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'War' doesn't describe threat to America
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | August 18, 2006 | ANDREW GREELEY

Posted on 08/18/2006 12:12:00 PM PDT by Chi-townChief

The "War on Islamofascism" is replacing the "War on Global Terror" as the favorite Bush administration buzz slogan. It is a good slogan because it appeals to the "nuke 'em" segment of the population as an election approaches and because it means nothing at all. The very word "war" has been misused so often that it has lost all its meaning -- the war on drunk driving, the war on drugs, the war on obesity, the war on pornography, the war on calories, the war on autism, the war on gay marriages, the war, as I saw in a newspaper recently, on cervical cancer.

"War" used to be reserved for military battles between powerful armies, as in the Civil War or World War II. Now it means anyone and everyone's favorite cause. The word is a victim of linguistic corruption. Since in some fashion we think with words, linguistic corruption corrupts our thought and indeed destroys thought because it eliminates the necessity and the possibility of thoughtful distinctions -- just what knee-jerk right wing haters want.

Thus "war on Islamofascism" enables both Vice President Dick Cheney and the senator from Connecticut to lump the Iraq war with the plot to blow up transatlantic flights and blinds the victims of such slogans to the facts that in Iraq most of the killing these days is Muslim on Muslim and that there is no evidence of an Iraqi trying to attack the mainland United States or indeed any American until we invaded their country and messed it up. The transatlantic terrorists are English citizens of Pakistani origin who resent the way England treats them. The World Trade Center terrorists were mostly Saudis who resented U.S. support of Israel and American presence in their country. Different people, different anger, different exploitation of a religious heritage.

There's an old Latin saying, "Qui nimis probat, nihil probat'' -- he who proves too much proves nothing at all. If you lump too many phenomena under one label that is also a slogan, you create confusion for yourself and bar serious thought. You justify a fiasco in Iraq on the grounds that it is somehow connected with plans of religious fanatics to blow up airplanes. More seriously, you sink enormous resources into the former and neglect the threat of the latter. You do not invest some of those resources into airport screeners that detect the liquid materials from which bombs could be created -- though you have known for 10 years about the possibility of such bombs. You do not equip airliners with defenses against anti-aircraft rockets, you do not improve the Arabic language capacity of your intelligence services, you do not force your various intelligence agencies to combine their efforts despite bureaucratic inertia against cooperation, you do not cover the gaping holes in protection of sea ports, chemical factories, and mass transit systems.

The only thing that the various forms of terrorism have in common is angry resentment based on fanatical religious vision. You do not respond to that threat, which takes different forms in different contexts, by invading a country and destroying its social structure. Rather you mobilize your resources of technology, talent, planning and intelligence to defend yourself against crazy zealots. Most Americans feel, quite correctly, they are not safer than they were five years ago. They are probably less safe because the next wave of crazy terrorists may well be Iraqis who resent the fiasco we imposed on their country.

There is no reason at all to believe that the so-called Department of Homeland Security has notably improved our defenses against the crazies. Otherwise they would be working on the scanners that track liquid explosives, instead of relying on Pakistani intelligence (who got the first tip about the transatlantic terrorists).

Americans will have to live for many years with the same unease as do the Israelis -- some crazy might blow me up in the next minute. We will eliminate most of that possibility by being quicker, smarter, more ingenious and more determined than they and not by grandiose talk about ''war'' and not by seeking out new big muddies into which to sink our resources.

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Once again, to Goofy Greeley anyhow, there is no terrorism and we're not safe from it.
1 posted on 08/18/2006 12:12:01 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

OOPS - forgot the GREELEY ALERT.


2 posted on 08/18/2006 12:12:25 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

Don't worry, it's just "unease." Andrew Greeley said so.


3 posted on 08/18/2006 12:13:43 PM PDT by livius
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To: Chi-townChief

I don't think the President is using islamofascism anymore.


4 posted on 08/18/2006 12:14:27 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Chi-townChief

disgusting.

This guy and people like him do not see the good and evil in the world. we created terrorism in their opinion. we caused 9/11...sad


5 posted on 08/18/2006 12:14:31 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative ("The only thing we have to fear is fear itself" Franklin D. Roosevelt.)
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To: Chi-townChief

Is GREELY another word for BARF?


6 posted on 08/18/2006 12:14:54 PM PDT by Hoodat ( ETERNITY - Smoking, or Non-smoking?)
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To: Chi-townChief
The transatlantic terrorists are English citizens of Pakistani origin who resent the way England treats them. The World Trade Center terrorists were mostly Saudis who resented U.S. support of Israel and American presence in their country. Different people, different anger, different exploitation of a religious heritage.


7 posted on 08/18/2006 12:15:03 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 113-118)
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To: livius

I remember the "unease" of those people jumping from the twin towers. Apparently greeley doesn't.


8 posted on 08/18/2006 12:15:41 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Hoodat

Pretty much. Perhaps GREELEY is a little stronger than BARF.


9 posted on 08/18/2006 12:15:49 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief
I agree, the term "war" is overused. How about THE ANNIHILATION OF RADICAL ISLAM!
10 posted on 08/18/2006 12:16:06 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Chi-townChief
The word is a victim of linguistic corruption.

So is the word "hate".
11 posted on 08/18/2006 12:17:02 PM PDT by Sopater (Creatio Ex Nihilo)
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To: Chi-townChief

here is a scary thought.

The Democrats running the war on terror, or whatever they would decide to call it. probably nothing.


12 posted on 08/18/2006 12:17:45 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative ("The only thing we have to fear is fear itself" Franklin D. Roosevelt.)
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To: Chi-townChief
The only thing that the various forms of terrorism have in common is angry resentment based on fanatical religious vision.

But that's not Islamic Facism, of course.

13 posted on 08/18/2006 12:17:47 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: Alouette

Le LOL


14 posted on 08/18/2006 12:18:43 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: San Jacinto

It isn't resentment. It is an intolerant supremacist mindset.


15 posted on 08/18/2006 12:21:03 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Chi-townChief
The very word "war" has been misused so often that it has lost all its meaning -- the war on drunk driving, the war on drugs, the war on obesity, the war on pornography, the war on calories, the war on autism, the war on gay marriages, the war, as I saw in a newspaper recently, on cervical cancer.

. . .

There's an old Latin saying, "Qui nimis probat, nihil probat'' -- he who proves too much proves nothing at all. If you lump too many phenomena under one label that is also a slogan, you create confusion for yourself and bar serious thought.

Mr. Greely shoots himself in the foot so thoroughly here that the spectacle would be quite humorous if it weren't so foolish. The "War on Islamofascism" is indeed a shooting war. It is not some social program. By using linguistic sophistry to lump a real, shootin' war together with things that are nothing of the sort, Greely shows himself to be incapable of serious thought, and ends up proving nothing other than his own unfitness as a commentator...

16 posted on 08/18/2006 12:21:33 PM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: Chi-townChief
"...If you lump too many phenomena under one label that is also a slogan, you create confusion for yourself and bar serious thought...."

I think he 'nuanced' his a&^ off, here. I mean, the slowest, dumbest and weakest never made it out of the caves, dude...
17 posted on 08/18/2006 12:22:56 PM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: Chi-townChief

What a complete buffoon this Greeley fellow is. His "reasoning" is so fouled up in every instance that I do not know where to begin. AWWWW, fuggetaboutit.


18 posted on 08/18/2006 12:24:52 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free
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To: Alouette
Hmmm. I think I'd rather have one of those pictures in German, actually. I think the caption would be (based on 15 years since my last German class):

Meine Gott, nicht diese Scheiße wieder!

19 posted on 08/18/2006 12:26:13 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwt! Lr bi mst hord, solce!)
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To: Chi-townChief
Rather you mobilize your resources of technology, talent, planning and intelligence to defend yourself against crazy zealots.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Reactive, predictable and stupid - but what else would you expect from Democrats? We are fighting a mobile, low-visibility, low-tech, and determined foe. No matter how brilliant our planning and advanced our technology, if our strategy is purely defensive, it will kill us. We need to assault, invade, attack, and destroy; not sit back with our brilliant weapons systems and highly-trained specialists waiting for something to happen, while liberal judges deny us the intelligence tools with which to predict where and how an attack might occur. Screw that. The mistake we made in Iraq was too little manpower, and not enough force.

20 posted on 08/18/2006 12:28:23 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: Chi-townChief

1938
Q: Why did you join the Nazi Party?
1st person - "Because I hate Jews"
2nd person - "Because I hate blacks"
3rd person - "Because Germany should rule Europe"
4th person - "I was forced to at gunpoint"

Different people, different anger


21 posted on 08/18/2006 12:28:37 PM PDT by TheSpaceCoyote
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To: Chi-townChief
The only thing that the various forms of terrorism have in common is angry resentment based on fanatical religious vision.

Wrong. They have in common a totalitarian world view that cannot ever be reconciled with democracy. It is sometimes religious in nature, sometimes political, sometimes both. Regardless, the rest of his argument becomes invalid from there.

22 posted on 08/18/2006 12:47:31 PM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: Chi-townChief
You do not respond to that threat, which takes different forms in different contexts, by invading a country and destroying its social structure.

Saddam's cabal of thugs, torturers, and rapists was a "social structure".

My wish is these useful idiots live just one day under the regimes they love to coddle.

23 posted on 08/18/2006 12:47:53 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: Chi-townChief

.."there is no terrorism and we're not safe from it."

Well said. Exactly.


24 posted on 08/18/2006 12:50:25 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (You're never more than a half-step away from a good note.)
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To: Chi-townChief
The word is a victim of linguistic corruption.

Dilution, maybe. But its meaning is essentially the same, even if not as powerful due to overuse. In this context though, I think that it is the appropriate term.

Since in some fashion we think with words, linguistic corruption corrupts our thought and indeed destroys thought because it eliminates the necessity and the possibility of thoughtful distinctions -- just what knee-jerk right wing haters want.

Kind of like what happens when you use terms like "knee-jerk right wing haters".

But exactly what are these "thoughtful distinctions" we right-wingers are in such haste to avoid? The distinction between an enemy wearing a uniform and aligned in serried rows on a battlefield and those in mufti wandering through airports with suspicious lumps under their jackets? The difference between an army trained at a barracks and one trained at a ratty camp in the desert? The difference between commanders trained in the arts of war at colleges and universities, and those trained by strapping explosives to little boys and watching the mayhem that ensues? Wars fought for flag and country versus wars fought for misaligned manic zeal?

Please, Mr. Greeley, enlighten me, that I may no longer stumble in the right-wing darkness.

25 posted on 08/18/2006 1:04:29 PM PDT by IronJack (ALL)
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To: Chi-townChief

'War' barely begins to describe it... its more like "a life & death struggle against slavery and holocaust"


26 posted on 08/18/2006 1:12:19 PM PDT by GeronL (flogerloon.blogspot.com -------------> Rise of the Hate Party)
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To: Chi-townChief

27 posted on 08/18/2006 1:26:01 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Hoodat
"Is GREELY another word for BARF?"

Nope. "Greely" is another word for diarrhea. As in raging projectile left-wing diarrhea.....
28 posted on 08/18/2006 1:32:42 PM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Mainstream Journalism)
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To: IronJack
The word is a victim of linguistic corruption

I agree with THAT line anyway. I just updated by blog with a couple of paragraphs on my reasons.

29 posted on 08/18/2006 1:47:41 PM PDT by GeronL (flogerloon.blogspot.com -------------> Rise of the Hate Party)
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To: Chi-townChief
...there is no terrorism and we're not safe from it.

Typical Greeleyism. "Logic Error" is his middle name.

30 posted on 08/18/2006 2:04:26 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: ozzymandus
I remember the "unease" of those people jumping from the twin towers. Apparently greeley doesn't.
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Memory loss. That's one of the symptoms of senility.
31 posted on 08/18/2006 2:16:28 PM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Chi-townChief; SierraWasp; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; tubebender; Marine_Uncle; SandRat; Gucho; ...

Thanks for posting this....some still don't get it!


32 posted on 08/18/2006 2:44:56 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Chi-townChief
The only thing that the various forms of terrorism have in common is angry resentment based on fanatical religious vision.

No the only thing the terroists have in common is

I-S-L-A-M
33 posted on 08/18/2006 2:47:26 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Chi-townChief

Greeley is blind to the facts, and cares not for the truth. He wants things the way he wants them, and anything else is just wrong, in his limited, shuttered mind. The now every growing mountain of evidence of Saddam's complicity with Al Qaida is only matched by the emerging evidence of Saddam's own plans for suicide attacks directly on the United States. Should we ignore these facts because they don't support the political bias and agenda of the author? What use is his analysis anyway, in light of his ignorance?


34 posted on 08/18/2006 2:50:06 PM PDT by Richard Axtell
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To: Chi-townChief

"The word is a victim of linguistic corruption."

It's so nice to have the luxury of equivocating about the linguistics; corrupt, flowery, banal, whatever. I'm sure we could discuss it further, ad infinitum, except at some point, lost in deep thought, the discussees will have had their throats cut, perhaps with their heads rolling around on the ground. That has a way of clearly resolving these types of petty and feckless arguments.


35 posted on 08/18/2006 2:51:05 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (You're never more than a half-step away from a good note.)
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To: Chi-townChief
"War on Islamofascism"

The most important thing about this new label is that it correctly names the real enemy. Now some focus should follow.

36 posted on 08/18/2006 3:19:05 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Chi-townChief

Another lunatic heard from.


37 posted on 08/18/2006 3:20:05 PM PDT by hershey
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To: GingisK

I prefer calling them IslamoCommies.


38 posted on 08/18/2006 4:01:50 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: sauropod

review


39 posted on 08/18/2006 4:57:36 PM PDT by sauropod (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." PJO)
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To: Chi-townChief
...invaded their country and messed it up.

Messed it up? Maybe if we called the Iraq war "The War on Mass Graves" he would get it. Nah, probably not.
40 posted on 08/18/2006 5:53:25 PM PDT by RedWhiteAndBlueBlood (Liberalism kills innocent people)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Thanks for posting this....some still don't get it!"
Shame one of our SOPS teams can't kidnap this asshole and airdrop him over Sadr city when they are going nuts and firing their rifles into the air.
41 posted on 08/18/2006 7:34:45 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Alouette

Yup, I’m afraid it’s the same old same old. LOL Glad to see the French you took in high school came in handy.


42 posted on 08/01/2007 2:47:05 AM PDT by Judges Gone Wild
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To: Chi-townChief

Oklahoma city anyone?


43 posted on 08/01/2007 3:12:18 AM PDT by GeneralisimoFranciscoFranco
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