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Concerning the Recent Hezbollah Victory
Oregon Magazine ^ | August 14, 2006 | Larry Leonard

Posted on 08/14/2006 8:13:25 PM PDT by WaterDragon

August 14, 2006 -- From the Associated Press: BEIRUT, Lebanon Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah said Monday that his guerrillas achieved a "strategic, historic victory" against Israel - a declaration that prompted celebratory gunfire across the Lebanese capital.

Israel, to nobody's surprise, doesn't see it that way. Being a conservative, I am bound by a concept liberals deny exists. This concept is called "the truth." An historic perusal of the conservative memory covering recent Middle-East decades produces a mental pie of truth, each slice of which is an example of a time when a Jew said one thing and a Moslem said another -- and upon investigation it turned out that the Jew was describing reality and the Moslem was describing the same thing American liberals describe as a matter of course: a fairy tale.

Iran recently released a cartoon pictorial about the Holocaust. I haven't seen it. I don't need to see it. Iran recently said that the Holocaust never happened. Without seeing the new cartoon series, I know what it portrays, just as without seeing the film Syriana I knew what its message was simply by knowing who made the movie. American Hollywood liberals and God only knows what large percentage of Middle-East Moslems are natural allies if for no other reason than that they are professional liars...(snip)

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Oregon; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; goiter; hezbollah; israel; truth; victory
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Agreed. Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon will be shown to be battles within a larger context. The war is just beginning, IMHO.


22 posted on 08/14/2006 8:54:32 PM PDT by Paraclete
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To: WaterDragon

Arabs have a habit of delaring victory while the battle is still in progress and when the lose is obvious. This one is still in play.


23 posted on 08/14/2006 8:58:33 PM PDT by claudiustg (Equivalence is depravity.)
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To: ClaireSolt

The Lebanese are talking about incorporating the Hezzies into their Army. The big losers are the Lebanese, and they are the authors of their own misfortune, not the Israelis.


24 posted on 08/14/2006 9:04:24 PM PDT by claudiustg (Equivalence is depravity.)
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To: WVNan

Why indeed..


25 posted on 08/14/2006 9:26:45 PM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES.)
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To: WVNan

"Why is there no country in the West with gumption enough to WIN a war?"

Your rant is so right.


26 posted on 08/14/2006 9:54:20 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (I can't beat em but I ain't joining them either.)
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To: claudiustg

What makes you say that?


27 posted on 08/14/2006 9:54:22 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: WVNan

A lot of Christians were run off. Let's see how many expats go back. However, The geography of Lebanon is not defensible. Without Christians, the territory would be part of Syria.


28 posted on 08/14/2006 9:58:40 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ping jockey

The last I checked we made the Saudis send aid.


29 posted on 08/14/2006 10:04:50 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ClaireSolt

What makes me say the Lebanese are the authors of their own misfortune?

There's no way all that armament got into the country without the Lebanese government knowing all about it. And there is no way in a country that size that the Lebanese people would not know all about the build up in the south. Did they think they'd never get the bill?

Did you see this?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1683139/posts


30 posted on 08/14/2006 10:10:09 PM PDT by claudiustg (Equivalence is depravity.)
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To: Thombo2
"Hezbollah Victory?Says who?"

Anyone with brains!

The Israeli's still have not had the return of their Solders.

Condi Rice is another Neville Chamberlain; we will see more deaths in the future caused by this agreement. Syria and Iran are still running the show. What a farce!
31 posted on 08/14/2006 10:19:51 PM PDT by olinr
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To: claudiustg
Thanks, I enjoyued reading that. I hope people like him are ready to put a cork in the wine bottle and roll up their sleeves. They ae getting a lot more help than they might deserve.

something that irks me is the bit about 2 soldier repeated again. He accuratley says, "And if attacking a sovereign nation on its territory, assassinating eight of its soldiers, kidnapping two others and, simultaneously, launching missiles on nine of its towns does not constitute a casus belli, the latter juridical principle will seriously need revising."

32 posted on 08/14/2006 10:28:56 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ClaireSolt

I wish I could find the article, but there was a story earlier with a cabinet level Lebanese official saying that Hezbollah fighters were welcome to join the Lebanese Army. They might as well just blow up their own buildings then! It would save a lot of trouble.


33 posted on 08/14/2006 10:42:37 PM PDT by claudiustg (Equivalence is depravity.)
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To: WaterDragon
Tactically Israel took ground and inflicted losses......strategically Israel achieved diddly. Iran (and their Chinese handlers) are the winner, the face of the Mid East has changed for the worse.....this party is just starting.
34 posted on 08/14/2006 10:51:19 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: All
on the plus side
God forbid they try & kill us all
- they will starve to death
serves 'em right. You cant run an empire with a skeleton crew of libs.
35 posted on 08/15/2006 1:11:20 AM PDT by graced (some people are just unharvested free-range soylent green)
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Got to save it up for Iran folks...

BOOYAH!

36 posted on 08/15/2006 1:15:45 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: Thombo2
Hezbollah Victory?Says who?The msm?

Michael Reagan said it. No soldiers returned and Hesbollah is still armed and shooting rockets.
37 posted on 08/15/2006 2:10:51 AM PDT by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: carumba

This is called leverage. John Bolton talked all along of two resolutions. That keeps everyone engaged, and keeps the UN from thinking they can go back to raping African girls or something.


38 posted on 08/15/2006 4:41:19 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Rokke

Like the Democrats, the Hezzies declared a "moral victory."

Well as we like to say to those who think that moral victories mean something, "isn't that special?"


39 posted on 08/15/2006 5:53:39 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Kill all the lawyers? No, kill all the politicans.)
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To: WaterDragon

Only the Junk media could believe Democrats or terrorists think win "moral victories" by getting their butts kicked.

But of course the Freeper Sack Cloth and Ashes crowd would rather have a new excuse whine endlessly then hear reality.


40 posted on 08/15/2006 8:37:53 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (History shows us that if you are not willing to fight, you better be prepared to die)
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