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To pull off a win, Angelides must seize his opportunities
Contra Costa Times ^ | 8/14/6 | Steven Harmon

Posted on 08/14/2006 7:45:09 AM PDT by SmithL

SACRAMENTO - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has a solid lead in the polls. He has the bully pulpit of incumbency and the glitz of Hollywood celebrity. And history is on his side: No sitting governor has lost a second-term election since World War II.

Few incumbencies have posed such obstacles to challengers as the one Democrat Phil Angelides is facing in the next 88 days.

Yet Angelides' campaign strategists insist the political landscape favors them -- and political analysts also see a way for Angelides to emerge as the victor.

But it will not be easy, and Angelides must take full advantage of the opportunities: the prevailing negative sentiment toward Republicans nationally; the governor's inability to push through reform; the governor's sometimes tense relationship with conservatives; the disaffection Latinos have with the governor; and the likelihood there may still be time to inform voters about Angelides and remake his image.

Here's a more detailed look at how Angelides might take advantage of those opportunities -- and the obstacles he must overcome:

Anti-Republican mood: The Angelides camp is counting on a sour electorate to punish Republicans for the Iraq war, insecurities in the economy, high gas prices and excessive corporate profits. Voter angst, they predict, could translate into a vote against Schwarzenegger.

"Anti-Bush voters are energized and ready," said Bill Carrick, Angelides' media consultant, in a memo discussing the impact of Connecticut Democratic Sen. Joe Lieberman's loss to anti-war candidate Ned Lamont, "to take their opposition to President Bush out on anyone perceived to be a Bush ally."

Tying Schwarzenegger to the national scene may be difficult, said Bruce Cain, director of the University of California Center in Washington, but it is not impossible.

"No question there's fodder there," Cain said. "The Angelides people have put their finger on a very plausible strategy. They can ram the image of Schwarzenegger going to Ohio (to campaign for Bush) down his throat."

The question, Cain said, is whether Schwarzenegger has been able to erase that image with his sprint to the center and his public rebukes of Bush. The governor has gone to great lengths to distance himself from the president on issues such as global warming, Medicare and federal help on floods.

Schwarzenegger's reform record: The Angelides team must make this campaign a referendum on Schwarzenegger, said Chris Lehane, a Democratic strategist who worked on Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign and expects to work with labor groups in the gubernatorial campaign.

"The uber-message is that Schwarzenegger is a flip-flopper," Lehane said. "They have to show he has no core values."

Angelides appears to have found an issue -- political reform -- to drive that home. After endorsing Proposition 89, a sweeping political reform measure, Angelides has hammered Schwarzenegger for failing to live up to his promise to change politics in Sacramento.

Schwarzenegger opposes Prop. 89 because it would raise corporate taxes, but by doing so, Democrats can insist he has sold out his promise to "clean up the Capitol." That might play especially well for independents, voters who decline to state any party affiliation, and others who may have viewed Schwarzenegger as a different kind of politician.

Still, Schwarzenegger may already have blunted some of the fallout by quickly embracing other issues that are popular with voters, including the proposals for building roads and schools, and a crime measure that is tough on sexual predators.

Uneasy conservatives: Schwarzenegger's balancing act -- trying to both appeal to centrists and hold his conservative base -- could ultimately turn off GOP voters.

Conservatives have attacked Schwarzenegger for lurching to the left on issues such as global warming and immigration.

"Things that Schwarzenegger has been saying have angered the base, so a turnout dynamic becomes part of the national thing," said Paul Maslin, Angelides' chief strategist and pollster. "Our side is more motivated; theirs is dispirited, cross-pressured" between wanting to vote for a Republican but feeling frustrated with Schwarzenegger.

Republicans, though, say Democrats would be foolish to rely on GOP disaffection.

GOP voters are not the "most motivated electorate right now, but they're pretty reliable voters," said Rob Stutzman, a Republican strategist and Schwarzenegger's former chief spokesman. "And the disaffection Republicans have with our party is directed at Washington. Arnold remains strong with Republican voters."

Latino backlash: Latino voters, who could represent as much as 15 percent of the vote, are uniquely motivated by national immigration issues, Democratic strategists say. And they may focus their wrath on Republicans -- and Schwarzenegger, despite his recent attempts to distance himself from hard-line conservative views on the issue.

With his level of Latino support dwindling to an all-time low -- less than 20 percent in recent polls, compared with 31 percent of the Latino vote he received in 2003 -- Schwarzenegger has tried to reach out to Latinos this summer.

He apologized for voting in favor of Proposition 187, which denied social services to illegal immigrants. He has appointed several Latinos to government posts, and has called for immigration reform at the national level.

Still, many Latinos will not forget -- or forgive -- his declaration of support for the Minutemen border militia or his promise to veto a bill to give driver's licenses to undocumented immigrants.

In a recent poll by the Survey, Policy & Research Institute at San Jose State, Latinos supported Angelides over Schwarzenegger, 61 percent to 19 percent.

"This is a constituency with specific problems with the governor's actions," Maslin said, "and has a general feeling about being scapegoated by Republicans."

But one problem for Angelides is that he is not getting full-throated support from the two highest-profile Latinos in elective politics: Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez, D-Los Angeles, and Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa. The two are close friends and political allies -- and Villaraigosa is a presumed candidate for governor in 2010, a run that would probably have to go on hold if Angelides were elected.

Image makeover: Angelides started the general campaign battered and bruised from a tough primary with state Controller Steve Westly, and immediately faced an onslaught of TV ads from the Schwarzenegger campaign defining him as a tax-and-spend liberal.

The Angelides team thinks it has enough time to reshape his image, though some wonder why he has not done more sooner.

"He may have a game plan, but I don't think anybody can say it's been implemented," said Kareem Crayton, an expert on law and politics at the University of Southern California. "A lot of people are wondering where he's been. It's obviously their strategy to wait until the fall, but it's kind of surprising he hasn't done more to reintroduce himself."

Maslin says there will be no shortage of opportunities to bring Angelides into focus for voters, who will begin to pay attention as summer winds down.

"We'll have plenty opportunity to communicate who this guy is, what he's all about," Maslin said. "And we know we gain as a result of that."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: angelides; calgov2006; election2006; electiongovernor; schwarzenegger
"Anti-Bush voters are energized and ready,"

Angelides can certainly count on the moonbat vote.

1 posted on 08/14/2006 7:45:10 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL; .38sw; 359Henrie; 1 FELLOW FREEPER; 101viking; 1IDVET; 1lawlady; 1380 KTKZ Sacramento; ...

This entire article is a coded message to those moonbats in positions of influence, that it is time to start the dirty tricks, since the prescious candidate is losing big.


2 posted on 08/14/2006 7:49:30 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: editor-surveyor

Astounding insight you posted there. I would have read this and figured it was ivory tower handicapping. It's all too plausible that every paragraph is accompanied by a nudge and a wink.


3 posted on 08/14/2006 7:53:57 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: SmithL
"The uber-message is that Schwarzenegger is a flip-flopper," Lehane said. "They have to show he has no core values."

Well, he doesn't...but Angelides's problem is that he does have core values and they happen to be highly toxic to the future of the state.

Plus he would have to look like Brad Pitt to beat Arnold and he is the the quintessential leftist troll - if Helen Thomas had a nephew, Phil would be him. ;)

4 posted on 08/14/2006 7:54:07 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: SmithL
Angelides is a candidate straight out of Central Casting.

Arnold could not have found a better opponent.

On the one hand, you have a telegenic, media savvy ex-movie star versus a nebbish bookwork with all the sex appeal of a pair of old gym socks.

I sense the hand of Rove in the selection of Angelides.

Cheers,

knewshound

Latest Column  The Last Normal Day 21 Aug 2006
5 posted on 08/14/2006 7:54:12 AM PDT by knews_hound (Driving Liberals nuts since 1975 !)
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To: SmithL
Yet Angelides' campaign strategists insist the political landscape favors them -- and political analysts also see a way for Angelides to emerge as the victor.

His own consultants lie to collect their paycheck. Meanwhile,
Angelides doesn't have a chance. He's gonna get slaughtered.

6 posted on 08/14/2006 7:54:26 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: SmithL

...Schwarzenegger campaign defining him as a tax-and-spend liberal.
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He is that, and much worse. Taxifornia is already reeling from massive confiscatory taxation, and this socialist liberal wants to raise MANY taxes. Like most liberals, they have no sense of consequence of their Marxist-style actions...ONLY the quest for power and control. Businesses are already leaving the state in droves, headed for Nevada and other business-friendly states.

The libs are fools and idiots. Just pray this tax-crazy liberal moron does not get elected.


7 posted on 08/14/2006 7:56:23 AM PDT by EagleUSA (T)
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To: knews_hound

The term best used to describe Angelides is "pencil-necked geek". And he has a goofy Alfred E. Neumann grin to boot.


8 posted on 08/14/2006 7:58:23 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: SmithL
When you boil this all down, it says Angeledies can win by attacks alone. Nothing there about what Angeledies wants do do, or what his programs will be.

Typical Lehane loser strategy.

9 posted on 08/14/2006 8:03:27 AM PDT by LexBaird ("Politically Correct" is the politically correct term for "F*cking Retarded". - Psycho Bunny)
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To: SmithL; FairOpinion
Angelides can certainly count on the moonbat vote.

Including the powerful unions which defeated Arnold's special election.

Arnold and Tom need every single Republican vote ... and then some.

10 posted on 08/14/2006 8:16:29 AM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: SmithL
political analysts also see a way for Angelides to emerge as the victor.

If he goes into hiding between now and election day, and especially forbids his picture from being published.


11 posted on 08/14/2006 8:21:28 AM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: calcowgirl

The article must have been written by one of those consultants. Did you notice it didn't cite Arnold's overall poll numbers, just one that shows him losing with hispanics?

I daresay Arnold's numbers were so good it would have given a lie to the whole article, which wouldn't surprise me.

I know Arnold hasn't done everything we wanted him to do, but I like the guy. I think he's doing a good job given the political realities of his situation, which have always been heavily aligned against change.

It can't help Angelides to see Los Angeles mayor Villagrosa, who at the very least is a dynamic figure, not in his corner.

D


12 posted on 08/14/2006 8:23:49 AM PDT by daviddennis
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To: SmithL
Angelides' real problem is he has endorsed higher taxes. And more spending at a time when California is spending more than it takes in revenue. He is an ultra-Left politician who tries to be all things to all people. And that just isn't very believable, even among Democrats.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)

13 posted on 08/14/2006 8:25:48 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: editor-surveyor
This entire article is a coded message to those moonbats in positions of influence, that it is time to start the dirty tricks

Yeah, and not so coded really.

The uphill battle is that the liberal/lefties don't necessarily dislike Schwarzenegger all that much and sodomite contingency which is influential likes him and think he's great.

In other words a lot of Angelides natural constitiency doesn't hate his opponent the way they normally would.

14 posted on 08/14/2006 8:26:39 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: editor-surveyor

"This entire article is a coded message to those moonbats in positions of influence, that it is time to start the dirty tricks, since the prescious candidate is losing big."

Excellent code cracking!



15 posted on 08/14/2006 8:29:20 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: LexBaird
When you boil this all down, it says Angeledies can win by attacks alone. Nothing there about what Angeledies wants do do, or what his programs will be. Typical Lehane loser strategy.

For those in SoCal, look for free copies of the DNC Times (that's the "Los Angeles Times" for those in Rio Linda) to "mysteriously appear" on your doorstep around the time of the election, as it did around the time of the recall election between Arnold and Gumby Davis...with, of course, a few gratuitous hit pieces on Arnold, a few puff pieces on Devilides, or both.

16 posted on 08/14/2006 8:41:38 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (The only way to bring a permanent peace is to eliminate the permanent threat. - FReeper Optimist)
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To: EagleUSA
...Schwarzenegger campaign defining him as a tax-and-spend liberal.

As opposed to a borrow-and-spend liberal?

Guess which one costs more in the long run?

17 posted on 08/14/2006 8:42:54 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: Carry_Okie

As opposed to a borrow-and-spend liberal?
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There is a difference between the two people and their parties. Regardless of Arnie's penchant to spend, a huge idealogical difference.


18 posted on 08/14/2006 8:45:59 AM PDT by EagleUSA (T)
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To: SmithL

Angelides is his own worst enemy.

Vocally supporting homosexual based marriage was a dead ender and campaign killer.

Remember he was in charge of Calif. for Dukakis.

Angelides is just Gray Davis without the charisma.


19 posted on 08/14/2006 8:47:40 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SmithL

""Anti-Bush voters are energized and ready,"

We can only hope the California Moonbats make this a Anti-Bush campaign as even Californians wake up to the real dangers of the WOT.


20 posted on 08/14/2006 8:57:19 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: SmithL
...and Villaraigosa is a presumed candidate for governor in 2010.

A disaster in the making. Can you say MEChA?

"We'll have plenty opportunity to communicate who this guy is, what he's all about," Maslin said. "And we know we gain as a result of that."

We already know who this guy is. He wants to raise taxes. That alone should be a deal breaker. Unfortunately, with CA voters, you're never sure. A very fickle bunch to say the least.

21 posted on 08/14/2006 9:05:26 AM PDT by SMM48
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To: Grampa Dave
"Anti-Bush voters are energized and ready,"

I didn't know Bush was on the ballot in California.

22 posted on 08/14/2006 9:34:52 AM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: SmithL
This article is full of bowel movements.

Punish Republicans for high gas prices and excessive corporate profits? Well, the idiots who are already blaming the Republicans for this are already going to vote for Angelides anyway and won't get any madder. Reasonable people, including regular liberals, understand the real reason why gas prices are high.

This is typical left-wing SOP.

23 posted on 08/14/2006 9:35:00 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: editor-surveyor; calcowgirl
This sounds like it was written by that scumbag Boob Mulholland...
24 posted on 08/14/2006 9:43:35 AM PDT by tubebender
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To: EagleUSA
Regardless of Arnie's penchant to spend, a huge idealogical difference.

Please offer details. I want a list.

25 posted on 08/14/2006 9:45:05 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: SmithL

If he is elected be prepared for higher taxes, he said he would raise them.
The libs. in California are screwing this state, the legislature is trying to come up with ideas for financing "affordable" housing. all with taxing and fees. then what? Gee, off hand, I would say stop with the extreme environmental mandates, seems that might be step one.


26 posted on 08/14/2006 9:54:10 AM PDT by Burlem
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To: tubebender

It struck me as dem propaganda, too.
And not very good propaganda, at that!


27 posted on 08/14/2006 10:01:55 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Burlem
If he is elected be prepared for higher taxes, he said he would raise them.

Of course, he can't raise them without a super-majority vote of the legislature. It makes supporting each local election that much more vital. We need to make sure to hold at least the 1/3+ of the legislators to block that nonsense if he were to be elected.

28 posted on 08/14/2006 10:05:57 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: longtermmemmory
Angelides is just Gray Davis without the charisma.

heh heh heh

29 posted on 08/14/2006 10:10:36 AM PDT by SmithL (The fact that they can't find Hoffa is proof that he never existed.)
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To: SmithL

Or as a cartoon suggested, Gray Davis with glasses.

Pilth EatYerWheaties is going to be terminated.


30 posted on 08/14/2006 10:15:38 AM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: My2Cents

As someone once said about Michael Dukakis, "If you're going to wear natural shoulder suits, it helps if you have some."


31 posted on 08/14/2006 10:26:21 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: My2Cents

"Anti-Bush voters are energized and ready,"

'I didn't know Bush was on the ballot in California.'


In California GW is hated every second of every day by the left wing lunatics, and everyday they vote against him. They relive the movie "Groundhog Day" everyday and vote against GW and lose. Talk about a quagmire.


32 posted on 08/14/2006 10:33:49 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Hugin

Dukakis lost for a reason. He was a bitter partisan know-it-all. Angelides is the same. This is why Dukakis picked him to head his California campaign.

Not even the his own Greeks are enthused with Angelides.


33 posted on 08/14/2006 11:14:48 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SmithL

I love when the media gives campaign advice to Democrats. "Here, you have to do this so you win!"

Angelides is done. Stick a fork in him. I may not be thrilled with Arnold, but the fact is Angelides is as dull as dirt and cannot count on an anti-Bush vote carrying him into office. The real fever swamp types would vote for him regardless. Less partisan Democrats will be open to voting for Arnold based on the state of the state, and the fact there's not much one can associate Arnold with Bush on. I don't think there's any perception or connection to Bush in this state between he and Arnold. I think Arnold has kept the president at arm's length.

None of these facts leaves Angelides with much.


34 posted on 08/14/2006 11:47:07 AM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: SmithL
Angelides appears to have found an issue -- political reform

LOL, only media types in their ivory towers could be so disconnected from reality as to think this is an issue that moves voters. Please. This is inside-baseball type stuff that never wins elections nor finds any passion among voters.

Also, to claim that Arnold has been weak on reform is a claim that will only play among those who forget all his reform props. last year that the unions spent nearly a quarter of a billion dollars to defeat. I don't think most people forget that fact and will be moved by any claim that Arnold isn't a reformer. I think most people understand he's been up against an immovable object when it comes to reforming the state. Yet he's still had some successes such as with worker's comp.

35 posted on 08/14/2006 11:51:06 AM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: SmithL
Angelides hasn't a prayer. He's non plus on several levels.

You can understand why the CAGOP rushed to close their gubernatorial primary.

Even a conservative could whip this weasel look alike.

36 posted on 08/14/2006 1:23:30 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: SmithL
"Angelides must seize his opportunities"

Seems Arnie already has seized him by the opportunities.....

37 posted on 08/14/2006 1:41:27 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Don't you wish there were a knob on the computer to turn up the intelligence?)
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To: MikeA

Angelides is the exact bogeyman caricature of the person Republicans talk about when they appeal to conservatives to vote for them "because the Dem is far worse." And indeed, Angelides is that bogeyman.


38 posted on 08/14/2006 2:42:12 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: SmithL
"The uber-message is that Schwarzenegger is a flip-flopper," Lehane said. "They have to show he has no core values."

Lehane you are still the schmuck from the Algore campaign who never got it!

Far from been a Schwarzenegger's cheer leader, the man delivered 2 things I cared for.

1. No Driver's licenses for illegals.

2. He balanced the California's budget without raising taxes and we are running in black numbers budget wise.

Based on those two issues The Terminator has my vote.
Under no circumstances will I vote for that Wiesel face Angelides, who promised tax increases right off the bat!

39 posted on 08/14/2006 5:17:32 PM PDT by danmar ("The two most common elements in the Universe is hydrogen and stupidity")
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To: longtermmemmory
Angelides is just Gray Davis without the charisma.

Are you telling me that Beige Davis was a charismatic persona?
Are you from LA?Angelides is just an insipid, stiff and charming as a pile of rocks type of individual.
And that weasel face, how I'd like to slap it!

40 posted on 08/14/2006 5:28:14 PM PDT by danmar ("The two most common elements in the Universe is hydrogen and stupidity")
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To: tubebender
Boob Mulholland

Is that human toe jam still around? If so, figure on an election-eve smear job of massive proportions against Arnold.

IIRC, he was one of the perps behind the Bruce Herschenson smear during the 1992 U.S. Senate election, which left California with the odious Barbara Boxer.

41 posted on 08/14/2006 5:39:58 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: editor-surveyor

But of course. When was the last time you've seen the MSM advise what a Republican must do to "pull off a win?"


42 posted on 08/14/2006 5:41:47 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: stands2reason

Republicans win by losing as far as the media are concerned.


43 posted on 08/14/2006 5:54:30 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: Inspectorette
That's him. He also plays the character of Bob Shrum on the east coast...
44 posted on 08/14/2006 6:20:28 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: danmar; longtermmemmory
Are you telling me that Beige Davis was a charismatic persona?

Compared to Angelides, Davis was Mr. Personality.

45 posted on 08/14/2006 8:42:20 PM PDT by SmithL (The fact that they can't find Hoffa is proof that he never existed.)
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To: danmar

ok so Beige Davis required a $25k "donation" in order to get an audience and Angiledes requires a $20k "donation" in order to get an audience.


46 posted on 08/15/2006 10:31:25 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SmithL

You can fault the Gov. all you want, but he turned the tables on the liberal wing and carved off the moderates.

Of Angelides, insiders in Sacramento still snicker and call him the one with "all the charm of a CPA on crack".


47 posted on 08/17/2006 4:04:43 AM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: EagleUSA
a huge idealogical difference


48 posted on 08/17/2006 4:16:30 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

a huge idealogical difference
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Good picture, and its fits, with one exception. TAXATION. Arnies knows what increased taxation to business and individuals will do to California --- Angelides does not care because he is a rank socialist, with only POWER as a goal.

Therein lies the difference.


49 posted on 08/17/2006 7:19:41 AM PDT by EagleUSA (T)
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