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World War IV
Commentary ^ | Sept. '04 | Norman Podhoretz

Posted on 08/12/2006 5:40:09 PM PDT by T.L.Sink

To see the context of this remarkable article I suggest one see the Wall Street Journal editorial today by Joseph Rago in opinionjournal.com

It gives a comprehensive view of America's war against international terrorism and why we must not waver even - especially! - in Iraq.

(Excerpt) Read more at commentarymagazine.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: geopolitics; globaljihad; gwot; iran; iraq; israel; podhoretz; wot; wwiv
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To: Hardastarboard

I agree.


21 posted on 08/12/2006 6:45:56 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Stiv Bator
We are at war with islamofascism, and I don't care how far left a group of "Great Society Liberals" happened to be in the 1960's, they are with us in a seminal moment in US history when there is an existential threat facing the country. They understand the gravity of the geopolitical forces arrayed against American better than the American Prospect Buchanan types, and the leftist defeatocrat appeasers who like their eurocousins want to surrender to the islamofascists.

The neocons haven't forgotten 911, but the Buchanan people live in an alternative reality along with the leftist 910 appeasers. Most of these people blame America for all the ills of the world, but the neocons don't. Who do you want in the foxhole with you in this war against islamofascism, the Buchananite retrograde right, the looney lunatic left, or the neocons?

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22 posted on 08/12/2006 6:47:44 PM PDT by AdvisorB (For a terrorist bodycount in hamistan, let the smoke clear then count the ears and divide by 2.)
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To: Hardastarboard

Thanks, and no. I don't do this for a living. But when I came home after being on base during 9/11, I read until 4 in the am, and realized that this is war. I signed up for Free Republic and started posting, since I knew I'd never find the truth in media or from rinse, wash and repeat politicians.

The war on the ground for hearts and minds is Right Here.


23 posted on 08/12/2006 6:50:04 PM PDT by combat_boots (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.)
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To: Stiv Bator
By some definitions, Ronald Reagan was a NEO-CON.

They've been around for far longer than you appear to know.

Don't get comfortable; I don't think that you're going to be here very long.

24 posted on 08/12/2006 6:53:55 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: T.L.Sink

Thank you so much for posting this. This article is just mind-boggling in its analysis of the past 5 years and the factors at work that brought us into this new era. It is immense but worth every minute it takes to read and definitely a "saver" for the future.


27 posted on 08/12/2006 8:06:15 PM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: freema
"Too much of America can not comprehend these things."
That is the plan. Keep em happy, a blackberry in each hand and an extra cell phone in each pocket, allow anything goes on campuses and lower schools, make sure everyone spends lots of time at the moron box. Provide easy credit, or just sell expensive things people used to have to work for a few years, with no payments for 12 months.
Teach children to disrepect elders and all of authority. Raise up huge numbers of minorities that are never trained how to make a living but are experts in knowing what their rights are, and you had better watch out for them as they slowly wag their asses across the street and hold up traffic.
Now. How many are even willing in the slightest, if they had a slight clue, to see what the heck really has been going on.
Do have a great upcoming day. I gotta hit the sack to get up for work.
28 posted on 08/12/2006 8:10:12 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: T.L.Sink

BTTT


29 posted on 08/12/2006 8:17:13 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: combat_boots; Jim Robinson

This is brilliant!

You will not get a Pulitzer (you write the truth), but how about a FR award for excellence in the essay form.


30 posted on 08/12/2006 8:22:07 PM PDT by eleni121 (General Draza Mihailovich: We will never forget you - the hero of World War Two)
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To: T.L.Sink; All

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The Words...

http://www.Freerepublic.com/~ALOHARONNIE

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31 posted on 08/12/2006 8:36:50 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: freema

I think you're right, freema. By the way, if you want an excellent book on the subject it's "The Worm in the Apple: How the Teachers' Unions Are Destroying American Education" -- by Peter Brimelow.


32 posted on 08/12/2006 8:42:42 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
one thing we might be doing wrong is trying to fight WW4 the same way we fought WW3 when we should be fighting it the way we fought WW1 and WW2

With a touch of the best of the Crusades thrown in for good measure.

33 posted on 08/12/2006 8:56:07 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: Marine_Uncle

If I get going on that subject, I'll clear the room-
I've done my share of cleaning leftists out of schools.
It really should one of the top priorities of this nation, and is, with this President, thank God.


34 posted on 08/13/2006 3:59:15 AM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: T.L.Sink

I could write the book ; )


35 posted on 08/13/2006 4:00:57 AM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: eleni121

Thank you. I am honored.


36 posted on 08/13/2006 4:27:56 AM PDT by combat_boots (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.)
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To: freema

The system took a long time to put in place. It will take a long time to remove if at all possible. Stalin's usefull little idiots now abound everywhere.


37 posted on 08/13/2006 5:12:02 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: combat_boots
#3

Nice!

38 posted on 08/13/2006 5:19:06 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: Stiv Bator

If everyone that got told they wouldn't stay long on FR, left, there wouldn't be a FR.

There is no purpose to debate and discussion if there are no different viewpoints.

As has been said many times before, I may not agree with you, but I will fight for your right to state your views.

I learn nothing from those I totally agree with. But I learn much from those that I don't.

It is possible he was indicating that you might become dissatisfied with the attitude towards Neocons and decide you don't like FR. Hopefully you won't.


Welcome to FR.


39 posted on 08/13/2006 5:22:40 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (PARTY LIKE IT's August 21, 2006 !!!)
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To: Stiv Bator
When you talk about neocons deserting Donald Rumsfeld, you're talking about Bill Kristol, one of the foremost neocons, opposing Rumsfeld because of the Defense Secretary's handling of force modernization at the Pentagon. With the exception of Kristol and his Weekly Standard magazine, what neocons have "turned on him?" That the neocons were unhappy about Rumsfeld's handling of Moqtadr al-Sadr there can be little doubt, but most conservatives, including myself, were unhappy that Rumsfeld and the Pentagon Brass opposed offing the fat little shia instigator three years ago. If we would killed him back then, we wouldn't have seen 200 thousand Sadr supporters marching through Sadr City two weeks ago with chants of death to Israel and America. Though I'm disappointed with that event, I still support Rummy and am glad he is still at the Pentagon.

I think you may be a victim of liberal/leftist/RAT brainwashing about the "evil cabal" of "hebraic speaking" neocons. That this is racist attack on a great group of pro-American patriot , there can be little doubt.

If you have an open mind, and the fact that you are a conservative posting on one of the great conservative sites attests that you are open to the facts, I would ask you to read Douglas Murray's, "Neoconservatism: why we need it." It's a great book that will answer any questions that you have about neoconservatism.

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40 posted on 08/13/2006 7:36:42 AM PDT by AdvisorB (For a terrorist bodycount in hamistan, let the smoke clear then count the ears and divide by 2.)
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