Skip to comments.Irish company challenges scientists to test 'free energy' technology [Oh Yeah!]
Posted on 08/18/2006 7:37:36 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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Cold Fusion alert. Extraordinary claims, require extraordinary proof alert too.
Cold fusion no, Hot air, yes.
As bazaar as this sounds, I don't see a problem with requesting a review process. Debunk the dang thing and move on.
Exxon hit squads will be coming after this guy. ;o)
This is not passing the smell test even slightly. Nothing wrong with a review of it, I suppose, if only to get the kooks to be quiet. Reminds me of that cold fusion debacle a few years back.
I suspect it's getting energy from somewhere, if it works.
I agree - if they want a rigorous examination then give them one. If, against all odds, they are actually on to something then all the better.
I prefer investing in Lotto tickets. Better odds.
They could bootstrap their investment capital by selling off the surplus energy they already have.
This is absolute bullcrap. It's an accepted and proveable Gaussian theory that the line integral around any closed surface is 0. If this guy thinks he can get energy out of that, he's fooling himself. Nice try though.
Well, the proper application for the cold fusion would be to subject deuterium saturated palladium sponge [in deuterium atmosphere] to a hypersaturative compression, like from chemical explosion shockwave. One would get an H-warhead on the cheap.
This could be big. The same sort of thing led to Post-Its.
They don't need "credible, academic validation in the public domain", they need a working product.
It's not free energy, they're stealing it from a neighboring dimension - and man are those guys going to be mad when they find out!
PURE BS> advertising gimmick, kinda like the "IT" which later became the (i forgot the name of that 2-wheeled stabilized cart)
They write "Steorn has decided to publish its challenge in The Economist because of the breadth of its readership. "We chose it over a purely scientific magazine simply because we want to make the general public aware that this process is about to commence and to generate public support, awareness, interest etc for what we are doing."
They chose not to write a scientific article and submit it to a technical journal for peer review which is the best way to get their technology reviewed, rather than this nonsense of generating a public demand and pressure.
"NO BLOOD FOR MAGNETS"!!
You don't get something from nothing and if it sounds too good to be true>>>.....
Has this discovery been reported in any credible scientific journal?? The nondescript article says very little--what energy is obtained?? Is it kinetic, heat, chemical, potential, what the hell kind is it??
The conservation of energy law has been valid for many centuries and reading some article about a perpetual energy source is way over the top for me.
Where are they getting the magnetic field? If they are using the Earth's it's too weak locally to be of much use.
All they need is for some physicist to get ahold of this. It'll collapse, but it'll be fun watching.
Oh, they did the right thing: they generated millions of dollars in free advertising by leveraging the world's news services, and if they get lucky, they may get tens of thousands of dollars in free consulting. Good business move.
Of course, if the thing actually worked, they wouldn't need free advertising or free consulting. They could just sell energy back to the power company and finance their operations that way. They wouldn't need investors, and they wouldn't need the approval or even the attention of the scientific community.
If I had a free energy machine, I wouldn't be concerned with whether anybody else believed it worked. Hell, I'd be trying to keep it quiet.
Steorn is making three claims for its technology:
1. The technology has a coefficient of performance greater than 100%.
2. The operation of the technology (i.e. the creation of energy) is not derived from the degradation of its component parts.
3. There is no identifiable environmental source of the energy (as might be witnessed by a cooling of ambient air temperature).
The sum of these claims is that our technology creates free energy.
I call BS.
It's a perpetual motion machine with a slick website.
Accepted, yes, for now. Perhaps what they have done is run the primary energy source produced, through an inverse phase re combiner. This would permit the generated energy to be transmogrified and fused with the refracted binary containment field which is a by product of the magnetic mega phase re capacitor and thereby transfused and increased by the actions of the previously mentioned inverse phase re combiner.
This is some serious shit. I wouldn't lie about this, believe me.
It's really the little people putting one over on the boys. Those Leprechauns. Such kidders.
Look at it this way: if you can power things, wire up your prototype so you can disconnect from the power grid. Use the money saved from buying that power to finance your own company and file the patents to make yourself rich. Heck, if you can do that, form your own power company and start selling power to the neighbors. You would be a billionaire in no time, and you wouldn't need scientists to "test your idea", since it would be blatantly obvious to everyone except liberal democrats that it worked.
You don't have to even do it on a large scale. If you could create a device that replaces batteries permanently, you could make billions off of that alone, not to mention selling the rights to incorporate your technology into every powered appliance in the world!
But, they never do this. They always want other people to look at it, and then try to get "investors" to put money into it. Then they are always "just this close" to making it work, and if only they had some more investors . . .
And the cycle begins again. They want more people to look at it, and then they need more money to "perfect" their device. . .
There goes the earnings on my Energy Sector Mutual Fund!
Free energy; who would have thought it possible. Silly us.
God has provided; it is up to us to dicover what He has provided.
Heat generation? Einstein talked about what he called the ethos. It was the space between matter. According to him, the ethos bends when it meets matter. Add the electrical charge from the magnets to the ethos equation, and then what? From a quantum point of view, what would happen if this ethos could be built up with an electrical charge and wrapped up in itself - like tightening a super string rubber band?
I'd like to know if they really have something - for real.
It would destroy the worlds economy,though, and it would cause one heck of an oil rich Arab Jihad! The Arab nations would have nothing to sell but sand.
Why do they need the technology to be validated? If it works, just start building batteries or generators using the technology and the market will validate it.
Instead, years pass looking for validation until the "science" falls into obscurity.
I've wondered something for a while that perhaps you can answer. How can space probes etc. use planets to slingshot to a higher speed (perhaps the MSM just reports wrong)? I understand using a planet to execute a turn, but increasing speed seems impossible, as gravity should have the same effect outbound as inbound.
They chose a popular news magazine rather than a scientific journal because they will be exposed more slowly this way. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)
"And while inventing Post-Its we discovered free energy. Well, I discovered free energy; Michelle decided what color it should be..."
"This is some serious shit. I wouldn't lie about this, believe me."
Serious eh? Might it originate from the matter existing at the excretory opening at the lower extremity of the male bovine alimentary canal?
It's actually the investor part that makes me think it would be wiser to debunk the thing than let some suckers be conned. Look if people are that stupid they maybe deserve it, but a good debunking could save them from themselves. Or maybe not... LOL.
Couldn't you find a close-up? ;->
Omg. They really built up curiosity with that one! It turned out to be some kind of stupid little scooter. They even had visions of cities being built just to accommodate it. That was a huge let down.
Wha? C'mon? Whaddaya mean?
That's just what I was thinking! /s
Well, like I always say, "Not only are a fool and his money soon parted, but a fool and his money SHOULD be parted, because there is nothing more dangerous than a fool with money"
Planets are not standing still. They can be used to pull the probe along.
Stranger things have happened. But as the man said above: opening this up to testing would be a good thing.
Elementary (but clever) calculus.
OK. I'll trade you a set of your blueprints for my deed to the Brooklyn Bridge.
If it were real, government would be falling over itself rushing to tax the new technology and eventually ban further development of it.
Electromagnetism is still vastly mysterious to most, and yet we have only 5% of our students enrolling in science/engineering in college, which is where students get to check out some of EM hands-on with useful equipment. EM is going to become even more mysterious to even more as a result, and we will find that most will not be able to understand the first thing about the topic.