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Hizbullah likely to retain its weapons in s. Lebanon
The Jerusalem Post ^ | August 15, 2006 | By JPOST.COM STAFF AND AP

Posted on 08/15/2006 1:18:47 AM PDT by garbageseeker

not hand over its weapons to the Lebanese government but rather refrain from exhibiting them publicly, according to a new compromise that is reportedly brewing between Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Seniora and Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah.

The UN cease-fire resolution specifically demands the demilitarization of the area south of the Litani river. The resolution was approved by the Lebanese cabinet.

In a televised address on Monday night, Nasrallah declared that now was not the time to debate the disarmament of his guerrilla fighters, saying the issue should be done in secret sessions of the government to avoid serving Israeli interests.

"This is immoral, incorrect and inappropriate," he said. "It is wrong timing on the psychological and moral level particularly before the cease-fire," he said in reference to calls from critics for the guerrillas to disarm.

Lebanese media reported that the Cabinet was sharply divided over demands that Hizbullah surrender its weapons in the south.

Lebanon's industry minister, Pierre Jemayel, a member of a majority anti-Syrian bloc in parliament, told Al-Siyassah daily, "Hizbullah has to deliver its weapons to the Lebanese army, and its light weapons to the police."

"Its fighters are welcome to join the military force and the state will then quickly regain control of all Lebanese territories."

"I'm not telling Hizbullah to surrender its weapons to Israel, or to the international community," Jemayel told the daily. "(I am telling it) to surrender them to the Lebanese army."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; beirut; fuadseniora; hezbollah; hizbullah; lebanon
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1 posted on 08/15/2006 1:18:49 AM PDT by garbageseeker
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To: garbageseeker
Lebanon needs to change it's name to Hezbolland
2 posted on 08/15/2006 1:22:17 AM PDT by lula ( Islam IS the Anti-Christ)
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To: garbageseeker

"but rather refrain from exhibiting them publicly"

This may be the first time you find liberals defending a "concealed carry" law!!


3 posted on 08/15/2006 1:23:34 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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LOL.


4 posted on 08/15/2006 1:24:10 AM PDT by garbageseeker (Wars may be fought by weapons, but they are won by men.- General George Patton)
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To: the_Watchman
This may be the first time you find liberals defending a "concealed carry" law!!

No, actually they were always for criminals conceling weapons, they just don't want law abiding citzens to be armed.

5 posted on 08/15/2006 1:34:07 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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I cannot believe this is happening


6 posted on 08/15/2006 1:48:03 AM PDT by garbageseeker (Wars may be fought by weapons, but they are won by men.- General George Patton)
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To: garbageseeker
Lebanon's industry minister, Pierre Jemayel, a member of a majority anti-Syrian bloc in parliament, told Al-Siyassah daily, "Hizbullah has to deliver its weapons to the Lebanese army, and its light weapons to the police."

"Its fighters are welcome to join the military force and the state will then quickly regain control of all Lebanese territories."

This guy may be part of the anit-Syrian bloc, but who does he think is involved with the Hezbollah members? He's going to find his country's military heavily infiltrated with Syrian and Iranian loyalists, if it's not already. The biggest thing the Lebanese had going for them in this conflict was the distinction Israel made between Hezbollah and the Lebanese govt/armed forces. Incorporate the Hezzies into your forces and all bets are off when they attack Israel again......and they will.

7 posted on 08/15/2006 2:15:27 AM PDT by edpc (Violence is ALWAYS a solution. Maybe not the right one....but a solution nonetheless)
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To: lula

HEZBOLLAHLAND! Very Good! George Bush doesn't get it on Hezbollah, I am afraid!

Now that the smoke has cleared in Lebanon and Israel, let’s asses quickly the situation.

Israel had two major goals: get rid of Hezbollah's rockets and get rid of Hezbollah. It is unclear they have achieved either. As of today: neither. The end depends upon the UN which has always been a tool of the US according to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. So Iran sees rough days ahead, if Ahmadinejad is to be believed.

WE tend to view the UN as opposed to the US in most cases and ineffective in almost all. The record of UNIFIL was disastrous. They “monitored” the area “between” Israel and Hezbollah for the last 28 years; allowing Hezbollah to dig in and arm up.

So is Hezbollah disabled or without the rockets? The day before the “cease fire” went into effect Hezbollah launched 250 rockets into Israel. There are Hezbollah rockets still in Lebanon, and if little gremlins move them northward and out of the zone to be monitored by the UN in the next few days would you be surprised?

And will Hezbollah “disappear”? Hey, they are the people of southern Lebanon. They aren’t going anywhere! And they are financed and armed by Syria and Iran. What has changed that? Some paperwork in New York? Syria and Iran bet on an unknown and now see that unknown as a winner. They’ll double the bet.

Hassan Nasrallah, the Hezbollah leader, emerged from the shadows of a leader before the with a strong but limited following within Lebanon to become, in just over a month, one of the more important political figures of Lebanon and one of the leaders of the Arab world’s radical wing.

Before the war, Hassan Nasrallah was the one who made sure the garbage went out, the aged were cared for, there were schools for the children.

During the war Hassan Nasrallah, as seen by Arabs, is the man who faced down Israel and the Great Satan.

Before this war, few respected moderates in Beirut or in the greater Arab world paid much attention to Nasrallah. Now his stock has soared. He is the darling of the man on the Arab street for not just keeping his forces in the field for more than thirty days with the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) but by apparently winning.

By appearing almost daily on al-Manar (translated: "The Beacon," the name of Hezbollah TV), al-Jazeera and al-Arabiya TV during the conflict saying, "We have not been harmed," Nasrallah made himself the most important face of the war, eclipsing everyone in the governments of Israel and Lebanon.

The degree of lasting political clout Hassan Nasrallah and Hezbollah have gained remains to be seen. But there is a gain, not a loss.

There will be another war or more wars. Most everyone on both sides of the border believes that.

And the people of Israel are in shock. The respected IDF did not achieve a grand sweep of the enemy: an outcome Israelis have come to expect. The Prime Minister is taking tremendous heat in the media. We can expect him to be defeated politically before long. He didn’t allow the foreign minister to go to the UN; signaling a major rift in the government during the war. A few generals have already been pushed aside and probably more to follow.

The “Shock and Awe” promised by the Israeli Air Force did not ruin Hezbollah or the rockets: only the Lebanese infrastructure. This means every Lebanese man woman and child blames Israel (not Hezbollah).

The International community needs to play a large role in the reconstruction of Lebanon. Already damage estimates top $2B. If Hezbollah is allowed to lead the reconstruction effort, the hearts and minds of the Lebanese (and a lot of other Arabs) will be forever lost to the west.


http://extendedremarks.blogspot.com/2006_08_02_extendedremarks_archive.html


8 posted on 08/15/2006 2:18:08 AM PDT by John Carey
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To: garbageseeker
I cannot believe this is happening

I can. This isn't the first time Israel has had it's hands tied by the world body, but it's the first time (at least in my mind) Israel has been run by an ineffectual leader.

9 posted on 08/15/2006 2:32:55 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: John Carey

" The International community needs to play a large role in the reconstruction of Lebanon. "



if by 'International' they mean Iran and Syria, I agree


10 posted on 08/15/2006 2:55:05 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: garbageseeker

This violates their agreement, makes null the section on permanent ceasesfire.

This of course was expected.

The difference now is that the government of Lebanon will violate what it agreed to do in order to achieve the ceasefire it said it wanted.

And the key in the next few weeks is how Israel handles the abbrogation of the agreement.


11 posted on 08/15/2006 3:09:46 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: garbageseeker

Let them keep their small arms , but the least Lebanon could do is go in and take the missiles and destroy them on the spot. Of course that wont happen. The whole thing is n Arab farce.


12 posted on 08/15/2006 3:30:00 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: garbageseeker
Sooo, is there a pool going regarding how long it will be before the IDF slaps the Hezzbo's again?
If so, put me down for September 18th.
13 posted on 08/15/2006 4:00:49 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73
This is clearly a breach of the cease fire agreement
14 posted on 08/15/2006 4:36:41 AM PDT by man from mars
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To: garbageseeker

I can believe it. For the life of me, I don't understand how the whole world shakes in their boots regarding Islamic terrorists. We have the capability to take them all out permenantly, yet we don't. They know we won't. Like I said before, they use our humanity against us. They kill and maim with impunity, women, children, the elderly. They put bomb belts on their own children and it's a day of celebration. Yet we are paralized with fear at the thought of a "civilian" getting killed in the crossfire. That's why the human shields are so effective.


15 posted on 08/15/2006 4:59:49 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: garbageseeker
Hizbullah likely to retain its weapons in s. Lebanon

I'm shocked, SHOCKED, I tell ya! Who knew!!??




/sarc
16 posted on 08/15/2006 5:08:13 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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17 posted on 08/15/2006 6:02:56 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: D-fendr
"...And the key in the next few weeks is how Israel handles the abrogation of the agreement."


Perhaps Israel does need to move because if they don't respond like their existence depends on it they're going to be cooked.
18 posted on 08/15/2006 6:38:46 AM PDT by mcshot ("If it ain't broke it doesn't have enough features." paraphrased anon.)
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To: garbageseeker
Hezbollah is not going to disarm. Olmert and Peretz handed Israel the worst defeat in its history. And not only is Hezbollah going to be rearmed, they didn't even bring the boys home. And they deserve to continue in office? Oy, vey!

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo!)

19 posted on 08/15/2006 6:40:38 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: garbageseeker

Olmsted: "Hezbollah has been Defeated"
Chamberlain: "Peace in our time"


20 posted on 08/15/2006 6:41:57 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
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