Rangel: Islamofascist an Insult - 'You Never Called Hitler a Christian Fascist'

Hardball/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

[governsleastgovernsbest]

by Mark Finkelstein

August 11, 2006 - 21:47

It doesn't take much to offend liberals' exquisite sensitivities. The latest? Referring to Islamofascists as . . . Islamofascists. Chris Matthews got the ball rolling on this evening's Hardball. But Charlie Rangel upped the ante to the max, managing to impugn Christians and Jews in the bargain. Fortunately, GOP Congressman Dan Lungren had the guts to call Rangel on it.

Matthews got things started by challenging Lungren: "Would you include Hezbollah in that group [of Islamofascists]? Would you include Hamas, they are they enemies of Israel. Are they also enemies of ours? Are they also fascists because they have a dispute with Israel? Anybody who is against us is a fascist now."

Chris, are you really asking whether Hezbollah, who killed 241 of our servicemen in Lebanon, is our enemy?

Rangel sent things to the moon a bit later with this line: "You take Islamic and you call them fascists, you call them radical. You never called Hitler a Christian fascist. This is insulting to an entire religion."

Lungren wouldn't be intimidated: "No it's not that at all, and that is absolute nonsense to say that."

Rangel wasn't finished: "We got Christian killers, we got Jewish killers, and we never identify them by religion. What you're doing is demonizing."

Demonizing, Charlie? What would you call the people who wanted to blow up thousands of innocents civilians over the Atlantic this week?

[governsleastgovernsbest]

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[msnimje]

If George Bush were around he probably would have called him exactly that.

[NormsRevenge]

LOL.. Good OLd Charlie..

[darkangel82]

Damn, what a piece of $#+! Rangel is.

[msnimje]

Charlie is always the first one out to support and defend the scum of the earth. Last week it was his lover, Fidel and this week the honorable Islamofascists of the world.

[Shermy]

Um, Hitler wasn't a Christian and didn't purport to be acting per Christianity.

[vladimir998]

Because Hitler wasn't a Christian you moron.

[Peach]

The leftists are really being outted by all this, aren't they?

They can't even call the jihadists what they are which should be at least step one for any party pretending to be serious about fighting the war.

And, I'll note, this is not the first time the president has called the jihadists Islamofascists; in fact, I think he did it right after 9/11.

[ncountylee]

Hey Rangel...Hitler was not a Christian!

[mystery-ak]

STFU Charlie....I'm sick of hearing from you..

[scory]

I am really, really, really getting tired of these fools.

[dirtboy]

Please, Charlie, don't change a thing. The BEST GOP spinmeisters can't outdo your production of useful sound bites.

Oh, and we DO expect you to resign when the Dems fail to win the House in November, like you promised.

Actually, we figure you were just as full of Shiite when you said that as you were in this interview.

[Mr. Mojo]

'You Never Called Hitler a Christian Fascist'

Perhaps because he wasn't a Christian. ...nor did he claim to be.

[Cinnamon]

STFU Rangel.. just STFU! the American people are tired of your party's bs cut n' run, yellow chicken ass kissing, do nothing.. and the list goes on crap

[vladimir998]

Please understand that the "moron" is Rangel and not another poster here.

[MAexile]

I was raised to call a spade a spade.

Apparently Charlie wasn't.

[airborne]

What you're doing is demonizing."

YEAH! Give 'em hell, Charlie!

[Cronos]

I never called Hitler a Christian fascist because he worshipped the old Aryanic gods.

[clintonh8r]

Charlie rumpwRangler is a steaming turd.....

[sauropod]

Rangel sent things to the moon a bit later with this line: "You take Islamic and you call them fascists, you call them radical. You never called Hitler a Christian fascist. This is insulting to an entire religion."

It's worse than you identified. Nazism is not "Christian." It sets up altruism as the ideal. As in "for the Volk, everything."

Profound ignorance on display here by everybody involved.

[A CA Guy]

Hitler rewrote the Bible in his image, so that does not make him a Christian Fascist, it makes him a satanic cultist since it mocks God's word.

Rangle needs to think the points he wants to make through to a logical conclusion.

[OldFriend]

Thank heavens Rangel will be retiring immediately after the mid term elections.

[puppypusher]

It's always good to hear how much of an Idiot Charlie Rangal can be.He has really lost it.

[diverteach]

You CAN rant on more if you like. LOL

I sure hope the RNC is stockpiling choice soundbytes like this in thier war chest.

[Bubble Girl]

Matthews got things started by challenging Lungren: "Would you include Hezbollah in that group [of Islamofascists]? Would you include Hamas, they are they enemies of Israel. Are they also enemies of ours? Are they also fascists because they have a dispute with Israel? Anybody who is against us is a fascist now."

This just amazes me. To be so partisan that you would deny the reality of Hamas and Hez'bollah...

Incredible.

This is another example of anti-semitism.

[Irontank]

Um, Hitler wasn't a Christian and didn't purport to be acting per Christianity

Hitler was not only not a Christian...he was an anti-Christian

So it's not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death. A slow death has something comforting about it. The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advance of science. Religion will have to make more and more concessions. Gradually the myths crumble. All that's left is to prove that in nature there's no frontier between the organic and the inorganic. When understanding of the universe has become widespread, when the majority of men know that the stars are not sources of light but worlds - perhaps inhabited worlds like ours - then the Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity
--Adolf Hitler, 1941

[Humidston]

You never called Hitler a Christian fascist

Hitler was an atheist.

By the same token, Rangel is just a dumb a$$!

[sauropod]

GLGB is not a "moron." Everybody that appeared on Hairball (at least tonight) is.

Suggest you do just a teensy bit of homework next time before you post.

Moron.

[West Coast Conservative]

Hitler wasn't a Christian.

The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianty's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew.
--Adolf Hitler, 1941

[holden]

Other Judeo-Christian-led countries like the US, UK, and France opposed Hitler's fascism. Let's see other Muslim-led countries oppose the Islamofascists!

I think we all know it's not going to happen any time soon, as those who aren't rooting for the Islamofascists are fearful for their safety for voicing any real opposition (as opposed to CAIR's taqiyah opposition).

HF

[bahblahbah]

Hitler tried to rewrite the whole bible. He showed up to a lot of Christian public functions, but he thought the religion was weak and that Christianity had to be changed a lot to align with Nazi goals.

[Shermy]

They can't discuss religion. See Matthews attempt to recenter the debate as being about "Israel."

Yes, per Bush Hamas could be called "Islamic fascists." But the PLO isn't.

[ClaireSolt]

That's how he got and has kept his job, by playing the race card. We need to be careful that we don't make the same corrupt deal with Muslim charlatans that we made with the blacks in 1968 when they rioted. We ceded the big center cities to a bunch of goons.

[dirtboy]

Now, now, don't go confusing the little dears with facts. Facts severely inhibit their ability to maintain their liberalism.

[sauropod]

Retract my previous post to you.

Did not see your clarification.

I'm sorry.

[Popman]

It is hard to believe this man is a US Congressman.

A ranking member at that.

His moronic statement reflects on his constituents.

[A message]

I am really, really, really getting tired of these fools.

I second that.

[USMA '71]

Charlie Rangel is just another fine example of my belief that 90+% of our elected federal officials are just plain STUPID!. (PA State level official fall into that category as well.)

[HitmanLV]

They appear to think that 'Islamic' in 'Islamic Fascist' describes the person doing the deed, where in fact it just describes the nature of the Fascisim that motivates the baddies.

[Prost1]

How many people besides yourself saw this program?

Chris Matthews...who is he?

Charlie Rangel - Harlem representative - really diversified constituency!

Yep, an honest sample of Americana.... right!

[SuziQ]

Well, since Hitler wasn't a Christian, there was no need to call him that.

[04-Bravo]

It's because Hitler wasn't a Christian.

He was, however, a National Socialist, so we correctly called him a Nazi.

[PGalt]

The tangled mind of Rangel mangles logic.

[tricky_k_1972]

Hey Charlie. so what are we suposed to call them ass munch?

[Baynative]

...another example of why is sooooo important to educate young people not to act like democrats. Tell them not to be rude, not to be ignorant and never to fall prey to stupid behavior. Pray in front of them and ask God to keep them safe from the mental disease of liberalism.

[Mr. Mojo]

Oh, and we DO expect you to resign when the Dems fail to win the House in November, like you promised.

Did he really make that promise? Outstanding. ....although I suspect the chances of him of honoring that promise are about the same as those of the Hollywood Lefties who pledged to leave the country after the '04 election if President Bush was re-elected.

[madison10]

Mr. Finklestein:

That's because, you dimwit, Hitler did not tie religion, except the extermination of Jews, in with his fascism. These ISLAMOFASCISTS are worse than Hitler. Their religious zeal combined with the fascism is a deeper, more sinister, evil.

[pieceofthepuzzle]

People like Charlie Rangel are filled with hate. It's that simple. It's just that the particular brand of hate that he espouses is currently PC, and in vogue with the pop/secular culture. I think this is changing. It is at least my hope.

[harrowup]

Um, Hitler wasn't a Christian and didn't purport to be acting per Christianity.

As much as I like Charlie, his ignorance sometimes overwhelms him.