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Let Me Tell You About MY Abortion
CNSNEWS ^ | 8/9/06 | Pat Fish

Posted on 08/10/2006 4:13:23 PM PDT by Fishtalk

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To: Fishtalk
I threw Gregory over the bow just as soon as I could because, hey, he was a creep and a hypocrite.

As is every man who proclaims his concern for "a woman's right to her own body" when what he really cares about is his ability to use women's bodies without consequence.

Thanks for your story, and God bless you.

141 posted on 08/11/2006 8:46:28 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Diamond
And, in granting this unconscionable power, it has exposed many women to unjust and selfish demands from their husbands or other sexual partners.

I've said in a couple of Freepmails but let me state right out loud right here....there is NOTHING more demeaning to a woman than to be carted around like so much garbage, manipulated and cajoled and pressured, into killing an unborn baby.

I wanted to be loved and cherished. I wanted this man who I did love once upon a time, on some level, to hold me and promise to take care of me.

Paying the deductible on the health insurance and making all the arrangements, even that night spent with me out of so-called loving "concern", hey, it was a degrading experience I shall never forget.

These NAGS need to sit down and shut up. All they've done is promote the further sexual objectification of women, something that had been their mantra and rallying cry for so many years.

For how much of a sex object is a female when her body is used for male pleasure but discarded, stapled and folded when that same body does what it was designed to do: to bring forth life?

They make me so damn sick. Hey, if MS and Gloria would just keep their stupid mouths shut I might not be so mad. But to want women to stand up tall and say they are PROUD, PROUD I tell you, to have been so used by a male in their life that they loved enough to be initimate with....hey, I gotta shut up now I get so mad.

The utter arrogance of it makes me want to spit.

142 posted on 08/11/2006 9:10:05 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/ Search the word "kaitlyn" on FreeRepublic for my Blog posts)
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To: Fishtalk
So here I am responding to my own post but a thought passes my mind.

"Speaking truth to power", hey it's a huge liberal mantra.

So I speak truth to the power of those NAGS who have grown so darn powerful they've completely lost touch with the women they represent.

They don't have one damn clue.

143 posted on 08/11/2006 9:15:32 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/ Search the word "kaitlyn" on FreeRepublic for my Blog posts)
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To: Hildy
I AM PRO-CHOICE.

Then you should not be surprised if people get personal and accusatory with you.

I assume you would not advocate making the murder of say, grandmothers by their granddaughters legal. Now imagine someone shows up in here and says: "A long time ago I hired a gangster to kill my grandmother. It was very traumatic for me. It should be very difficult to hire gangsters for that purpose, but it should be legal". What would your personal reaction to that person be?

144 posted on 08/11/2006 9:47:05 AM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex

Absolutely one of the most ridiculous things I've read at FR...and that says ALOT.


145 posted on 08/11/2006 9:48:31 AM PDT by Hildy (To save us both time, assume I know everything...)
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To: Fishtalk
Thank you for posting this.

link to it

Do you imply that it is not to be re-posted FR style elsewhere? I want to post it on LibertyForum; it would get better readership if I post it in total. Of course, there will be an attribution to Pat Fish and FreeRepublic.

LibertyForum is a libertarian site in concept, and has no restriction of what is posted there. Some language can be bad and some content inacceptable in most other places.

I'll abide by your instruction.

146 posted on 08/11/2006 9:54:11 AM PDT by annalex
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To: grellis; stands2reason; Hildy; Fishtalk
the whole "baby killer" rhetoric does far more harm to the pro-life cause than it does good.

I think the distinction between those who had committed an abortion and are now pro-life and those who remain pro-abortion is very important here. It is un-Christian in the extreme to hurl invective at a murderer who repented of her act. It is important to convict an unrepentant murderer morally, especially since we cannot convict them juridically.

147 posted on 08/11/2006 9:58:50 AM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex
Let me clarify. Copy and paste at will if so desired.

I told my tale and I stand by it. I have been even more heartened by the many stories of other women who feel just as I do about their experiences. This is what bugs the hell out of me. The NAGS have it all wrong.

I don't care how the missive is shared is what I'm saying here. God I'd love for the feminazis to get clued into it.

Did I tell you they make me want to spit? But hey, am I bitter?

148 posted on 08/11/2006 10:00:33 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/ Search the word "kaitlyn" on FreeRepublic for my Blog posts)
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To: Hildy
one of the most ridiculous things

What did you find amusing?

149 posted on 08/11/2006 10:01:53 AM PDT by annalex
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To: Fishtalk

Thank you very much. Shortly I will. I will post a link here.


150 posted on 08/11/2006 10:03:24 AM PDT by annalex
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To: Hildy
they should be very, very difficult to get, parental notification a must, no government funding...but NOT illegal.

If they should be legal, why should they be difficult to get?

151 posted on 08/11/2006 10:11:17 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Moral Hazard

Moral Hazard, unless ther more details that you didn't make available to us, your "near the end of pregnancy" brother was an almost fully-developed viable baby, and the doctor would be ethically obliged to try to save both of them (your mother and your brother.) At that point, anemia or no anemia, there's no "advantage" in abortion over childbirth, Except you guarantee a dead baby.

I'm glad you're here, but there's no way you can say with confidence that you wouldn't have been, no matter what the other child's fate.


152 posted on 08/11/2006 10:11:53 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (L'Chaim.)
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To: Fishtalk
As for being pro-choice, hey, I suppose I'm pro-choice too.

After all you've been through, I'm surprized to see this.

Why would you support this "choice"? So that others might suffer as you did?

Having said that, I still offer my support and pray for your mind to be comforted.

153 posted on 08/11/2006 10:20:25 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning)
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To: Hildy
"If I were pro-life now, would that make what I did ok to you?"

Nothing makes murder "OK". But the difference between repentance and defiance is the difference between blessing and abomination.

154 posted on 08/11/2006 10:22:30 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (L'Chaim.)
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To: Fishtalk
Satellite thread on LibertyForum

Warning: rough language in the thread, which probably will get worse. I have quite a way with words over there myself, with apologies to the Gentle Freeper.

Let me use this opportunity to invite pro-lifers to LibertyForum, where more than a few important battles rage.

LibertyForum

155 posted on 08/11/2006 10:22:52 AM PDT by annalex
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To: ofwaihhbtn; Fishtalk
A long to see this on a banner:

Abortions will cease whem women refuse to submit.

(Several layers of meaning there.)

156 posted on 08/11/2006 10:24:02 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (L'Chaim.)
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To: Fishtalk

It was very brave of you to tell your story. Thank you for sharing.


157 posted on 08/11/2006 10:24:45 AM PDT by Kaylee Frye
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To: Hildy

Everyone's subjective story is different ---but the moral foulness of abortion is objectively the same.


158 posted on 08/11/2006 10:28:43 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (L'Chaim.)
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To: Fishtalk

Wanna see how your story would appear in Ms. Magazine?

His name was Gregory (NOT!) and he came into my life when my life had finally settled down after my sad divorce. I had a house, a result of my divorce settlement. Gregory had a job with a government contractor which paid well. We were both college educated, free, monetarily secure and we talked of a future together.

It's no mind how on earth I got pregnant because birth control pills were widely available. I don't know why I didn't use them but I did use some form of birth control. Which didn't work.

Because I was young and had no children as of yet, I wasn't paying attention to such as cycles. At some point the pregnancy advanced beyond the first trimester before even my naïve self got a clue. We didn't have pregnancy tests that could bought in the grocery thus it was a way bigger deal to check a possible pregnancy test than it is today. When I got the results [of my pregancy test] from the doctor I called Gregory right up and told him because why should only I know?

There was little time. On Wednesday I found out I was pregnant and on the following Friday I had an abortion. Gregory, sweet thing, had arranged the whole thing.

My company-paid health insurance covered the abortion but there was a $200 deductible. Which Gregory paid out his own pocket, driving over fifty miles to the hospital that would be doing the abortion because they wouldn't even schedule a room until the deductible was paid. Goodness Gregory even spent the night at my house the night before the abortion (no, we didn't live together) as he was "concerned" for me.

Why did Gregory and I choose to have an abortion? Frankly, I have no idea. We fought about politics all the time-I the liberal, he the "manly man" conservative. After the abortion, I threw Gregory over the bow just as soon as I could because, hey, he was a creep and a hypocrite.

As for me, I went on to get married and I did have a daughter. A daughter who would not be here if it were not for that abortion. Had I not had that abortion I would have been giving birth to Gregory's baby around the time my daughter was conceived. I've often justified that abortion by rationalizing that one child was lost but another child was born that wouldn't have been.

End.

Guaranteed it'll be edited like that, or something close. So, if you truly are opposed to abortion (as I believe you are), then I'd take this post into consideration before deciding to share your story. Because believe me, the leftists in the media use the "we reserve the right to edit letters for content and brevity" clause to their maximal benefit.


159 posted on 08/11/2006 10:39:24 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: annalex
I think the distinction between those who had committed an abortion and are now pro-life and those who remain pro-abortion is very important here. It is un-Christian in the extreme to hurl invective at a murderer who repented of her act. It is important to convict an unrepentant murderer morally, especially since we cannot convict them juridically.

Bingo. And your original post was absurd--but it was illustrating an absurd position (abortion is ok) by being absurd. As such, it was brilliantly effective.
160 posted on 08/11/2006 10:41:56 AM PDT by Antoninus (Public schools are the madrassas of the American Left. --Ann Coulter, Godless)
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