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ACC releases details on Shaw F-16 crash
F-16.net ^ | July 25, 2006 | Mike Kopack

Posted on 08/03/2006 7:06:12 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

July 25, 2006 (by Mike Kopack) - An F-16CJ pilot ejected from his aircraft over the Atlantic Ocean Apr. 5, 2006 after experiencing a Gravity-Induced Loss of Consciousness and awaking to find his aircraft in an unrecoverable dive, according to an Air Combat Command report released two weeks ago.

The pilot suffered serious injuries during the high-speed ejection, which took place while the aircraft was traveling in excess of 750 miles per hour. The aircraft (#93-542), assigned to the 20th Fighter Wing, Shaw AFB, S.C., crashed into the ocean approximately 80 miles northeast of Charleston, S.C., and was destroyed. The cost of the aircraft loss is estimated at nearly $23 million.

At the time of the incident the pilot was performing a high-gravity maneuver during a Basic Fighter Maneuver training mission. The investigating officer concluded there was substantial evidence that physical fatigue from flying five high-G sorties in three days, an extended layoff from flying and the mental stress associated with his instructor pilot upgrade training were contributing factors to the pilot's loss of consciousness.

For more information, call the Air Combat Command Public Affairs office at (757) 764-5007 or e-mail acc.pam@langley.af.mil.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: eject; planecrash; shawafb
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Pretty scary.
1 posted on 08/03/2006 7:06:13 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Thank goodness he survived, his life is worth more than that aircraft.


2 posted on 08/03/2006 7:09:41 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Gravity hardly ever causes loss of conciousness. That would be inertia.


3 posted on 08/03/2006 7:20:26 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: Lessismore
No, that would be gravity. Inertia is static, Gravity is dynamic.
4 posted on 08/03/2006 7:22:57 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Gravity is the attractive force between two masses:

F = (G * M1 * M2) / ( d ^2)

Which masses were involved in this pilot losing conciousness?


5 posted on 08/03/2006 7:26:58 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: Rokke
Thoughts? Me? Glad he's alive, but WTF?
6 posted on 08/03/2006 7:27:03 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I'm surprised that he survived ejecting at over 750 MPH.


7 posted on 08/03/2006 7:27:46 PM PDT by Riptides
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To: Lessismore
The mass of his blood that left his brain and pooled in his lower extremities during high positive G maneuvers.
8 posted on 08/03/2006 7:29:13 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
The pilot suffered serious injuries during the high-speed ejection,

In all probability, serious injuries mean he won't fly again.

9 posted on 08/03/2006 7:30:10 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Pukin Dog

Yes, due to the inertia of the mass of blood which attempted to continue in a straight line instead of being accelerated along a curved line.


10 posted on 08/03/2006 7:33:13 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
The investigating officer concluded there was substantial evidence that physical fatigue from flying five high-G sorties in three days, an extended layoff from flying and the mental stress associated with his instructor pilot upgrade training were contributing factors to the pilot's loss of consciousness.

Sounds to me like he was pushed to press the envelope. Why?

11 posted on 08/03/2006 7:37:31 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

So the ACC has fighters now? The SEC's gonna be pissed.


12 posted on 08/03/2006 7:39:56 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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"Thoughts?"

I'd hate to punch out at 750 knots. But then, I'd hate to punch out at all. GLOC nabs the best of us. Looking over your shoulder at 9 g's is never good for your health. I can't say I miss that part of flying the Viper. And in the last year since I ended 15 years of continuous flying I've grown a full inch. Scary. I turn 40 this year and measure 6'7" for the first time in my life. I'm pretty sure I'm done with puberty. I guess my spinal cord is finally starting to recover.

13 posted on 08/03/2006 7:47:27 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: July 4th

"So the ACC has fighters now? The SEC's gonna be pissed."

...and the Big East will try to sue them again.


14 posted on 08/03/2006 7:49:04 PM PDT by Carolina_Thor (It's always better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.)
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To: Lessismore
I was writing a long drawn out explanation, then I thought, Why? I have no desire for a physics argument tonight.
15 posted on 08/03/2006 7:50:01 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

"No, that would be gravity. Inertia is static, Gravity is dynamic."

You misunderstand inertia. Inertia is when a mass resists changes in velocity (speed and direction). That doesn't mean it is only a static property, nor does it mean that it doesn't come into play in a dynamic system.


16 posted on 08/03/2006 7:50:20 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Rokke
My WTF is regarding judgment. The dude was trying to rate instructor. What is the first thing you want to know about him? If those reasons were good enough to LOC, where they not good enough to down one's self? I know, you don't want to look weak, but that's better than looking dead.

Now, I don't know about the efficacy of those reasons, but I wish they would have just answered like you did. Essentially: "It happens, get over it."

17 posted on 08/03/2006 7:53:37 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Kirkwood
Just to make a long story short, you have to take into account the fact that we are not talking about an object of constant mass. It is the difference in the various masses that caused the problem. i.e., the blood and its relationship to the pilot's brain. That is not a difference of inertia, but a difference in how the two sets of mass were effected by the change in direction. I hope that makes sense, because I have had too much beer tonight to be sure. Check with me in the morning.
18 posted on 08/03/2006 7:58:12 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

I thought you invest in SD real estate, you mean you do physics and drink bear too?

all at the same time?

somethin' gotta give..

Lurking'


19 posted on 08/03/2006 8:08:13 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98
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To: Pukin Dog
"If those reasons were good enough to LOC, where they not good enough to down one's self?"

The only thing that kept me from flying a sortie was the runs. Especially during an upgrade. And especially if it was an air to air sortie. But then, I'd always be a little more "gentle" if I wasn't feeling well. Funny thing was, as soon as the canopy went down I usually forgot all about not feeling well.

Just glad I never GLOC'd.

20 posted on 08/03/2006 8:14:53 PM PDT by Rokke
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