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Irish company challenges scientists to test 'free energy' technology [Oh Yeah!]
PhysOrg.com ^ | 18 August 2006 | Staff

Posted on 08/18/2006 7:37:36 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

An Irish company threw down the gauntlet on Friday to the worldwide scientific community to test a technology it has developed that it claims produces free energy.

The company, Steorn (http://www.steorn.net), says its discovery is based on the interaction of magnetic fields and allows the production of clean, free and constant energy -- a concept that challenges one of the basic rules of physics.

It claims the technology can be used to supply energy for virtually all devices, from mobile phones to cars.

Steorn issued its challenge through an advertisement in the Economist magazine this week quoting Ireland's Nobel prize-winning author George Bernard Shaw who said that "all great truths begin as blasphemies".

Sean McCarthy, Steorn's chief executive officer, said they had issued the challenge for 12 physicists to rigorously test the technology so it can be developed.

"What we have developed is a way to construct magnetic fields so that when you travel round the magnetic fields, starting and stopping at the same position, you have gained energy," McCarthy said.

"The energy isn't being converted from any other source such as the energy within the magnet. It's literally created. Once the technology operates it provides a constant stream of clean energy," he told Ireland's RTE radio.

McCarthy said Steorn had not set out to develop the technology, but "it actually fell out of another project we were working on".

One of the basic principles of physics is that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, it can only change form.

McCarthy said a big obstacle to overcome was the disbelief that what they had developed was even possible.

"For the first six months that we looked at it we literally didn't believe it ourselves. Over the last three years it had been rigorously tested in our own laboratories, in independent laboratories and so on," he said.

"But we have been unable to get significant scientific interest in it. We have had scientists come in, test it and, off the record, they are quite happy to admit that it works.

"But for us to be able to commercialise this and put this into peoples' lives we need credible, academic validation in the public domain and hence the challenge," McCarthy said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: crackpot; energy; ireland; perpetualmotion
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To: Check_Your_Premises

Wha? C'mon? Whaddaya mean?


41 posted on 08/18/2006 8:10:08 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Eagles Talon IV
Perhaps what they have done is run the primary energy source produced, through an inverse phase re combiner. This would permit the generated energy to be transmogrified and fused with the refracted binary containment field which is a by product of the magnetic mega phase re capacitor and thereby transfused and increased by the actions of the previously mentioned inverse phase re combiner.

That's just what I was thinking! /s

42 posted on 08/18/2006 8:10:28 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: PatrickHenry

Well, like I always say, "Not only are a fool and his money soon parted, but a fool and his money SHOULD be parted, because there is nothing more dangerous than a fool with money"


43 posted on 08/18/2006 8:10:37 AM PDT by Lekker 1 (("Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau" - I. Fisher, Yale Econ Prof, 1929))
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To: SampleMan
How can space probes etc. use planets to slingshot to a higher speed

Planets are not standing still. They can be used to pull the probe along.

Gravitational Slingshot

44 posted on 08/18/2006 8:10:51 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: PatrickHenry
If one supposes this is legit, it would seem that there'd be no reason to claim that energy was being "created" -- it could be coming from some as-yet unknown source.

Stranger things have happened. But as the man said above: opening this up to testing would be a good thing.

45 posted on 08/18/2006 8:11:37 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: SampleMan
The speed of the object relative to the planet (being used as the fulcrum of the slingshot, to mix a metaphor), is constant; the speed relative to the sun is increased.

Elementary (but clever) calculus.

46 posted on 08/18/2006 8:11:47 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: PatrickHenry
"What we have developed is a way to construct magnetic fields so that when you travel round the magnetic fields, starting and stopping at the same position, you have gained energy," McCarthy said.

OK. I'll trade you a set of your blueprints for my deed to the Brooklyn Bridge.

47 posted on 08/18/2006 8:12:54 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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To: PatrickHenry

If it were real, government would be falling over itself rushing to tax the new technology and eventually ban further development of it.


48 posted on 08/18/2006 8:13:10 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Lazamataz

LMAO!


49 posted on 08/18/2006 8:14:18 AM PDT by manic4organic
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To: PatrickHenry

Electromagnetism is still vastly mysterious to most, and yet we have only 5% of our students enrolling in science/engineering in college, which is where students get to check out some of EM hands-on with useful equipment. EM is going to become even more mysterious to even more as a result, and we will find that most will not be able to understand the first thing about the topic.


50 posted on 08/18/2006 8:15:27 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Tennessee_Bob

just wait until they start sending us the bill!


51 posted on 08/18/2006 8:15:53 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: Eagles Talon IV
Perhaps what they have done is run the primary energy source produced, through an inverse phase re combiner. This would permit the generated energy to be transmogrified and fused with the refracted binary containment field which is a by product of the magnetic mega phase re capacitor and thereby transfused and increased by the actions of the previously mentioned inverse phase re combiner.

I trust that you were able to get a new writing gig after Star Trek: Voyager went off the air.

52 posted on 08/18/2006 8:15:57 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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To: Physicist
If I had a free energy machine, I wouldn't be concerned with whether anybody else believed it worked. Hell, I'd be trying to keep it quiet.

We homeschool, and we made a nonelectric fan using magnets. Magnets repel each other. Just give the fan a little push to get it started, and the repulsion keeps the blades moving. It was "Elementary, my dear" - literally. We were doing a science class. The kids came up with the idea.

53 posted on 08/18/2006 8:16:19 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: Mark Felton
From their website:

This represents a significant challenge to our current understanding of the universe and clearly such claims require independent validation from credible third parties. During 2005 Steorn embarked on a process of independent validation and approached a wide selection of academic institutions. The vast majority of these institutions refused to even look at the technology, however several did. Those who were prepared to complete testing have all confirmed our claims; however none will publicly go on record.

Sounds like the peers refused to even look at it. So they went to a more public forum to get someone to compel some peers to review it.

They themselves agree it appears to violate the ‘Principle of the Conservation of Energy’, under the laws of physics as we know them. But are we saying that we know everything there is to know about the universe and the laws that govern it?

What's it going to cost to take a look, considering the potential bennefits if it does?

If it doesn't work; it doesn't work and we move on. If it does....

54 posted on 08/18/2006 8:17:29 AM PDT by AFreeBird (... Burn the land and boil the sea's, but you can't take the skies from me.)
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To: SampleMan
How can space probes etc. use planets to slingshot to a higher speed (perhaps the MSM just reports wrong)?

"slingshot" orbital speedups are gained by having the spacecraft fly by a planet or moon starting at exactly the right place that the planet gives up energy from its forward orbital motion to the spacecraft. What this means is that every time we use Jupiter to speed up a probe, the planet slows down slightly. if we sent a really, really large number of probes by Jupiter this way, we could get it to fall into the Sun.

55 posted on 08/18/2006 8:19:37 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Doctor Stochastic
HERE IT IS!!!...they sent me a photo for review..(being an engineer and scientist)....

The darn thing just keeps going around and around in a vaccuum with no wires or nothing!!!


56 posted on 08/18/2006 8:19:38 AM PDT by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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To: steve-b
I'll trade you a set of your blueprints for my deed to the Brooklyn Bridge.

Laugh all you want, fool! I've just tied up the North American franchise. Soon you'll be buying your "free energy" from me! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

57 posted on 08/18/2006 8:20:11 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Everything is blasphemy to somebody.)
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To: SampleMan
How can space probes etc. use planets to slingshot to a higher speed (perhaps the MSM just reports wrong)? I understand using a planet to execute a turn, but increasing speed seems impossible, as gravity should have the same effect outbound as inbound.

The probe's "final" (i.e. when it's far enough away for the planet's gravity to become insignificant) inbound and outbound speeds relative to the planet are equal. However, what's important for slingshot trajectories is speed relative to the sun, which can be increased or decreased depending on how the probe's trajectory and the planet's orbit interact.

Of course, the momentum and energy don't appear out of nowhere -- the planet loses the same amount that the probe gains. The planet is a lot bigger, so the effect on its orbit is miniscule.

58 posted on 08/18/2006 8:21:44 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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To: AFreeBird
They themselves agree it appears to violate the ‘Principle of the Conservation of Energy’, under the laws of physics as we know them. But are we saying that we know everything there is to know about the universe and the laws that govern it?

It may not be valid under the laws of Newtonian physics, but Quantum physics is an open book.
I think this type of science is so cool.

59 posted on 08/18/2006 8:22:58 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: SampleMan

Momentum is conserved. Some of the momentum of the large body is transferred to the smaller body, which if it is Jupiter versus Voyager 1 won't matter much to Jupiter.


60 posted on 08/18/2006 8:23:46 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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