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Why Liberals Refuse to Admit the Reality of Islamic Fascism
Human Events ^ | August 15,2006 | Rabbi Aryeh Spero

Posted on 08/15/2006 8:59:06 PM PDT by Reagan Man

Blind animus for President Bush is insufficient to explain liberals' refusal to acknowledge the reality of a cruel and imperialistic jihadist push worldwide. Nor is it simply liberals' unwillingness to work with Republicans and conservatives that render them incapable of serious and active participation in the War on Terror. It is that by so doing, liberals would be forced to upend the world view and social philosophies that have animated them since the early '60s.

At stake is their identity as individuals, what they do, what they believe, the need for their journals, indeed their sense of moral superiority and their hierarchy in society and policy making. Worse for them, their whole social milieu is dependent on maintaining the artificial and cocooned world they have created for themselves. The philosophic underpinnings of “their world” are frontally challenged by this new jihadist reality, one that cannot be controlled, maneuvered or finessed by their propositions of how life works. It is much more convenient to deny jihad’s eagerness to kill us all, including them, than to deconstruct the ersatz world they have built for themselves.

As with those in the mid-1800s unwilling to accept the transformation from an agricultural era to the new era of industrialization, most elitist liberals refuse to admit the reality of the new jihadist era since it makes irrelevant the entrenched ideas upon which they have grown rich and sassy for the last half century. At stake is their status. It is similar to the advent of the early automobile period when buggy-whip manufacturers would not reconcile themselves to a new reality rendering what they did outdated and unnecessary.

Jihadism is not a reaction to American, Israeli or Australian foreign policy. It is organic, a conventional and historic reading of the Koran as understood by many imams. Jihad is one of Islam’s authentic traditions, predating the birth of America and Israel. They seek to conquer, to create a global Islamic caliphate. Our survival depends on their defeat, total defeat. This will be accomplished not by the professional negotiators and liberal sociologists but by the force of an army, a courageous and unfettered military.

Those schooled in the liberal “it’s society’s fault” outlook when pontificating on domestic crime have for decades proclaimed “it’s America’s fault” when evaluating every atrocity found worldwide. Liberals “understand”!

To acknowledge the peculiarity of the jihadist reality undermines those in the “understanding” business. They are, now, antiquated and counterproductive, since it is not their assumptions that anymore matter but the generals and the fighting man. Liberals would rather deny truth than forfeit their heretofore prominent position at the decision table.

The fanciful and “smart” musings of Thomas Friedman and the New York Times set are valid only if jihadists are morphed into your routine troublemakers placate-able with a concession here and there. There is no serious place for liberal negotiators such as Judith Kipper and some of the smarmy know-it-alls at the Council of Foreign Relations unless the true unyielding nature and goal of Islamofascism is denied. Their journals, writings, royalties, and center of attention among the chattering class depends upon treating jihadism as something “to be reasoned with,” when it is clearly not.

Many of today’s powerful and boisterous liberals are wealthy and university schooled and consider themselves “the nice people,” sensitive, morally superior, smarter, and above such things as war. This is their identity, the passport to their social fraternity. They have constructed above-it-all lives, fashioning a sub-culture beyond the reach of life’s messiness. They live as if everything were predictable and within their control. Through negotiation, life is risk-free.

To acknowledge the true face of Islamofascism and its aims would mean having to concede the necessity of phone surveillance, tough interrogation, common sense profiling, a reliance on the CIA and a strong military -- all things they were taught to disdain. Better to deny reality than relinquish the badges and accoutrements of their internalized identity as “superior.” Besides, how un-cosmopolitan and un-transnational to be in the corner of America, especially when anti-Americanism is cool and fashionable, indeed today’s facile path to liberal “worldliness”.

Some of this crowd are, by nature, cowards and appeasers, brazen only when taking on people and institutions they know will never harm them, such as Bible-believing Christians, President Bush, and the American military. Ken Roth of Human Rights Watch, for example, and other “human rights” imposters have grown celebrated and well-funded by establishing a set of official guidelines for what is permissible for Western powers during war. But their central motivation is to emasculate the strength of the West to win an armed conflict.

Everything, if carried out by the forces of freedom, constitutes, in Roth’s view, a human rights violation. In an article he published two weeks ago, he unearthed an international law “interpretation” that made illegal just about anything Israel chose in defense of its territory and citizens -- as he has done all along in America’s War on Terror. His message to Israel and America: Lose.

As with the Nazis and Communists before, Roth and cohorts are using an elaborate set of legalities to outlaw and subdue those wishing to remain free when fighting those wishing to rule over them. They are outlawing our defense of ourselves. Many “enlightened” liberals wishing to control our fate quote him because it provides them the “moral” tools with which to stymie our efforts. This is made possible only by minimizing the true threat of jihadism and accusing America of being the creator of and fueling the jihadist movement. No doubt, CBS’s Mike Wallace, Ahmadinjad’s new admirer, falls in this category.

Anti-Semitism also plays a role. Those on the left not wishing the state of Israel well, and those who do not like Jews, are reluctant to side with the anti-jihadists. To do so, they must first cast them not as jihadists ideologically and theologically hell-bent on destroying the West and Christians but simply as an aggrieved group of Moslems whose grievances should be redressed and placated. I am sure that Father Coughlin and Charles Lindbergh loved America, but their dislike for Jews was overriding and made them declare that Hitler could be reasoned with.

Deliberate delusion born of self-interest; ignoring reality out of self-importance; the inability of relics “in the know” to renounce what is no longer true; selfishness over love of country: All of these are reprehensible character traits. When practiced by too many, a civilization dies.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: islamicnazis; liberalism; lostdems; waronterror; wot
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1 posted on 08/15/2006 8:59:07 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man

Good article.

Thanks for posting.


2 posted on 08/15/2006 9:04:35 PM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: EternalHope

This is so right on the target, perfect. I have lost most of my friends in this category because I dare challenge their quasi-religious self delusion on this, the most important issue of our time.


3 posted on 08/15/2006 9:08:17 PM PDT by PC99
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To: Reagan Man

Because they hate America and everything about it.


4 posted on 08/15/2006 9:09:40 PM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: Reagan Man

It's so true-
"Deliberate delusion born of self-interest; ignoring reality out of self-importance"

Libs are still stuck in high school trying to get the most votes for Student Council, or the Miss Popularity award, it seems.


5 posted on 08/15/2006 9:10:28 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: Reagan Man

bump for later


6 posted on 08/15/2006 9:12:57 PM PDT by goodnesswins ( The Dems are so far to the left they have left America.)
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To: Reagan Man

Best article I have read in along while detaling what is happening to American common sense.

"They are outlawing our defense of ourselves. Many “enlightened” liberals wishing to control our fate quote him because it provides them the “moral” tools with which to stymie our efforts."

Defending America is too "messy". Perfect fit for the a**holes crying about the war in this country,


7 posted on 08/15/2006 9:13:02 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: Reagan Man

Great article. A keeper for my library. Thanks for posting. The Rabii really hits the nail on the head.


8 posted on 08/15/2006 9:13:17 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Reagan Man
For me, the liberals fail to acknowledge 3 simple facts.

1) Afghanistan was a US Victory.

2) Iraq was a US Victory.

4) They are both part of the War On Terror.

9 posted on 08/15/2006 9:15:38 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: stinkerpot65

so what we've been told that they are a religion of peace is wrong. (like I didn't know that already).


10 posted on 08/15/2006 9:16:21 PM PDT by television is just wrong (our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Reagan Man

Who is this guy? He's pretty awesome.


11 posted on 08/15/2006 9:17:14 PM PDT by CAWats (And I will make no distinction between terrorists and the democrats.)
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To: Reagan Man
Many of today’s powerful and boisterous liberals are wealthy and university schooled and consider themselves “the nice people,” sensitive, morally superior, smarter, and above such things as war.

They have lost the working man but the blue collar crowd has shrunk in size such that the Reagan Democrats are largely gone. The Union crowd called the Lace Curtain Liberal Artsy Fartsy Liberals. They have no idea of the real world.

They used to complain about America's support of brutal dictatorships just because they were anticommunist. It was a valid critique in my opinion. Bush has put forth a moral foreign policy promoting democracy. Well, these jerks hate this even worse than the support for Marcos or Batista.

While they call for understanding of other cultures (which I support), they will not evaluate those cultures based on widely accepted values or their ability to "get along" with others. Only America is to be tolerant, other countries have "legitimate grievances" and need not tolerate anyone disagreeing with them.

This is surely a screwball world.

12 posted on 08/15/2006 9:19:50 PM PDT by JimSEA ( "The purpose of diplomacy is to prolong a crisis." Spock)
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To: Reagan Man
I think that the husband and wife who were arrested in the foiled recent UK terror plots actually conceived their child as a part of the plot. They were going to smuggle the explosives onboard the aircraft in the child's bottle and had the baby to further the plan. Considering that the plot had been under planning for a considerable amount of time both parents must have known about the use of the baby from the beginning. How to you placate or compromise with people like that?
13 posted on 08/15/2006 9:21:52 PM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: Reagan Man

When practiced by too many, a civilization dies.

Unfortunately, the psychosis documented here is practiced by a shade less than 50% of us. And growing. We will never solve the problem with these people around. They will deny the threat until the moment they are beheaded. To them, surrender is preferable to self-defense.


14 posted on 08/15/2006 9:22:27 PM PDT by rbg81 (1)
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To: Reagan Man
To acknowledge the peculiarity of the jihadist reality undermines those in the “understanding” business. They are, now, antiquated and counterproductive, since it is not their assumptions that anymore matter but the generals and the fighting man. Liberals would rather deny truth than forfeit their heretofore prominent position at the decision table.

Yes, I think this is the problem--the "understanding" business. But the author fails to mention one of the worst offenders in the understanding business, the Jewish philosopher Martin Buber who was a resident of Israel. He embraced the "thou", the "other" as Muslim to the detriment of his own country.

15 posted on 08/15/2006 9:24:18 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: CAWats; Reagan Man

He's "America's Rabbi"

http://www.caucusforamerica.com/site.about.php


16 posted on 08/15/2006 9:34:16 PM PDT by HockeyPop
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To: PC99

I deliberately maintain positive relations with friends who are duped by the insanity of cultural elitists. I also never give an inch in my firm commitment to 2 programs that will resolve our current diffuculty. First that Islamofascists must be stopped dead in their tracks by any means necessary. Second, that a national mental health effort be mounted to heal liberals of their craziness.
My friends do not like being told they are nuts and in need of help. They each firmly belief, however, that conservatives and especially Christians are ignorant and morally inferior. In time they will understand that their hearts have been hardened against facing the truth. I want to be around when that happens to help them make the transition.


17 posted on 08/15/2006 9:34:33 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: Reagan Man; stinkerpot65
Good post. I received an e-mail today from my uncle, a WWII vet, here it is, it fits so well with this article.

"Can a good Muslim be a good American? I forwarded that question to a friend that worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years.

The following is his forwarded reply:

Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon God of Arabia.

Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)

Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran).

Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and Destruction of America, the great Satan.

Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).

Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannotco-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually - no. Because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as heavenly father, nor is he ever called 'Love' in The Quran's 99 excellent names.

Therefore after much study and deliberation.... perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country.

They obviously cannot beboth "good" Muslims and good Americans."

18 posted on 08/15/2006 9:38:32 PM PDT by IYellAtMyTV (Workday Forecast--Increasing pressure towards afternoon. Rum likely by evening.)
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To: ChadGore

I like your numbering system.


19 posted on 08/15/2006 9:38:37 PM PDT by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: PC99
This is a brilliant article. They deny Islamofascism because they have no answer for it. Unfortunately, as with Nazi Germany, they will not face it until it is powerful enough to destroy them. Beyond that, though, I wonder if many of them consider their lives or children worth defending. In France, people protested having to come off vacation during a heat wave that killed thousands of their countrymen. In most western countries, the majority of abortions are for convenience.

It reminds me of Lot, who was willing to send his daughters out to be raped and murdered, in order to avoid a confrontation with the men who wanted to break in and rape his visitors, or when Abraham pretended Sarah was not his wife, willing to give her up to protect himself. Even if they were to face the truth, would they be willing to do anything about it?

20 posted on 08/15/2006 9:43:26 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (The most important thing is sincerity. Once you can fake that, everything else is easy.)
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To: HockeyPop

Saved. Thanks.


21 posted on 08/15/2006 9:44:54 PM PDT by CAWats (And I will make no distinction between terrorists and the democrats.)
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To: Cannonette

ping


22 posted on 08/15/2006 9:45:55 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Coming to you live from Hesco City)
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To: Reagan Man
Correct about the basic issue, but a bit off on details of their motives and world view, above all about how deep it goes, how much is at stake for them etc.

They are deeply invested in the idea that morality is a crock, a con job, a way decent ordinary people are manipulated by unscrupulous tyrants from the dark ages. See, soldiers who actually believe in honor are to them just fools. Sacrificing oneself for one's country is obscene - no country is worth it and the things one actually does are wrong rather than right. All harsh constraint, all discipline, all necessity - they are just ways of trying to get the unwashed many to do some poohbah's dirty work.

See, as soon as one has bought that piece of easy going cynicism, life is so much easier all the way around. One is morally superior to every striving saint or hero simply because one has seen through the sham and does not try. One is wise when self indulgant. One never has to do anything or even to accept anything as true or existing, that one does not want - because one can always allege that it is a mere allegation to manipulate you. Sass is the only remaining virtue - to decide for oneself, based on what feels good right this instant, and to tell off everyone trying to tell you anything. Stopped up ears deliver an effortless liberty, inward imagination delivers achievement. Every failing is somebody else's fault, some "man" trying to con people, and all we have to do is be on to it and not go along.

What would be involved in giving that up? First, there would be urgent tasks that are matters of duty. Frivilous pursuits would be morally disreputable. There would be better and worse people in the world, objectively. Things could be legitimately asked of citizens by authorities. War would be a natural part of the human condition instead of an obscene aberrration and fit of madness, to be merely run from and screamed against. Dangers would have to be faced rather than avoided. Those one has been bad mouthing for most of one's life would be wronged parties, and guilt would be justified rather than a hangup to get over.

Fundamentally, they are fleeing the responsibilities of it all, because fleeing responsibilities and calling on others to flee from their responsibilities, termed "liberation" by those peddling it, is what they have been about for - oh about 300 years.

23 posted on 08/15/2006 9:45:59 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Reagan Man

inspirational and prophetic analysis and worth passing on.


24 posted on 08/15/2006 9:46:57 PM PDT by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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To: Reagan Man

I skimmed it quick, but it deserves a word-for-word read. Excellent post, Reagan Man. BTTT and bookmark for later.


25 posted on 08/15/2006 9:47:22 PM PDT by Chena ("I'm not young enough to know everything." (Oscar Wilde))
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You go, Rabbi!


26 posted on 08/15/2006 9:47:49 PM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Reagan Man
Outstanding post.

An excellent read, thanks for posting it.

Cheers,

knewshound

Latest article; Flooding the Zone; The coming war against Israel
27 posted on 08/15/2006 9:48:11 PM PDT by knews_hound (Driving Liberals nuts since 1975 !)
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To: Reagan Man
Jihadism is not a reaction to American, Israeli or Australian foreign policy. It is organic, a conventional and historic reading of the Koran as understood by many imams. Jihad is one of Islam’s authentic traditions, predating the birth of America and Israel. They seek to conquer, to create a global Islamic caliphate.

Precisely! It doesn't matter one whit if we 'accept' them, or give in to their demands in the Middle East. They'll still come for us, because that's what they believe they SHOULD do.

28 posted on 08/15/2006 9:49:50 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Richard Kimball

I'm reminded of those elitist Hellenistic loving Jews who were willing to give away their birthright along with that of their "unwashed" coreligionists who refused to do so. Fortunately the Macabees took care of it in battle known today as Hanukah


29 posted on 08/15/2006 9:53:08 PM PDT by HockeyPop
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To: Reagan Man
Deliberate delusion born of self-interest; ignoring reality out of self-importance; the inability of relics “in the know” to renounce what is no longer true; selfishness over love of country: All of these are reprehensible character traits. When practiced by too many, a civilization dies.

This is an outstanding article which I have bookmarked. The last paragraph especially caught my eye because it mirrors narcissism, a growing epidemic among those so-aptly described in other parts of this fantastic piece.

30 posted on 08/15/2006 9:57:19 PM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: Reagan Man
When practiced by too many, a civilization dies.

*sigh*...wonder what the definite number for 'too many' is...I am fearful, and very disheartened... almost half our country's population is already there.

31 posted on 08/15/2006 9:58:35 PM PDT by top 2 toe red (To the enemy in Iraq..."Don't bet on American politics forcing my hand!" President Bush)
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To: parisa

ping


32 posted on 08/15/2006 10:06:51 PM PDT by parisa
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To: Kryptonite
I disagree with the author's idea that liberals are truly anti-semitic. Being against Israel is just like being against Bush. Rather than having to face the fact that Muslims are on the attack and what that implies for their worldview, it is easier to hate the "troublemaker".

If Israel didn't exist, the problem would go away and they wouldn't have to deal with it. If Bush weren't President, liberals believe none of this terrorism would be taking place. I'm sure they believe that if a dem is elected in 2008, that terrorism will cease to exist.

33 posted on 08/15/2006 10:10:41 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: EternalHope

What is sad is that liberals treat conservatives worse than they would an actual terrorist. Maybe we should call the terrorist Republicans and then the left would deal with them.


34 posted on 08/15/2006 10:11:11 PM PDT by art_rocks
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To: Reagan Man
Some of this crowd are, by nature, cowards and appeasers, brazen only when taking on people and institutions they know will never harm them, such as Bible-believing Christians, President Bush, and the American military.

Great sentence, one of my biggest pet peeves about the DUmmmie types.

35 posted on 08/15/2006 10:15:10 PM PDT by lawnguy (Give me some of your tots!!!)
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To: Reagan Man

This Rabbi decribes democrats and RINOS, Greens, and a host of other groups.. PERFECTLY...


36 posted on 08/15/2006 10:17:18 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: Reagan Man

Liberals NEVER EVER place any blame on the terrorists themselves. They ALWAYS blame the US and Israel for driving the peaceful muslims into terrorizing:

The US, Britain, Israel, India, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Lebanon, Russia, Australia, Canada, Italy, Singapore, the Philippines, Indonesia, Nigeria, Kenya, Thailand, Spain, Macedonia, Bangladesh, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, France, Germany, Uzbekistan, Gaza, Tunisia, Kosovo, Bosnia, Somalia, Algeria, Tanzania, Sri Lanka, Denmark, Sudan, Jordan, Holland, Greece...etc


37 posted on 08/15/2006 10:19:28 PM PDT by red state girl (never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never)
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To: Reagan Man

Excellent article. He sums up the current state of liberalism, very well.


38 posted on 08/15/2006 10:22:34 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: ops33
I think that the husband and wife who were arrested in the foiled recent UK terror plots actually conceived their child as a part of the plot.

I've said that very same thing...and you know that you and I are not the only ones to think this...so, why on earth would they cave immediately to the protests of,"What no baby formula allowed on flights?!?"...and say, "Well, OK, baby formula and meds we'll allow." {{{shaking my head in disbelief}}}

How to you placate or compromise with people like that?

It's impossible...to the rest of us it is totally unimaginable that 'people' can think this way. Just incomprehensible.

39 posted on 08/15/2006 10:24:03 PM PDT by top 2 toe red (To the enemy in Iraq..."Don't bet on American politics forcing my hand!" President Bush)
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To: Dianna

I agree. He doesn't make a strong case on that point, but the point he makes ought not be ignored. After my first reading the anti-semite angle is the weakest part of this piece, but the rest is very cogent.


40 posted on 08/15/2006 10:39:34 PM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: Reagan Man

Try to read later - looks really good.


41 posted on 08/15/2006 10:53:09 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: ChadGore

I agree, and I have no idea how they can't see that Iraq and Afghanistan ARE part of the war on terror.


42 posted on 08/15/2006 10:54:12 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Amos the Prophet; Reagan Man; JasonC
A couple of days ago I published the following comments in response to a Mark Steyn column in which I tried to grapple with the why of it, why do liberals willfully turned their faces from the reality of the Islamic fascist threat and court a new dark age if we succumb?

The rabbi and I both agree on the symptoms of the disease. I put the label "cultural Marxism" on the collection of symptoms which are crippling us in our efforts to fight this expert global, generational, war for existence. I also distinguish between the liberal elitists and their useful idiots, the latter class consisting of unwitting dupes who exhibit the same symptoms but for reasons that are passive rather than aggressive. The elites I see as driven by reckless ambition.

Here's my take:

All of this is a direct result of the lethal legacy of THE FRANKFURT SCHOOL which gave birth to cultural Marxism which renders the elites of the left incapable of dealing with Muslim terrorists as Muslims. This disease has infected Europe where it has spread on the continent and, as Melanie Phillips pointed out in her book, LONDONISTAN, even Great Britain suffers from a severe infection. In America, the virus is most obvious in the blue states. Nevertheless, we were only a few electoral votes in Florida and 60,000 popular votes in Ohio away from slipping down into the swamps of multiculturalism (Cultural Marxism). If that should happen, we will be hopelessly vulnerable to Muslim terrorism and perhaps even ultimate rule as a Muslim caliphate.

I am of the opinion that when Marc Steyn wrote the following it could have as aptly applied to The Cultural Marxism of the left:

"Absent a determination to throttle the ideology, we're about to witness the unraveling of the world."

We are in world war against 1.2 billion Muslims or some fanatical fraction thereof. They are maniacal, suicidal, and homicidal. They are not amenable to diplomacy, blandishment, reason, bribery or Western Enlightenment. It is a very formidable enemy.

To have any hope of winning a global, asymmetrical, and generational war with these people we must have our own house in order. We do not because we are undermined by the lethal legacy of THE FRANKFURT SCHOOL: Cultural Marxism.

Pan nationalism (which really means the absence of nationalism), anti-Americanism, feminism (anti-paternalism), atheism (anticlericalism), extreme environmentalism (especially extreme global warming), anti-racism (group victimology), homosexual activism (anti-family hatred), etc. are all excressences of Cultural Marxism. This doctrine was explicitly fashioned to break down the resistance of Western civilization to communism.

It was designed to pave the way for the acceptance of the Russian Revolution in Germany in the 1920s. In doing so it carved out areas against the Western culture which it saw as bulwarks against communism: the family, the Church, the school. Thus it was perfectly positioned at the time of the ostensible and apparent failure of communism at the time of the fall of the Berlin Wall to convert the left fully from an economic Marxism to a Cultural Marxism. That is what we have today.

I am coming to the conclusion that the elites in the left are not purblind, not the misguided victims of their own worldview, but cynical high-stakes gamblers who risk plunging themselves and us into a new dark age if it will enhance their own chances to rule. Unless one believes that the top elitists on the left genuinely do not see the threat to Western civilization posed by a Muslim theocracy, there is no other plausible explanation. After all, Muslim fundamentalists stand for everything repugnant to the left-at least on a superficial level: the belief in God; rule by theocracy; the virtual enslavement of women; repudiation of the scientific method; superstition, etc. life in such a society should be utterly insupportable to leftists. Yet they undermine the war against terrorism at every turn, they oppose the Patriot Act, they oppose international telephone surveillance, they oppose vigorous interrogation, they oppose incarceration, to list just a few. Why?

How did Lenin behave as he was taking over power in Russia? He negotiated a sellout deal for peace through appeasement with imperial Germany. Mao behaved even more scurrilously. Because of biased reporting of it is commonly believed in America that it was the Communists in China, rather than the Nationalists who were believed to be corrupt and passive, who were aggressive in fighting the Japanese in World War II. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact Mao betrayed his nationalist allies quite often to the Japanese and otherwise exploited the war to defeat the Nationalists while virtually undertaking no action against the Japanese.

At the time Mao was fully aware of the rape of Nanking and brutality which the Japanese had visited upon his people. He deliberately courted the defeat of China and subjected his fellow Chinese to further brutality in order to advance the interests of communism and especially his own personal lust for power. This was the pattern of Mao's life, Lenin's life, and Stalin's life.

I believe that the elitists on the left, not the useful idiots, are playing the same game.


43 posted on 08/15/2006 11:00:05 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: red state girl
They ALWAYS blame the US and Israel for driving the peaceful muslims into terrorizing:

Remember when the "Blame America First" crowd starts in with their blaming...it is REALLY just the conservatives, Republicans they are blaming.

If only they could purge the country of all of us...they truly believe they could just click their self righteous little heels together and no pageant contestant would ever again have to wish for world peace...because they would have already achieved it!

I live in a suburb of the ultra liberal Seattle...almost every day some ultra liberal fool has written an ultra liberal letter to the ultra liberal editor of the ultra liberal Seattle Times...saying, "I'm ashamed to be an American!"

ALWAYS! ALWAYS, this ultra liberal idiot does this {{{drumroll}}}referring to someone, something, anything conservative, Republican...George W a good 90%++++ of the time!

44 posted on 08/15/2006 11:02:35 PM PDT by top 2 toe red (To the enemy in Iraq..."Don't bet on American politics forcing my hand!" President Bush)
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To: Reagan Man

This long article could have been greatly shortened to: Liberals do not believe in the existence of evil. They believe that anyone who does bad things is simply not in touch with their inner self and that inner self is fundamentally good. Therefore, to state that Islamofascists are evil is to ignore the 'fact' that all people are good and the only reason some people do bad things is because they have not been given enough love and if all of us love enough and reach out to the people who do bad things then the people who do bad things will get in touch with their inner selves and stop doing bad things.


45 posted on 08/15/2006 11:23:00 PM PDT by hardworking
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To: nathanbedford
First, you overrate the importance of the frankfurt school, which had some cultural influence among pinhead socialists certainly, and helped peddle various ideologies to the contemporary left through the 60s or so, but was just one type out of many that all shared a complete unwillingness to blame anything about hard left thought for the disasters of the 20th century, which were systematically somebody else's fault. That somebody morphs gradually into a loose association of all capitalism (or moralism, for that matter) with fascism, that becomes more and more conspiracy-nutty-paranoid as time goes on.

"there is no other plausible explanation."

Sure, there are about a dozen. I'll give you some reports from the front about what the elite left actually thinks and believes.

"After all, Muslim fundamentalists stand for everything repugnant to the left-at least on a superficial level:"

True, but they also fight the same oppressive capitalist fascists that the left dreams it is on the point of losing to (that's the rest of us, for those in Rio Linda), which will of course plunge us into the endless dark night of fascism.

Contemporary leftists think George Bush is Hitler, that the war on terror is the new politics of fear, that mankind is being manipulated by shadowy corporate and cynical political cabals into endless war in order to perpetuate the power of those cabals, raves about the military industrial complex, diligently researches the history of Germany and the rise of fascism and reads tea leaves looking for signs it is happening here (in the US, not Iran), expects near term total economic collapse and/or hyperinflation, about half think capitalism has never actually worked and must be rotten at the bottom, another third think freedom to print money and a spread of non profit enterprise can smash the corporate oligarchy, etc.

And I am talking about hundred millionaire dot com tycoons, movie stars, full professors adn brilliant researchers - not muttering bums down at the Greyhound terminal. This is what they talk about over dessert on Nantucket after a day out on their boat, or at scientific conferences when they are unwinding in the bar after the lectures etc.

You cannot possible overrate their simple paranoia, driven by political pessimism and a pomposity that can capture light by gravitational pull. The left experiences short term loss of power to the likes of Bush and Cheney as something on the order of the fall of Rome.

46 posted on 08/15/2006 11:35:27 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: JasonC
Oh and I left out the best part. None of this is controversial. All of it may be assumed as a matter of course, and to be agreed on by everyone in polite company. It is terribly important and deeply insightful, but everyone earnestly agrees and already knows it, yes, yes, it is just like that.
47 posted on 08/15/2006 11:40:05 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Reagan Man

Excellent article. However, I think the modern Left's attachment to the idea of "multiculturalism" is also largely to blame.

The Left position on multiculturalism dismisses the possibility that one culture can be inherently superior to another and insists that all cultures are compatible. This is obviously nonsense, but the Left's belief in multiculturalism blinds its adherents to reality.


48 posted on 08/16/2006 12:00:23 AM PDT by RBroadfoot
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To: Reagan Man
Another reason liberals refuse to see the danger of Islamofascism is that they would have to deal with the first part of that word: Islam. The idea that a group of people takes their religion seriously is absurd to a liberal. It can't be possible! And thus to a liberal, it must not be so. It must be true that the Islamofascists are simply another aggrieved group seeking recompense for America's imperialistic misdeeds.

The same is true when they look at "right-wing Christians" at home. It simply can't be possible that they take their religion seriously. It must be true that they have some other nefarious motivation for the policies they seek; or they're merely "simple". (A charge that the racially sensitive liberal cannot bring against non-White Muslims!) The liberals' hostility toward religious people blinds them to the idea that religion really can motivate people and guide their actions. And since this is, at its heart, a religious war, the obvious end to such a conflict is anything but obvious to a liberal.

49 posted on 08/16/2006 12:22:05 AM PDT by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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To: IYellAtMyTV

Can a "good" Christian be a good American?:

Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost--not to a government, a leader or to "the Flag" (see: idolatry).

Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by his God except it direct all reverance towards the Father, the Son & the Holy Ghost.

Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the Ten Commandments (Thou Shalt not Kill for instance) & Gospel: "Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment." (Matthew 5:21) vs. an order from a commanding officer to do otherwise, for example).

Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to the kingdom of Heaven, which is open to all who accept God, regardless of temporal location, citizenship, or language--further, the land occupied by the United States isn't even mentioned in the Bible.

Socially - no. Because his allegiance to the Old Testament forbids him to make friends with those of a different faith, lest they attempt to convert them from the True Faith,--even to kill them.(Exodus 22:20;& others--google bible intolerance)

Politically - no. Because he must submit to their preachers (spiritual leaders), who may not agree 100% with the policies or actions of the administration in charge (be it Bush, Clinton, Reagan or Carter), or the Pope, who isn't even an American.

Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it was drafted by many who considered themselves philosophers & freethinkers.

Spiritually - no. Because to declare "one nation under God," in a pledge of allegiance to a flag amounts to idolatry.
Therefore after much study and deliberation.... perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL CHRISTIANS in this country.

They obviously cannot be both "good" Christians and good Americans."

..still reading?

The point I'd like to make here is that Christians aren't monolithic--all marching to the same step, saying & believing exactly the same things. (I could also have written that it's impossible to be a good Jew & a good American because primary loyalty is always to Israel, which is equally as absurd)

Islam isn't a cartoon drawn in broad strokes in primary colors any more than Christianity or Judaism is.


50 posted on 08/16/2006 12:23:24 AM PDT by demonrum (Loyalty to country--always. Loyalty to government--when it deserves it.--M. Twain)
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