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Differences Between U.S. and France Hobbling UN
Globe and Mail ^ | August 4, 2006 | Patrick Martin

Posted on 08/04/2006 10:49:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

The French approach closely approximates the so-called "seven points" put forward last week by Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora. He, too, called for a ceasefire, or a cessation of hostilities, before anything else, and he did not call for the implementation of UN Resolution 1559, the 2004 resolution that orders the disbanding and disarming of all militias in Lebanon, including Hezbollah's. Significantly, the current French proposal does not include reference to Resolution 1559 either. Instead, both Mr. Siniora and France rely on the Taif Agreement as the basis for ordering Hezbollah's disarming. The 1989 agreement, reached with the assistance of several Arab countries, brought an end to Lebanon's bloody 15-year civil war... Taif also calls for the disbanding and disarming of all militias in Lebanon... the call for militias to disarm was based on the principle of no victor, no vanquished... Wasn't Hezbollah supposed to hand in its weapons, too? "They were given special dispensation as a resistance force," said Mr. Hoss. "I couldn't have abolished Hezbollah [in 1990] with Israel inside the country." ...Israeli analysts say there is another big difference between the French and U.S. positions. In order to give the international force the power of disarmament, the UN resolution may be based on Article 7 of the UN Charter. "This may make it very difficult for Israel to defend itself [after a ceasefire], even if it argues self-defence," noted Zeev Schiff in Haaretz yesterday. "Under Article 7, Israel will be unable to carry out aerial reconnaissance missions in order to identify possible Hezbollah preparations for an offensive."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; france; iran; lebanon; syria; wot
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See, if only Israel had unconditionally withdrawn in 1990, Hizbollah would have turned in all their arms, and we wouldn't be in this mess now. It's all Israel's fault. Now, here's a picture of the bridge we have for sale to replace that one Israel knocked out yesterday...
Oh, almost forgot, BARF ALERT.
1 posted on 08/04/2006 10:49:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: Berosus; Cincinatus' Wife; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; FairOpinion; ...

...and goodnight, all.


2 posted on 08/04/2006 10:49:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, July 27, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

U.S.=superpower
France= superpower 200 years ago


3 posted on 08/04/2006 10:52:13 PM PDT by spyone
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To: SunkenCiv

I think France wants to give up the Golan Heights or Shaba Farms or something to Syria.


4 posted on 08/04/2006 10:52:40 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: SunkenCiv
This

or this


5 posted on 08/04/2006 10:58:21 PM PDT by pissant
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To: spyone

France was never an actual superpower. They were a world power, but they were always a notch or two below the Brits.

The only two real 'superpowers' in the 1600-1800 timeframe were Britain and Spain, IMHO.


6 posted on 08/04/2006 10:58:22 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: spyone

more like France=Super Ego.....


7 posted on 08/04/2006 10:58:38 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: Spktyr

.I would concur.....they had the better Navies, and that is what you needed most back then.....


8 posted on 08/04/2006 11:00:23 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: SunkenCiv

July 31, 2006
At the news conference held in Beirut, French Foreign Minister Phillippe Douste-Blazy praised Iran as a “stabilizing force in the Middle East.” Douste-Blazy told reporters that Iran "is an outstanding country with great people and an honorable civilization. It has a crucial role in the region.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1676796/posts


9 posted on 08/04/2006 11:02:11 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: pissant

lol... snail on a scooter... thats good.


10 posted on 08/04/2006 11:02:14 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: SunkenCiv

It isn't France or the USA that is hobbling the UN, but it's China and Russia with the 160 or so other "tin-slop-jar" dictatorships that make up the membership of the UN.

UN OUT OF THE US, US OUT OF THE UN!


11 posted on 08/04/2006 11:05:29 PM PDT by 308MBR ( "She pulled up her petticoat, and I pulled out for Tulsa!" Abstinence training from Bob Wills.)
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To: 308MBR

..plus all the little knuckle dragging dictators and corrupt bas**rds from those little Africa nations and third world countries......


12 posted on 08/04/2006 11:08:54 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: NorCalRepub
The only time France ever made a real showing was when a Corsican was running the place. Other than that they have always been second best. Second best navy (Britain), Second best army (Prussia/Germany), second best overseas colonies (Spain/Britain), second best technology (USA), and second best art (Italians). Heck I would even give them second best food (Italians again). They are second rate, second class and seconds from being overrun by their own Muslim immigrants.
13 posted on 08/04/2006 11:09:05 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: SunkenCiv

More like France and the UN teaming up to try to hobble the US.


14 posted on 08/04/2006 11:09:39 PM PDT by marsh_of_mists
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To: GonzoGOP

...don't forget second best wine (Calif).....*wink*


15 posted on 08/04/2006 11:10:40 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: NorCalRepub

God I can't believe I forgot that, especially as they have been my favorites for some time. Of course I hardly have a cultured taste in wines. but I have never been impressed by the products of the French vineyards. French Champagne is quite another matter. Its just that the ones I like I can't afford.


16 posted on 08/04/2006 11:17:37 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: GonzoGOP

.....you and me both


17 posted on 08/04/2006 11:21:34 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: Spktyr

Respectfully disagree. France was a superpower during Napoleon. 15 years. They will never let you forget it. It earned them a security council seat which they don't deserve.


18 posted on 08/04/2006 11:50:16 PM PDT by spyone
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To: spyone

1600-1800, remember?

Napoleon is post-1806. Also, France was as much a "superpower" under Napoleon as Japan was in WW2 - heavy hitter, took a lot of territory, but eventually eradicated by the *real* superpower(s).


19 posted on 08/05/2006 12:27:24 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: GeronL

Actually, Lebanon is making a claim for Shebaa Farms to be reurned to Lebanon. Syria and Lebanon both claim the small area between the Lebanese village of Shebaa and a nearby Druze village in the Golan Heights.

Syria and Lebanon both claimed the area without conflict based on various claims(the inhabitants of the 14 farms considered themselves Lebanese, but a French demarcation from the 20s or 30s made it officially Syrian and thus part of the Golan Heights awarded to Israel as rightfully occupied security buffer zone.

Hezbollah claims the annexation of Shebaa Farms to be justification for their continuing hostilities and preparation for and provokation of this current war(which is bull$#!+ of course b/c they fully consider all of Israel to be either Lebanon or Palestine.)

I'm not sure how the dueling Syrian and Lebanese claims affect the Hezbollah-Syria axis.


20 posted on 08/05/2006 3:16:11 AM PDT by LucidListless
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