Skip to comments.Murtha is assailed for daring to speak out
Posted on 08/09/2006 4:06:54 PM PDT by Coop
John Murtha... is taking obscene criticism from the right for daring to point out that the Bush administration has given our troops an all-but-impossible job in Iraq.
The 17-term congressman had already inflamed the Swift Boat crowd last year by calling for a rapid withdrawal of U.S. forces.
The fallout reached a ridiculous low point last fall when a Republican congresswoman who'd never been within several time zones of a battlefield called Murtha, winner of two Purple Hearts, a coward on the House floor. [Coop note: Any bets as to how close any of these editors ever came to a battlefield?]
Now, incredibly, the partisan rhetoric is even more vile. Murtha is being called a traitor and a "fifth columnist" because he responded to reports of a possible massacre in Haditha, Iraq, by lamenting that Marines shot Iraqi civilians "in cold blood."
The descriptions of what happened in Haditha on Nov. 19, 2005, are among the ugliest to come out of the war. The Marines said initially that civilians were killed in crossfire with insurgents after a bomb killed a Marine. A military probe since then has amassed evidence that Marines may have deliberately shot and killed 24 civilians, including children, in a house-to-house search, and that attempts were made to cover up the incident. [Coop note: A military probe, which you're apparently so fond of, has already concluded there was no cover up. Get up to date... on a whole host of issues!]
Murtha's point was that such incidents are an inevitable result of leaving troops too long in the middle of an emerging civil war with no clear mission.
That's not the talk of a traitor... A country that can't handle that kind of debate is a country that can't handle democracy.
(Excerpt) Read more at centredaily.com ...
And pay attention boys and girls! Calling Marines "cold blooded killers" is healthy debate. Calling that reckless accuser "a traitor" is obscene. The elites have spoken!
It seems to me that the media is in overdrive trying to protect Murtha's sorry butt. Why? They keep insisting he's not in any re-election trouble. ;-)
These wimpy pro-Murtha editorials are the equivalent of armpit stains during a public speaking engagement.
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Wow, now finally the MSM is shovelling dirt on Murtha as fast as they can to cover up his treason....ain't gonna work, the horse ran out of the barn WAY back.
They say that like it's a good thing...
We seem to be missing a Barf Alert.
It'll work if he's re-elected. Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter, nor the ability for "outraged" conservatives to do nothing.
More like a whining sissy alert.
It's the first word of the title - what more do you want?!? ;-)
For the second time today I stand corrected (LOL).
Hopefully he will NOT be elected to an eighteenth term!!
Good grief. Like that is a good thing!
The old double standard free speech; I am free to say what I want ,but, you can't if you disagree. Works well for 3 year olds and rats.
Oh spare us. It's not Murtha speaking out that is the problem. It's not as if he's the only one dissenting on Iraq. It's the irresponsible way in which he's gone about it, throwing about wild charges, making bizarre assertions and his ugly and partisan venom that has made Murtha a particularized target of conservatives. If just simple disagreement over the war were all that got under our skin, we conservatives would have to make it a full time job going after all the carpers.
No, it is not disagreement we have a problem with but the DISAGREEABLE nature of the dissent coming from rank partisan hacks like Murtha. Constructive criticism of our government is always welcome and a tradition of American democracy. Destructive criticism is in quite another league. It is precisely this kind of venomous and slanderous criticism destructive of our national leadership and of our military, like claiming the president lied to get us into a war or pronouncing guilt on Marines involved in Haditha before all the facts are knows is why Murtha finds himself coming under the gun.
And by the way, as the MSM defends the right of Murtha to attack the war effort, then they damned well better respect our right to attack the irresponsible and divisive way he's gone about it.
I love the way the author impugns the Republican congresswomen who spoke up about the policy Murtha was espousing. If I recall the circumstances, she never said Murtha was a coward, she was quoting a Marine constituent who said that cowards cut and run and Marines never did. Ever since then she has been villified as though she were personally attacking Murtha. It's an example of the way the media and left twist words to suit their purposes.
If you call treason, "speaking out", yes, he was assailed! And I'm so happy about.
I do not listen to Murtha, much like would not listen to any other gibbering senile old coot.
It seems the Central Daily/Phil. Enquirer doesn't let the truth stand in their way for their editorials. Either that or they're just too lazy and inept to bother to get the truth. I believe it's all of the above.
Support Diana Irey and help retire the despicable Murtha.
Murtha is free to speak and those who oppose the content of his speech are free to work to unelect him. He will still be able to speak out as much as he wants. He just won"t be in Congress. No big deal.
Is that a real shirt and if it is, where can I get one!???
Oh please, atrocities happen in all wars of all types. They happened in World War II, Korea, Vietnam, etc. as well. It's nothing about the nature of this conflict that caused this. And it's not because it's a "civil war" which it's not. It's human nature that things like this occassionally occur in all conflicts among all armies.
And how do you know these men weren't clear on the mission? Most I've heard speak were entirely clear. That writer and Murtha are too dim or decieved to get it doesn't mean are military men and women don't.
And military units have seen far more battles and fighting than this one in the wars America has fought and not given in to savagery. So to claim it is because of their length of service in what is basically a low level conflict is ludicrious at best. Indeed, instead of looking to blame war policy for this, why not blame the terrorists who hide among civilians and use sissified stand off tactics to try to CAUSE THESE KINDS OF INCIDENTS instead of just looking as always to blame the administration. No, the terrorists are "freedom fighters" undeserving of any criticism, right?
And by the way, when this incident is alleged to have occured in 2004, there was nothing like the sectarian violence this moron labels as "civil war," so his claim this happened because of a "civil war" is sheer nonsense. But leave it to a media parasite to have to fit in all their favorite buzzwords into the slop they write, regardless of accuracy. And in the case, he makes these assertions regardless of their being no indictments nor findings of wrongdoing.
The editorial "staph" infection approves of Murtha.
So does Sadaaamn Hussein and Hugo "el burro" Chavez and Cindy "LOLA" Sheehan.
It don't matter how much paint and perfume you put on a pile of poop, it is still an eyesore and stinks. The MSM covering for him are the flies relishing it nonetheless
Well .. HE WAS SIMPLY LYING!
He said he had been briefed on May 17 - but he was NOT BRIEFED UNTIL 7/24 or later. Therefore, he had no info .. and he was just blowing off steam - to make a name for himself.
And besides .. he did the same thing to Clinton over Somalia and - of course - Clinton backed down and withdrew our troops. That act convinced Osama America was weak and if there were enough casualties .. we would "cut and run".
As far as I'm concerned Murtha is to blame for 9/11.
Isn't that way too long "time in grade" not to have been forcibly retired?
You're exactly right. One might call the way the media and Democrats handled that... OBSCENE.
Pay very close attention to Murtha's verbal vomit, and especially pay attention to what his opponent, Diana Irey, is saying.
Conceptually, perhaps. But that's not the way I read this editorial, or most Dem talking points.
Haditha occurred in Nov 05
Arrest the editorial staff for Treason.
They do not understand what debate means and what Treason means. They need a lesson in basic civics.
Whenever the demo/lib/socialist/commie/media elite/globalist/America haters respond like this, you KNOW you've stung 'em.
Somebody from the main stream media complaining that conservatives don't understand what debate and democracy is about but apparently they do. Now that's REALLY funny !!!
B T T T
Who am I... and WHY am I HERE???
For that matter... where the hell's here and what's up with this basket???
|Murtha's "Cut & Run" Comments on Iraq:
"there's no progress at all"
"it's worse than it was prewar"
"we should immediatley redeploy"
"War cannot be won on the ground"
"I have said it's a civil war"
"We cannot win this militarily. Our tactics themselves keep us from winning,"
|Murtha's Comments on our Troops:
"Would you join (the military) today?," he was asked in an interview. "No," replied Murtha
"And I think you're saying the average guy out there who's considering recruitment is justified in saying 'I don't want to serve'," the interviewer continued. "Exactly right," said Murtha
"we have become a catalyst for violence" in Iraq
Marines "killed innocent civilians in cold blood." at Haditha
"I will not excuse murder, and this is what happened"
"This is worse than Abu Ghraib"
"Hopefully, this is an isolated incident. But we're supposed to be selling ideas of America, ideals of America, and we're losing that war."
"These kind of things have to be brought out immediately," he told "This Week," "because if the Marines got away with it, other Marines might think it's okay."
"What they're saying to me is we're stretching the military too thin. The army is broken, and we couldn't deploy to a second front if we wanted to."
"The troops don't know what to do. They don't have the direction they need in order to supervise the prisoners,"
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They want to depose me, a seventeen-term Congressman. Is that even constitutional?
>>>>As far as I'm concerned Murtha is to blame for 9/11.
And the funding of Wilson's War.
"It seems to me that the media is in overdrive trying to protect Murtha's sorry butt. Why? They keep insisting he's not in any re-election trouble. ;-)"
The Philly Enquirer?? You mean that big city clear at the other end of the state? Good grief! *Someone* is REALLY pulling out all the stops. In fact, for the Enquirer to acknowledge that there is "life" west of Philly must have taken some doing. ;)
CMU and DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) funding.
It looks like a real shirt, but I do not have a source personally.
Maybe some here may have a link to a source ?
Otherwise, you could visit a local t-shirt store as they may be able to re-produce it.