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Lifeguard refuses to resuscitate 3-year-old (Saved by woman on scene)
Scotto Show - WRKO ^ | 8/7/06 | Scotto

Posted on 08/07/2006 5:16:16 AM PDT by Aquinasfan

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To: Aquinasfan
The main reason for using the mouthpiece is that people have a tendency to vomit when there are resuscitated. There is a one way valve in the mouth piece that closes when you are not blowing into it. In CPR classes they train you so that if a mouth piece is not available you cover the mouth with a Teeshirt or some other type of cloth. You can easily blow through the cloth.
61 posted on 08/07/2006 6:56:33 AM PDT by lonerepubinma
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Well, he's not "required" to work as a "lifeguard," either.

In an age where being married four times and divorced thrice is not a scandal leading to social ostracizing , one of the things which has been lost is the sense of duty and the consequent prudential thinking through one's choices. It shouldn't have been a surprise to the lifeguards that they might be called upon to do CPR with Mouth to Mouth resuscitation as part of it. The time to get prepared was the first day on the job, and every day they should have checked their gear the way a cop checks (or, at least, SHOULD check) his duty rig.

A cop who suddenly discovers that his job is dangerous is laughable. A lifeguard to whom it is news that he might be called upon to do mouth to mouth rescue breathing is a fool, and so are his trainers, certifiers, and employers.

I would operate on the assumption that I might catch some dread disease. So I would be prepared with the equipment to minimize that risk.

62 posted on 08/07/2006 6:57:59 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (If the gates of Hell prevail against it, it probably never was a church anyway.)
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To: lonerepubinma
In CPR classes they train you so that if a mouth piece is not available you cover the mouth with a Teeshirt or some other type of cloth. You can easily blow through the cloth.

Thanks for the info.

63 posted on 08/07/2006 6:59:58 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: A. Pole

Your "reasoning" on this incident is ludicrous.


64 posted on 08/07/2006 7:04:54 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: A. Pole

Unless Massachusetts has enacted some statutes changing the common law, this lifeguard absolutely can be prosecuted for this.


65 posted on 08/07/2006 7:07:56 AM PDT by LanPB01
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To: FarmerW

READ THE PIECE, AND YEP! A LAWSUIT LOOMS. SAYS THE LIFEGUARDS (PLURAL) REFUSED BECAUSE NO MOUTHPIECE. THEY DIDN'T COME ON DUTY WITHOUT THEIR BATHING SUIT; WHY THE H#LL WOULD THEY NOT HAVE A MOUTHPIECE--LIFEGUARDS ARE HIRED TO PULL PEOPLE OUT AND GIVE CPR.

VAUDINE


66 posted on 08/07/2006 7:11:30 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: Aquinasfan

I bet this "lifeguard" barely knows how to swim.


67 posted on 08/07/2006 7:14:01 AM PDT by BadAndy ("Loud mouth internet Rambo")
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To: cyclotic

How old is the, uh, lifeguard?


68 posted on 08/07/2006 7:14:28 AM PDT by Loud Mime ("Countdown": A documentary about Keith Olbermann's dwindling IQ.....)
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To: LanPB01
Unless Massachusetts has enacted some statutes changing the common law, this lifeguard absolutely can be prosecuted for this.

Only if the mouthpiece were available. I know it.

69 posted on 08/07/2006 7:18:44 AM PDT by A. Pole (Prophet Ezekiel: "If he has exacted usury [...] He shall surely die; His blood shall be upon him.")
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To: cajungirl
That's no excuse.

Does it say the mother was there?

Whether she was or not doesn't mean she knew CPR...

..besides, if she were a negligent mom, more the reason for this lifeguard to do his duty.

This is a little kid....only 3!

70 posted on 08/07/2006 7:19:34 AM PDT by Guenevere (Israel, our friend and ally.....God bless her.)
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To: A. Pole
Neither lifeguards nor medical personnel are required to risk infection.

Heh. My s-i-l possibly saved the life of a man who attempted suicide a couple of weeks ago. He shot himself(or so it seems) while sitting in his lounge chair. My s-i-l was in her apt. and heard her elderly neighbor yelling. She lives right outside Jackson MS, and was concerned that the thugs who had beaten an old lady senseless had moved out into the burbs. She ran out, then heard a young woman yelling from an upstairs balcony that her husband had shot himself.

S-i-l went running up, grabbed some towels and held them on the wound. While she was doing this, he slumped over, and she saw the exit wound. She had towels on both wounds when the PD came running in, guns drawn. They asked if she was a 'medical', and as she recounts, the first thing that came into her mind was "no, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.". Fortunately for her, she didn't say it; it's likely the cops would not have been in the frame of mind for a joke.

To make a short story long, she had been having trouble with some outbreaks on her hands, and there were places of raw skin. The EMTs gave her something to wash them, but she got tested for the HEPs and HIV a couple of days later. She apparently can't compel blood tests from the guy, and she hasn't been able to get any information about him because of privacy laws.

Yes, she realized later that it was a stupid thing to do, to run IN the direction of a discharged weapon, then hold some bloody guy with her bare hands, but we're awful proud of her. If he lived, it was likely because of her willingness to do what she did.

71 posted on 08/07/2006 7:21:34 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: fortheDeclaration

Things like this always happen in Mass.


72 posted on 08/07/2006 7:24:41 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: Mad Dawg
A cop who suddenly discovers that his job is dangerous is laughable. A lifeguard to whom it is news that he might be called upon to do mouth to mouth rescue breathing is a fool, and so are his trainers, certifiers, and employers.

During the CPR training lifeguards are told that they need to have mouthpiece to do CPR. If they do not have it is to their personal discretion and risk if they do it. You cannot put them on the same level as career police officers.

Just remember that many lifeguards are just high school kids and in addition such type of odd job in most cases does not provide even health insurance. (to pay for possible infection treatment).

If you make the lifeguard position too demanding and penalizing you will not have ANY lifeguards at all with the exception of few masochistic fools.

73 posted on 08/07/2006 7:25:33 AM PDT by A. Pole (Prophet Ezekiel: "If he has exacted usury [...] He shall surely die; His blood shall be upon him.")
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To: A. Pole
If you make the lifeguard position too demanding and penalizing you will not have ANY lifeguards at all

Then it is better to save plenty of money by posting "No Lifeguard On Duty" signs, than to give the public a false sense of security wherein paid lifeguards might actually have to live up to their title.

74 posted on 08/07/2006 7:33:37 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Hurricane season 2006 - Be prepared and have a plan)
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To: SuziQ
To make a short story long, she had been having trouble with some outbreaks on her hands, and there were places of raw skin. The EMTs gave her something to wash them, but she got tested for the HEPs and HIV a couple of days later. She apparently can't compel blood tests from the guy, and she hasn't been able to get any information about him because of privacy laws.

God bless your sister in law. I cannot imagine allowing someone who helped save my life to worry over health issues because I refuse to share medical information. I hope everything works out ok for her.

I've never been in this situation, but I'd like to think that I would help first and deal with consequences, if necessary, later.

75 posted on 08/07/2006 7:35:45 AM PDT by Dianna
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To: lonerepubinma
if a mouth piece is not available you cover the mouth with a Teeshirt or some other type of cloth. You can easily blow through the cloth.

Wow! This is the best piece of advice I ahev seen for a while. Thank you!

76 posted on 08/07/2006 7:46:22 AM PDT by A. Pole (Prophet Ezekiel: "If he has exacted usury [...] He shall surely die; His blood shall be upon him.")
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To: NautiNurse
Then it is better to save plenty of money by posting "No Lifeguard On Duty" signs, than to give the public a false sense of security wherein paid lifeguards might actually have to live up to their title.

The main function of lifeguards is to protect people from getting drown in the water. Providing emergency health care is often well above the head of these high school kids (even if they watch the CPR video once or twice). Their primary skill is good swimming.

77 posted on 08/07/2006 7:50:18 AM PDT by A. Pole (Prophet Ezekiel: "If he has exacted usury [...] He shall surely die; His blood shall be upon him.")
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To: A. Pole
The main function of lifeguards is to protect people from getting drown in the water.

They failed that responsibility too. If the story is accurate, the little boy was carried all the way to the lifeguard stand, rather than the lifeguard(s) getting off their duffs to meet the water rescuer halfway.

78 posted on 08/07/2006 8:25:13 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Hurricane season 2006 - Be prepared and have a plan)
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To: neutrino
I certainly wouldn't consider doing CPR on an unknown individual without a mouthpiece. Probably not with one, either.

Something tells me that when push came to shove, decency would take over, and you would do what was necessary to save a life. If not, and these words reflect your true beliefs and sentiments, the English language lacks the ability to adequately describe your worthlessness as a person.

79 posted on 08/07/2006 8:25:40 AM PDT by Minn
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To: BadAndy

"I'll bet he doesn't wear a mouthpiece when he makes out with his girlfriend."

Whats to say he has a "Girl" friend and not a "boy" friend?

Fire the twit.


80 posted on 08/07/2006 9:06:30 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Time to eradicated islambs and mooselimbs! GO PTSC)
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