Border group's finances a secret (Simcox-Minuteman)

The Washington Times ^ | 8-15-2006 | Jerry Seper

[Anti-Bubba182]

A Texas firm that manages hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations to the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps says it has not been authorized to divulge a detailed accounting of the funds, despite assurances by the MCDC's top official that it would do so.

Maureen E. Otis -- president of American Caging Inc. in Stafford, Texas, an agency hired to collect, deposit and disburse donations to the civilian border-patrol group -- told The Washington Times that neither MCDC President Chris Simcox nor the group's board of directors had given her permission to "disclose any numbers."

Mr. Simcox, who has been criticized by current and former MCDC members for a lack of leadership and financial accountability, had referred The Times to Mrs. Otis, saying she could "tell you everything" to clear up the concerns.

Instead, Mrs. Otis issued a statement saying only that all Minuteman donations have been "securely collected, counted and deposited" in MCDC bank accounts.

Telephone calls to Mr. Simcox in Phoenix, where he reportedly is on paternity leave, were routed to Minuteman spokeswoman Connie Hair in Virginia, who said the organization was not going to release "any unaudited numbers." She said that an audit will be completed in November and that any release of figures prior to that "is just not going to happen......."

[MikefromOhio]

If you did, then ask Mr. Simcox. If you didn't then it's none of your business where it is.

It's everyone's business. They are the one publicly asking for the funds. They are the ones who are tied to the entire Right Wing, i.e. conservative wing of American politics. If they are cooking the books, lying or otherwise committing some sort of malfesance, it's an issue for EVERYONE who is a conservative.

I know this will go completely over your head, so just ask me where my cancelled check is and get it over with kook.

[Petronski]

If you didn't the fence is none of your business.

If he hadn't contributed to a fraud, it would still be his business (as a member of the public), because fraud is a crime.

[BigSkyFreeper]

Did you write a check to help pay for it?

Nope.

If you didn't the fence is none of your business.

Stop with the BS'ing.

[Lurker]

WHERE'S THE FENCE?

Did you give money to help build a fence?

If so, I suggest you retain counsel and sue. If not, the fence or lack there of is none of your business.

Unless of course you're a liberal who believes everything is his business...

Now, why do you insist on keeping your finances a secret?

When will you publish an accounting?

L

[Petronski]

Did you give money to help build a fence?

If a fraud occurs, it is my business (whether or not I have contributed), because fraud is a crime.

[Petronski]

Now, why do you insist on keeping your finances a secret?

As I have never solicited funds from the public for a promised purpose, I would have no reason to publicize my finances.

For asking that idiotic question over and over, L, you are no more than a petty troll.

[MikefromOhio]

Did you give money to help build a fence?

since when is that a requirement to worry about another entities finances? They are public, they are in the public domain asking for donations, it's anyone's business who asks. If you don't like that, take it up with them.

If so, I suggest you retain counsel and sue. If not, the fence or lack there of is none of your business.

I think your legal advice is full of holes since you are so clearly trying to carry MCDC's water for them.

Unless of course you're a liberal who believes everything is his business...

Please look up public domain whenever you would like please....

Now, why do you insist on keeping your finances a secret?

Let's see here, private citizen vs. Public advocacy group. Nah I don't see a difference there!!!! Ya know, Enron should've been able to keep THEIR BOOKS closed too. Yeah that's it!!

When will you publish an accounting?

How much is MCDC paying you to put up this smokescreen for them??

[Lurker]

Stop with the BS'ing.

You lack what is known in legal parlance as "standing" my good man.

What Mr. Simcox has done with these funds is legally speaking none of your business. You have no more right to demand an accounting from him than he does from you.

If you wish to call him a fraud, you can do that. But you should be aware that doing so could conceivably subject you to a libel suit.

So if you have evidence of criminal activity you'd be well advised to bring it to the attention of the proper authorities. If you don't, you'd be well advised to be very, very careful about what you post in a public forum.

L

[Petronski]

Please tell us about your legal degree.

[BigSkyFreeper]

You have no more right to demand an accounting from him than he does from you.

Sure I do. His organization is not a private entity.

So if you have evidence of criminal activity you'd be well advised to bring it to the attention of the proper authorities. If you don't, you'd be well advised to be very, very careful about what you post in a public forum.

Likewise I'm sure.

[MikefromOhio]

Did you get your legal degree from the same cracker jack box as Bill Clinton???

[MikefromOhio]

So if you have evidence of criminal activity you'd be well advised to bring it to the attention of the proper authorities.

What? BSF isn't legally obligated to notify the authorities but I am? LOL!!!

[c-b 1]

Thanks for the update!

I was going to stir things up, but I don't have time, I've got to get my gear in order for my shift on the border tomorrow night.

[Lurker]

since when is that a requirement to worry about another entities finances?

Since about 400 years ago bright boy. It's called Common Law. You might want to look into it.

it's anyone's business who asks

Have you ever even seen a lawyer on TV?

I think your legal advice is full of holes

I'm not giving legal advice.

Please look up public domain whenever you would like please....

Public domain refers to material uncovered by Copyright laws. Ask the owner of the forum about it. He's far more educated on the subject than you obviously are.

Let's see here, private citizen vs. Public advocacy group. Nah I don't see a difference there!!!! Ya know, Enron should've been able to keep THEIR BOOKS closed too. Yeah that's it

Enron was a Corporation which sold shares. Once again I'll refer you to a couple hundred years of Common Law on the subject. Do get back to us when you've muddled through it.

How much is MCDC paying you to put up this smokescreen for them??

I have no affiliation with them in any way. Pointing out fools is simply a hobby of mine. I particularly enjoy it when the object makes it easy for me.

I thank you for that.

L

[BigSkyFreeper]

You lack what is known in legal parlance as "standing" my good man.

Your lack of answering a simple question is what we mere citizens call, "tapdancing around the issue".

[EternalVigilance]

Thanks for all you're doing.

[Lurker]

His organization is not a private entity.

Has he sold shares?

L

[Petronski]

You're not a lawyer, nor have you obtained an accredited J.D. degree.

It's quite obvious.

[MikefromOhio]

Has he sold shares?

They have to sell shares to be public in your eyes? LMAO!!!

[Petronski]

Poor "L" is has really become quite embarrassing to herself.

It's to sad for me to LOL, so I'll just CS.