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Victor Davis Hanson: The Brink of Madness. A familiar place
NRO ^ | August 4, 2006 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 08/04/2006 5:44:47 AM PDT by Tolik

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To: Tolik

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81 posted on 08/04/2006 11:58:43 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: bitt; Tolik; devolve
Our present generation too is on the brink of moral insanity

- and a total lack of common sense or logic. It boggles the mind and is frightening to watch unfold.

82 posted on 08/04/2006 12:08:30 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Personal Responsibility
Thank god for VDH. He says everything that rattles around in my head but in coherent, persuasive fashion. This article was fantastic!

I agree.

83 posted on 08/04/2006 12:20:48 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: Tolik
The left doesn't embrace moral equivalence. They embrace depravity.
84 posted on 08/04/2006 12:44:12 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: Matchett-PI

I notice that in reply to a liberal caller (who claimed to be conservative) Rush read an excerpt from this very same article by Hansen on today's show...he sounded ticked, too.


85 posted on 08/04/2006 1:20:43 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: Matchett-PI

Forgot to thank you for the links.
Thanks.


86 posted on 08/04/2006 1:21:20 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: Sam Cree

You're welcome. Rush was waiting for just the right call to come in in order to introduce the Hanson article. I loved it. :)


87 posted on 08/04/2006 1:30:22 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: Matchett-PI

Rush himself can be extremely eloquent, IMO, especially when talking about freedom. But I also think he's been very effective in pointing out the idiocy of all this moral equivalency stuff that the Left is pushing. He has his faults, but I have just the highest opinion of the guy.


88 posted on 08/04/2006 1:36:18 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: Tolik

Anyone who follows the great VDH, at least since the WOT, can see that this brillant piece is probably as close as he can come to a "rant." Remember his knife-cutting treatises on intervention in Iraq -- cool, sober, deliberate?
My point is that our best and brightest are now getting obviously quite alarmed. This scares me and I believe we are passing the point where things will have to get much worse, before they start to get better. Please, some cool headed Freeper chime in and keep me from going to the mattresses.


89 posted on 08/04/2006 2:10:10 PM PDT by Harrius Magnus (Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment!)
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To: All

The left always makes moral equivalence part of their schtick. Criminal marauder and victim, Jew and Arab, terrorist and terrorized. They see no moral difference. But express what they consider "hate," dont pay your taxes, or drive after a couple of beers and then they have no trouble punishing you.


90 posted on 08/04/2006 2:27:35 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: maine-iac7
"We let them back into power at our peril."

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Reiterated to all of you disgruntled Freepers who plan to sit out the next election or vote out of anger rather than reason. IMO, all issues take a back seat to the Life or Death issue of Leftists retaking our country at such a crucial point in history, with the Islamonazi horde at the door.
91 posted on 08/04/2006 2:27:43 PM PDT by Harrius Magnus (Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment!)
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To: Harrius Magnus

I think the world is about to experience a huge outbreak of democracy and freedom and that the light of day will expose the tyrants, dictators, and Old world as the collectivist nothings that they are.

I believe Israel will win the war, Democracy will be built in Lebanon and Iraq. The people of the Middle east, China, North Korea, and blessedly yes....CUBA... will overthrow the tyrants and a lasting great peace will settle on the world.

These birth pangs of freedom are not easy, and as the soldiers labor for the birth of freedom in those places where tyranny has reined....the people of those countries will look back and say "yes, it was worth the fight"

As for us here in America, I continue to pray. Just pray for the families of those who have died. Pray for the soldiers. Pray for president Bush, and all of the leaders who are working for democracy.

I don't think you need to go to the mattresses....just believe that the truth will set the nations free. VDH is great, but he sometimes gets lost because he listens too much to the very loud voices. If you hadn't noticed, some very stupid people have access to some very loud Media.

What those people need to do is just stop speaking for a time....just long enough to take a deep breath and then really ponder what they are saying. Defending terrorists should be indefensible. Yet some of the LOUDEST people in our world are doing just that. In the end the only people they will end up hurting is themselves and their own credibility. Those who have an honest heart will know the truth.

Don't mistake the big mouths in our society with the truth.

The truth is...most people want to be free.

I believe things will quiet down soon. We may have some lunatic set off a nuke or two or ten, and for a time many in our world will believe that life as we know it has come to an end.

But will it? I don't think so. Daily habits will kick in and the world will rev back up and life will go on.

Jenny Hatch


92 posted on 08/04/2006 2:33:20 PM PDT by Jenny Hatch (Mommy Blogger)
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To: Jenny Hatch

Jenny Hatch

Wise words. Thank you.


93 posted on 08/04/2006 2:38:22 PM PDT by Harrius Magnus (Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment!)
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To: Tolik

BTTT!


94 posted on 08/04/2006 4:36:53 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (I criticize everyone... and then breath some radioactive fire and stomp on things.)
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To: Tolik; SJackson; yonif; Simcha7; American in Israel; Slings and Arrows; judicial meanz; ...
Victor Davis Hansen exposes the roots of Western moral decadence which is so pristinely modeled in contemporary liberalism and their mob gang, the Democrats. Until liberalism is completely marginalized and America experiences a new reawakening, this idiocy of glad-handing Islam—and the war—will continue.

Thank God for Free Republic and the men and women who frequent her digital halls.





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95 posted on 08/04/2006 6:35:36 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Tolik

Nails it!


96 posted on 08/04/2006 9:01:31 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Tolik

I believe this would significantly improve our strategic position in the War on Terror.

We should destroy the Iranian oil industry. By Bombing all oil transportation facilities, pipelines, storage tanks, tanker trucks, rolling stock, refinery’s etc… we can cripple the funding of numerous terrorist organizations, Hezbollah, Hama’s, Sadr’s militia, Syria, as well as make it more difficult for Iran to buy missiles and such from North Korea, China, and Russia.
It would remove Iran’s threat that if we attack they will shut off the oil. Making the threat ridiculous and demonstrating that they are a single product state and without oil, and no other product that the world wants, they are nothing. Additionally, by declaring that we will destroy any reconstituting oil industry as long as the Mullacracy remains in charge, we can focus the Iranian’s blame for the situation, on the Theocracy and their support of Terrorism.
This will also bring home to all the other oil producing countries like Venezuela, Libya, Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States, etc… that they are very vulnerable to the same tactic.
In addition, this will gain us time for the Iraqi’s to stand on their own, and free up troops we would need if we have to go into Iran, North Korea or somewhere else.
Sure the price of gas will rise, but this will also demonstrate to the world that the USA is not in Iraq for the Oil, and the onus can be shifted on to the Democrats for not allowing more domestic production.
“It’s not the control of the spice but the power to destroy the spice that is the real power.”
It has recently been said that the nuclear production facilities in Iran are so deep underground that we can’t reach them with conventional weapons. Perhaps so, but maybe we can starve those facilities of funds. Nuclear weapons are terribly expensive to build, and if Iran now needs all its money to repair vital life supporting infrastructure, it may have to slow or stop its attempt to build an atomic bomb.
Finally, Iran is a state sponsor of Terrorists, it must be punished, and it must be seen to be punished. Iran’s continued sponsorship of terror is a slap in America’s and President Bush’s face, and it must be answered.
The following was written in response to an objection I received about having to pay more for fuel if this strategy was followed.
I think you are overly concerned about the economic considerations, and not concerned enough about the need to prosecute the War on Terror to the utmost.
1. The US has a full Strategic Petroleum Reserve of 700 million Barrels, and we aren't the only nation with an SPR. What good is it if you never use it? The average price paid on that 700 million barrels was $27, so the nation would actually make a profit selling it now.
2. The only reason the US isn't energy independent now is because of political factors. 2 Trillion Barrels of oil in oil shale (see www.oiltechinc.com). Any organic matter can be turned into fuel (see www.powerenergy.com). The US would and should be using much more Nuclear power if it wasn't for the Ecofreaks. There are also many areas in the US that are now off limits to drilling. All it takes is the political will to develop all of these. Higher fuel prices will provide that political pressure.
3. Iran is using diplomatic processes, just like the Nazi's before them. Talking is a waste of our time.
4. Iran subsidizes gas at $.10 a gallon, so by destroying the Iranian oil industry not only do we instantly remove 20% of their GDP. We put them all on foot, and in the dark.
5. The mullahs want to take their world back to the 7th century, we should assist them.


97 posted on 08/04/2006 9:32:27 PM PDT by Eagle74 (From time to time the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots)
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


98 posted on 08/04/2006 9:55:48 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: TASMANIANRED

---The left doesn't embrace moral equivalence. They embrace depravity.---

Equivalence is depravity.


99 posted on 08/05/2006 10:57:35 AM PDT by claudiustg (Equivalence is depravity.)
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To: Tolik

Later read... I'll have to give up sleeping.


100 posted on 08/08/2006 11:24:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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