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Seeing Through The Fog Of War (The Soon To Be Realized Well-Kept Israeli Victory Secret Alert)
Frontpagemag.com ^ | 08/10/06 | Kenneth Timmerman

Posted on 08/10/2006 5:03:24 AM PDT by goldstategop

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Kenneth Timmerman cuts through the "fog of war" to reveal the astonishing details of Israel's soon to be realized secret well-kept victory. In brief, Hezbollah has been cut down to size, Iran's imperial ambitions in the Middle East has been set back and the Revolutionary Guard Corps of the regime has been bested on the battlefield. Iran has not only lost the means to intimidate Israel, it faces the ouster of its Hezbollah proxy from southern Lebanon and its being stripped of its armament store. There goes the mullahs' dreams of a worldwide jihad. And Israel's victory not only restores the Jewish State's deterrent power; it turns world attention back to Iran's nuclear program. It hasn't played out the way Ahmedinejad, the mullahs and Nasrallah thought it would - they're the ones after all, who have sued for peace in the councils of international diplomacy. For all that, Israel has resisted from gloating. It will take time for the size of Iran's defeat to sink in - and hopefully, that will change the Middle East for the better and put paid to the Iranian mullahs' dreams of wiping the Jewish State off the map.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)

1 posted on 08/10/2006 5:03:25 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
And yet just minutes ago I read a post on another thread by someoen saying President Bush should stop holding Israel back from what it's got to do...

Israel is winning, and Iran is losing--don't believe the negative hype from those you know better than to listen to.

2 posted on 08/10/2006 5:08:09 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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To: goldstategop
we have to make sure that our enemies will not be able to project the image that they are similarly successful.

As long as there is one left standing he will claim victory over the "evil" Israel.

3 posted on 08/10/2006 5:09:13 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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4 posted on 08/10/2006 5:12:40 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: goldstategop
And there's more. For one, the fog (in net) helps Israel, because in this effort Israel is united. It is the Iranians, the Syrians, the Arabs, the Europeans who grinding each other down. Jostling for power, for an edge in the ever-effervescent "future". And they bear grudges. Let them have more against each other. The start-stop, also in net, works the same way -- Israel is less negatively affected, each transition phase is another opportunity for the power-lusting amoung the enemy to make disrupting internal plays within the enemy's power structures . The fog, the start-stop, the jerky incrementalism -- all force the enemy's natural internal divisiveness to come to the fore, whereas the barrages of missiles the HEZ keep lobbing keep the *unifying* forces active is Israel.

The one unifying force for the enemey had been the media -- the propaganda images, causing the animal magnetism alignment of the compasses of hate amoung the street mobs.

But thanks to Free Republic, and follow-oners like Charles Johnson and the other good blogs -- the persian rug has been pulled out from under the media and it ain't flying no mo'.

And there's more.

5 posted on 08/10/2006 5:22:41 AM PDT by bvw
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Iran believed that Israel would collapse under a steady barrage of rocket-fire against its northern cities, towns and villages, and sue for peace.

It would be pointless to sue for peace with those who have your complete destruction as their sole purpose. Making glassed over parking lots of Iranian military bases and nuke facilities will help some, but Israel appears tolack the political will to make it so.

As far as the poor Lebanese are concerned, they stood by as the bunkers were built and the weapons moved into place. As did the U(seless) N(othings).

6 posted on 08/10/2006 5:29:59 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: goldstategop

bump for a more positive analysis of the Israel-Lebanon situation...


8 posted on 08/10/2006 5:43:20 AM PDT by RobFromGa (The FairTax cult is like Scientology, but without the movie stars)
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To: Darkwolf377

Thanks. This post does cut through the fog.


9 posted on 08/10/2006 5:47:18 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: goldstategop

Note to Democrats: Note that in Israel, the parties out of power like Bibe Netenyahu are not saying, "Olmert lied, Israelies died" they fight their wars as a nation united and let political differences go for the duration of the conflict."You Democrats might try this instead of political grandstanding.


10 posted on 08/10/2006 5:52:42 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: goldstategop
Until this war, Iran believed it could deter any Israeli military action against it – in Lebanon, or in Iran – by the threat of massive rocket attacks, essentially using Israel’s civilian population as hostages.

IMO, this is where they overplaed their hand. For years now, right here on FR as some people urged Israeli action against the hezbos, others would scream "But they CAN'T attack Hexbo! They have 12000 Katyushas pointing at Israel!" Israel finally said, show us what you got, and it ain't that much.

Next question is, what does Iran have? When will we call THEIR bluff? We'll learn something, maybe, on August 22.

11 posted on 08/10/2006 5:56:36 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Yalla yalla yalla, send you back to allah, screw you inshallah, along with hezballah.)
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To: goldstategop
This is a humiliation and a wake-up call the Revolutionary Guards have never endured.
Get used to it.
12 posted on 08/10/2006 6:00:55 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: JimRed

95% of the Israeli public support what is going on. If they were polled about taking this war to Syria and destroying Iran's ability to produce oil, I believe you would still be in the 80's.

Iran cannot touch Israel unless they go through Syria. It would make sense then to take out Syrias military infrastructure, plant a sub or two off Iran and declare to the UN that unless the hezzies leave now, Iran will be destroyed.

That is how you fight a war with your enemies.


13 posted on 08/10/2006 6:11:39 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Democrats - The reason we need term limits)
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To: goldstategop
We must engrave in the mind of the enemy that it has suffered a serious setback,” he said.

What better way to make this crystal clear than a public signing of the articles of unconditional surrender by Lebanon. That should be the goal.

14 posted on 08/10/2006 7:18:19 AM PDT by Voltage
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and declare to the UN that unless the hezzies leave now, Iran will be destroyed.



How about not giving them a choice, not being nice. How about...Finishing the job then....

"declare to the UN that the hezzies are dead now, Iran IS destroyed and DON'T BOTHER US AGAIN!".


15 posted on 08/10/2006 7:18:54 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ((FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.))
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To: goldstategop

I'd like to see Israel very publically taunt Amadinejad. They should be able to humiliate him into striking first. (Of course he may anyways on the 22nd)


16 posted on 08/10/2006 8:22:38 AM PDT by blasater1960 ( Ishmaelites...Still a wild-ass of a people....)
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To: TomasUSMC

Because it would be worse to embarrass the Iranians in the eyes of the Arab world then unite everyone against Israel.


17 posted on 08/10/2006 9:18:28 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Democrats - The reason we need term limits)
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To: goldstategop

The problem is defining victory and defeat. Victory is depriving the other side of what it wants. Since the Hezbos don't care how many people they lose and since any Israeli capture of territory is known to be temporary (in fact many reports indicate Israel has already agreed to the ridiculous concession of Sheba Farm) the fact that Israelis are advancing and killing Hezbos is not meaningful. The destruction of rockets is good but the Hezbos are still hitting Israel with hundreds of rockets and have largely wrecked Israel's economy. Unless the war ends with Hizballah largely destroyed and unable to threaten Israel I would not consider this a victory for Israel. The Israelis are not considering this a victory so far in that they are changing leadership in the middle of the war.


18 posted on 08/10/2006 10:27:17 AM PDT by Honestfreedom
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To: goldstategop
Revolutionary Guards officers, assigned to Hezbollah missile units in Lebanon, have been killed on the battlefield in Lebanon and sent back like dogs in Syrian caskets to Iran.

Damn good writing!!

19 posted on 08/10/2006 10:39:32 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (More and more churches are nada scriptura.)
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To: Voltage
What better way to make this crystal clear than a public signing of the articles of unconditional surrender by Lebanon. That should be the goal.

If Lebanon claims to be an innocent victim of the Hezb'Allah terrorists, I don't see Lebanon surrendering to Israel anytime soon.

20 posted on 08/10/2006 10:47:26 AM PDT by newgeezer ("Hezbollah" is a deception. As they are the 'party of Allah', the accurate rendering is "Hezb'Allah")
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