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Agents Arrest 3 Exchange Students In Des Moines
KCCI News Channel 8 ^

Posted on 08/13/2006 3:22:59 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy

WASHINGTON -- Immigration officials have now picked up all but two of the 11 Egyptian exchange students who came to the U.S. for a summer course in Montana but never showed up for classes.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents tracked three of the students to Des Moines. They were arrested at about 8 p.m. Friday, and are being held in the Polk County Jail.

They will be here until a federal immigration judge decides if they will face charges or be deported. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents won't say what led them to find these students in Des Moines or where they were staying. The students are Ahmed Laket, 19, Mohamed Moghazy, 20, and 18-year-old Moustafa Gafary. Agents are not releasing their pictures.

Others were picked up earlier in New Jersey, Maryland, Chicago and Minnesota. They were part of a group of 17 who arrived in New York July 29 en route to a month-long program at Montana State University in Bozeman. Six reported on time, but the 11 others were no-shows.

Immigration officials said the students are not considered a terrorism risk, but all the no-shows now face deportation.

Montana State contacted Homeland Security officials after repeatedly trying to contact the missing students, under procedures put into place after Sept. 11, 2001, to track foreign students.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; US: Iowa; US: Montana
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To: oceanview

It's interesting that we haven't heard much from the Egyptian government about its 'missing' students.


41 posted on 08/13/2006 4:54:21 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: oceanview
oh and it makes me wonder, if another attack would be the tipping point?
I'm going to tell you a story.....
There once was a group of people who hated another group of people, heck, I'm going to tell the whole truth....
these haters, they hated everybody in the whole world, cause if they didn't get their way and establish their type of law (world wide) then they felt defeated and allah (their demon god) wouldn't be happy with them. So these haters would go read their holy book and find words in their holy book which instructed the haters to not only hate but kill. So every so often this group that hated everyone, would come out into the world to try and make everyone else in the world as miserable as they (the haters) were. They would kill and cause the deaths of women and children and would then use those deaths caused by the haters as weapons against their enemies. The people all saw the haters type of lies, and the people one by one were turned from the haters and shared their meager possessions with those the haters had hurt. More of the world saw the haters for who they really were and 'un' threw up their hands in a woeful sonet and said, "Dang, there's no money in these lines."
But none of those glorious things which had happened were counted to be a blessed event. The people could not recognize the wonder of the day's newness dawning, for their minds couldn't recognize the concept, the beauty, the breath, or the awareness.

So what happened?

I certainly don't know!

42 posted on 08/13/2006 5:00:36 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Israel - protecting a piece of a civilized world from rocket firing maroons 'un'peace treaties sale)
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To: ThreePuttinDude

Wait a minute...these all look like Arabic young men, possibly Muslim, between 17 and 25 years old! Hummmm...


43 posted on 08/13/2006 5:15:52 PM PDT by 50sDad (ST3d: Real Star Trek 3d Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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To: 50sDad

HA HA HA, well go figure, it seems to be a trend.


44 posted on 08/13/2006 5:20:16 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude ().....temporarily empty .....()
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To: mass55th

Here is an interesting take:
Did authorities visit with the parents of the missing students? If so, were they concerned that their child has dissappeared?


45 posted on 08/13/2006 5:55:03 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: KJC1
They were traveling, in general, as a group. However, that doesn't mean they all knew each other. Some of them seemed to have been part of smaller groups.

The way you get lost at a very large airport in a really strange country is go there. Everything goes downhill from that point on.

They are not all ending up in different states. 3 of them were caught right there in Maryland. Best bet is they got a flight from New York to Manassas, then a cab to a distant relative in Baltimore.

The first one was a guy who was found in Minnesota.

The clue is they had "ticketing" that said "MN...." somewhere.

BTW, once inside the United States the telephone number to reach the school changed. To call from Egypt to the United States you must dial "001", then the Area Code, then the number. To call the same number in the United States you simply dial "1" and then the Area Code, etc.

If you have a cellphone you don't dial "1".

From the US to Mexico you first dial "01152". From Egypt to Mexico that's "0052".

You can discover all this neat stuff at http://www.countrycallingcodes.com/

46 posted on 08/13/2006 5:59:49 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
"How about simply stupid."

O.K. Personal attack me,if you you must. I'm sorry. After reading your biography on your "Look at me and what I think" page I can see that I am clearly inferior to your superiority

Way to go, you should feel proud

47 posted on 08/13/2006 6:17:15 PM PDT by uptoolate (The U.N. will be the tool of the Anti-Christ)
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To: kinoxi
Oh, yeah, couple of them went to "Manville NJ" (probbly by taxicab driven by an Egyptian). There's an "MN" for you; with three of 'em going through Manassas, VA airport (another "MN" deal), and one though Minneapolis Minnesota ("MN" all over the place), the fellow picked up in Chicago was at an airline counter actually trying to go to Bozeman, Montana (again, an obvious "MN"), etc.

The trick are the international three digit airport codes with "MN". They are:

MNT for MONTSERRAT AIRWAYS,

AMN Alma, MI [Gratiot Community Airport], USA.

MMN Stow, MA [Minute Man Air Field], USA.

MNA Melangguane, Indonesia.

MNB Moanda, Zaire.

MNC Nacala, Mozambique.

MND Medina, CA, USA.

MNE Mungeranie, South Australia, Australia.

MNF Mana, Fiji.

MNG Maningrida, Northern Territory, Australia.

MNH Minneriya, Sri Lanka.

MNI Montserrat (Plymouth) [Blackburne], Montserrat.

MNJ Mananjary, Madagascar.

MNK Maiana, Kiribati.

MNL Manila [Ninoy Aquino International Airport], Philippines.

MNM Menominee, MI [Menominee-Marinette Twin County Airport] USA.

. MNN Marion, OH [Marion Municipal Airport], USA.

MNO Manono, Zaire., MNP Maron, Papua New Guinea

MNQ Monto, Queensland, Australia,

MNR Mongu, Zambia, MNS Mansa, Zambia,

MNT Minto, AK [Minto Airport], USA,

MNU Maulmyine (Moulmein), Myanmar,

MNV Mountain Valley, Australia,

MNW MacDonald Downs, Australia,

MNX Manicore, AM, Brazil,

MNY Mono, Solomon Islands,

MNZ Manassas, VA [Manassas Regional Airport/Harry P. Davis Field], USA,

I strongly suspect an astute Homeland Security Analyst got hold of this early on and did the obvious ~ namely, assume they got lost and might be looking for places in MN ~ then, upon noticing that MNZ (Manassas) is a Washington DC suburb, got the FBI on the phone and 'splained things (lest these fellows turn out to be terrorists).

48 posted on 08/13/2006 6:18:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: oceanview

BTW, whenever I get lost I find somebody who can speak English ~ and that's getting harder and harder.


49 posted on 08/13/2006 6:19:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: babaloo

Moslem taxicab driver from Egypt more than likely. Wish we knew more about the circumstances, but we don't.


50 posted on 08/13/2006 6:21:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mass55th

Sure, on the average they were lost in pairs, but some of them were lost in threes and ones.


51 posted on 08/13/2006 6:22:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: oceanview

Weren't they, in fact, members of a band?


52 posted on 08/13/2006 6:23:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

according to jacobsen (savage interviewed her just last week) - the only verification of that was the "manager" that the band members themselves gave the FBI information about. they called him, he validated it. big deal.


53 posted on 08/13/2006 6:24:44 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: uptoolate
That was a totally "impersonal" attack and you know it. Best to NOT say "call me....." 'cause somebody here will do it. I just happened to be first this time.

And no, frankly, I don't care if your bigoted, or whatever ~ just be yourself, but don't invite abuse.

54 posted on 08/13/2006 6:25:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Well, I disagree with your take. I've flown internationally (by myself) since I was 16, and I never found myself wandering around on the wrong side of whatever country clueless about my true destination.

These are college students, surely they know how to use maps, and researched their exchange program. It's doubtful that they are so stupid that the country code for dialing the phone would render them helpless and lost. There are infinite ways they could have made contact with the school, like, asking people for help?


55 posted on 08/13/2006 6:27:56 PM PDT by KJC1 ("Thank you for the Hezbollah view." (Tony Snow to Helen Thomas))
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To: muawiyah
I understand there is a possibility (remote) that these 11 all got lost from the same college student visa program, from the same country, on the same day. The fact that they all got lost in small groups dispersed throughout the country and ended up in residential homes leads me to believe nefarious intentions ( ie. decoys) on some level.
56 posted on 08/13/2006 6:28:03 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: KJC1
They're from Egypt. It's a country about 500 miles long, 50 miles wide (except in the North) that has a big river down the middle.

I would imagine it to be incredibly easy for an Egyptian to get lost in the United States since so few of them have any experience in foreign travel.

57 posted on 08/13/2006 6:30:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

The fact that they're from Egypt doesn't mean squat as far as their ability to navigate or use maps or...ask people for help.


58 posted on 08/13/2006 6:31:48 PM PDT by KJC1 ("Thank you for the Hezbollah view." (Tony Snow to Helen Thomas))
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To: KJC1
Sure it does ~ I once spent several days in winter helping some 18 year old students from Saudi Arabia get acquainted with Indiana University in January when it was bitter cold.

They loved the snow. They did not love gloves or keeping their hats and scarves on.

We had to let them get near frostbite with some serious numbing before they learned.

Middle Easterners are usually not as well acquainted with modern life as Americans.

59 posted on 08/13/2006 6:38:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

"the fellow picked up in Chicago was at an airline counter actually trying to go to Bozeman, Montana"

Only a week late and only after his picture was plastered all over the internet, captioned with a "BOLO" and "Approach with Caution"

"Lost" for one entire week? Don't think so.


60 posted on 08/13/2006 6:38:18 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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