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Let Me Tell You About MY Abortion
CNSNEWS ^ | 8/9/06 | Pat Fish

Posted on 08/10/2006 4:13:23 PM PDT by Fishtalk

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To: Fishtalk
I'm not proud of it. I am further incensed to learn in my middle years that I was also a victim of a lying media that distorted the Vietnam war, foamed at the mouth over Nixon, a basically nothing thing, and in general shaped public opinion the way they saw fit.

We all did dumb stuff when we were young. Your generation had greater freedom and opportunities to express their idiocy than any other previous and took great advantage of it. You were lied to and it's perfectly healthy and normal to be enraged by it now that you know better. The best thing to do is make sure the younger generations don't make the same mistakes. Your article is very helpful in that regard.

May God bless and protect you.
121 posted on 08/11/2006 7:08:33 AM PDT by Antoninus (Public schools are the madrassas of the American Left. --Ann Coulter, Godless)
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To: Fishtalk
Ben Folds Five - "Brick"
by Ben Folds and Darren Jessee

6 am
Day after Christmas
I throw some clothes on in the dark
The smell of cold
Car seat is freezing
The world is sleeping
I am numb

Up the stairs to her apartment
She is balled up on the couch
Her mom and dad went down to Charlotte
They're not home to find us out

And we drive
Now that I have found someone
I'm feeling more alone
Than I ever have before

She's a brick and I'm drowning slowly
off the coast and I'm headed nowhere
She's a brick and I'm drowning slowly

They call her name at 7:30
I pace around the parking lot
Then I walk down to buy her flowers
And sell some gifts that I got

Can't you see
It's not me you're dying for
Now she's feeling more alone
Then she ever has before

She's a brick and I'm drowning slowly
Off the coast and I'm headed nowhere
She's a brick and I'm drowning slowly

As weeks went by
It showed that she was not fine
They told me son it's time to tell the truth
She broke down and I broke down
Cause I was tired of lying

Driving home to her apartment
For the moment we're alone
She's alone
And I'm alone
And Now I know it

She's a brick and I'm drowning slowly
Off the coast and I'm headed nowhere
She's a brick and I'm drowning slowly

Wikipedia entry on the song "Brick"
122 posted on 08/11/2006 7:13:17 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: NYer

ping


123 posted on 08/11/2006 7:14:40 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: Hildy

"I say this because there's always two sides to a story. I believe the poster and her heartfelt story. But that's HER story and everyone's story is different."

But the stories for the babies are always the same.


124 posted on 08/11/2006 7:15:44 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: stands2reason
The point is, Pro-life is not just a "Christian" issue. It's a human rights issue.

Perhaps. But it is natural for a Christian to address the issue in Christian terms. I would have no problem with it if a Jewish person addressed it in Jewish terms. In fact, I'd celebrate it.

Secularism isn't the default for most people. It isn't for me and most people I know, anyway. If you ask me to take Christ out of my life before I post on FR, you may as well ask me to to take out my mind, heart, and soul as well.
125 posted on 08/11/2006 7:17:45 AM PDT by Antoninus (Public schools are the madrassas of the American Left. --Ann Coulter, Godless)
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To: Scotswife

Do you really think Hildy considers the ones terminated in abortion to be alive children?


126 posted on 08/11/2006 7:18:32 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Fishtalk
It took incredible courage to post this, and I am so glad you've choosen to share it with us. It's obvious that you are repentant for what happened, and you can be forgiven, which I'm sure you know already from previous posts.

Thank you for sharing this with us. You'll be in my prayers.

127 posted on 08/11/2006 7:20:59 AM PDT by arizonarachel (Praying for a May miracle!)
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To: MHGinTN

"Do you really think Hildy considers the ones terminated in abortion to be alive children?"

I don't have a clue what she really thinks. I just notice a trend to concentrate on the woman's story - the woman's problems - and I'm just pointing out that there is another perspective concerning the ones who are being led into the slaughterhouses. They have a "story" too - but have no voice to tell it.

In my own personal experience...I have had very good friends, coworkers, and aquaintances tell me their own stories about abortion in their lives. Most were regretful...some were not.
Either way the outcome was the same for the babies.



128 posted on 08/11/2006 7:21:56 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: contrarian
My son impregnated his girlfriend when they were both 21. They had pretty much broken up by the time she found out, and she was scheduled to have an abortion at 9 weeks' gestation.

My son is pro-life, however, and he told her if she had the abortion, he would never talk to her again. So she decided to give the baby up for adoption instead. But when we went for her first ultrasound and she saw her daughter move, she decided to keep her.

Teegan will be 3 in 2 weeks. She's gorgeous, smart, funny, loving, and adorable. Her mother is still in love with her father but he does not love her, so they live apart. It's difficult but it sure beats the alternative.

Teegan comes over to her Daddy's house every weekend (he is living at home temporarily so it's really Grandma's and Papa's house), so her Daddy is very much involved in her life. She is incredibly lucky to have a family who adores her, and to have life.

129 posted on 08/11/2006 7:26:28 AM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: Fishtalk
God has obviously forgiven you, as you have decided to take this opportunity to expose the truth about abortion and put the truth to the Big Lie.

God speed, Fishtalk!

130 posted on 08/11/2006 7:29:20 AM PDT by CWW (Elect Reagan Republicans!!!)
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To: Fishtalk

All the best to you, Pat.


131 posted on 08/11/2006 7:31:06 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: IrishRainy

"Teegan will be 3 in 2 weeks. She's gorgeous, smart, funny, loving, and adorable"

Congratulation!
It isn't an "ideal" situation, but it certainly does beat the alternative.

If the mother never had that change of heart, she too could have said someday "my life is better now because of abortion" - But that is only because she never would have experienced the joy and love of little Teegan.


132 posted on 08/11/2006 7:32:44 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Fishtalk

Wow! First of all, I am a huge pro-lifer and really dispise abortion. However, I would like to outlaw abortion beginning today. I can't very well hate you or even be disgusted by you for something that happened so long ago. What my thoughts of you are that you are a gutsy lady, brave and a FREEPER. lol. What I believe you did and do today is educate young women on the negatives of abortion and through your experience save more babies than even you realize. Thank you for your story. I wish you the best. I am glad that you have a daughter that has a mother who learned from her mistakes and in the long run is a better parent for it. God Bless you!!!!


133 posted on 08/11/2006 7:43:51 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Hildy
You're wrong...how many women and girls have abortions? ALOT. You think they're all on the verge of nervous breakdowns? The ones who talk about it are very vocal..others just go on with their lives.

They have lives to go on with because they weren't chopped up by an abortionist.

Cordially,

134 posted on 08/11/2006 7:45:12 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: Fishtalk
God bless you for sharing, and I pray He heal all of us. I have a family member with whom I am very close...close enough that I was one of the few people she shared her abortion story with. I love her even more now, not just because of that, but because she hurts so very much and needs love. I wish you love, too. The others are right, and I agree not because I want to sound superior, but because I am a sinner as well (I try my best to remember sins of the spirit are not separate from sins of the deed) and I know if He loves one sinner for their repentence, then he will welcome me home, a prodigal daughter.

God bless you!

135 posted on 08/11/2006 7:47:57 AM PDT by Alkhin (http://awanderingconfluence.com/blog ~ Tributaries)
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To: Scotswife
It truly was the hand of God at work here too. We were very upset that our only grandchild was going to be terminated, and we were fervently praying that she would change her mind.

Nothing we said seemed to be working but then one day she told her boss she was pregnant and wasn't sure what to do. It turns out he had 3 adopted children and 2 of them were adopted thru Catholic Social Services, which I had been telling her about. And THAT turned out to be the thing that changed her mind.

Funny how God works...

I went to tell my daughter (who was 14 at the time) that the abortion wasn't going to happen, and she burst into tears. She told me she had been crying herself to sleep every night because of the potential loss of her niece/nephew.

The pain from abortion is far greater than it appears.

136 posted on 08/11/2006 7:48:33 AM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: Hildy

I have read your posts and am sorry that anybody put you down for your decisions. I know that I get very nasty when it comes to abortion, but never personally attack a person. In fact, I had no idea of your past. Again you to me are as gutsy and brave as the original poster. God Bless you too!!!!


137 posted on 08/11/2006 7:53:08 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Fishtalk
That's my abortion story.

Confession is good for the soul. Coming to grips with who one is and what one has done can be very painful, for those whose conscience has not been seared beyond recognition. I know from experience. Here is the experience of another poster, recently shared, that may be of some help to you. .

The particulars of your story, and the effects of the deed on all involved, including the father, sadly conform to one lady said about it some time ago:

"America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe v. Wade has deformed a great nation. The so-called right to abortion has pitted mothers against their children and women against men. It has sown violence and discord at the heart of the most intimate human relationships. It has aggravated the derogation of the father's role in an increasingly fatherless society. It has portrayed the greatest of gifts -- a child -- as a competitor, an intrusion, and an inconvenience. It has nominally accorded mothers unfettered dominion over the independent lives of their physically dependent sons and daughters"
And, in granting this unconscionable power, it has exposed many women to unjust and selfish demands from their husbands or other sexual partners. Human rights are not a privilege conferred by government. They are every human being's entitlement by virtue of his humanity. The right to life does not depend, and must not be declared to be contingent, on the pleasure of anyone else, not even a parent or a sovereign." (Mother Theresa -- "Notable and Quotable," Wall Street Journal, 2/25/94, p. A14)
"But I feel that the greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion, because it is a war against the child - a direct killing of the innocent child - murder by the mother herself. And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another? How do we persuade a woman not to have an abortion? As always, we must persuade her with love, and we remind ourselves that love means to be willing to give until it hurts. Jesus gave even his life to love us. So the mother who is thinking of abortion, should be helped to love - that is, to give until it hurts her plans, or her free time, to respect the life of her child. The father of that child, whoever he is, must also give until it hurts. By abortion, the mother does not learn to love, but kills even her own child to solve her problems. And by abortion, the father is told that he does not have to take any responsibility at all for the child he has brought into the world. That father is likely to put other women into the same trouble. So abortion just leads to more abortion. Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching the people to love, but to use any violence to get what they want. That is why the greatest destroyer of love and peace is abortion. "
Mother Theresa

Cordially,

138 posted on 08/11/2006 8:18:42 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: Moral Hazard

"Before either my mother or my older sister were born my mom was pregnant with another potential son. Towards the end of the pregnancy she became extremely anemic and almost died.

If she had not had an abortion, she most likely would have died, and I wouldn't be here today."

Maybe someone with a medical background can help me clear up my confusion here.
I fail to see how an abortion "at the end of the pregnancy" poses any LESS of a risk to an anemic woman than a live birth or C-section. The uterus still has to shed the lining, the placenta still has to come out, and on top of that you are introducing sharp instruments into the womb to dismember the baby. It is a common side affect of abortion that these instruments can puncture the uterus and pose a greater risk to bleeding.

It would seem that a good doctor would attempt to save both the baby and the mother through early induction or c-section.




139 posted on 08/11/2006 8:32:39 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: IrishRainy

At age 20, 2 months after I became engaged I found out I was pregnant.
Despite the engagement I had many friends and relatives urging me not to "ruin my life" by having a baby so young before we had a chance to get our feet underneath us.
We had no money, we were excited about the marriage, but not ready for parenthood yet. My fiance had a mountain of student loan debt.
In the eyes of the "world" - there were many good reasons to trot off to the local abortion clinic.

Ironically - it was my good friends who had already had abortions that urged me not to do it. They were suffering. They felt they had been "had". The clinic gave them the 'ole "clump of cells" routine and told them they could move on with their lives.
Later they learned this was all a lie and wish they could have done it differently.

And really...they were only telling me what I already knew in my heart - that this was a living growing human life.
I had made my "choice" when I participated in her conception.

The result is that now she is a beautiful young women who is getting ready to leave the nest for college. She has younger brothers and sisters. I am also thankful for a long and happy marriage that most likely never would have made it had we aborted our own baby.

I could be wealthier, I could have invested more time into a career and status....but when I look at my husband and children I am very pleased with the choices we made.


140 posted on 08/11/2006 8:42:23 AM PDT by Scotswife
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