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The long and winding road . . . to God?
Chicago Sun Times ^ | August 18, 2006 | CATHLEEN FALSANI

Posted on 08/18/2006 12:18:47 PM PDT by Borges

Forty years ago, a young English pop singer said something that sparked such a cultural hullabaloo among many religious Americans that it makes the recent reaction to Madonna's strapping herself to a disco-ball-glittery crucifix seem like a collective shrug.

In August 1966, an American magazine published a portion of a newspaper interview John Lennon of the Beatles had given a British journalist months earlier wherein the topic of religion -- Christianity in particular -- arose.

"Christianity will go," Lennon said. "It will vanish and shrink. I needn't argue about that; I'm right and I will be proved right. We're more popular than Jesus now; I don't' know which will go first -- rock 'n' roll or Christianity. Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. It's them twisting it that ruins it for me."

There was more that came before and after Lennon's characteristic lipping-off about whatever was on his mind. But as many of you know, the only thing anyone paid attention to when his comments were published in the States and pricked the ire of a couple of DJs in Birmingham, Ala., was:

We're more popular than Jesus.

The backlash was passionate and immediate. Radio stations boycotted playing Beatles records. Stores refused to carry their albums. Bonfires were organized to burn Beatles records, books and posters. Preachers preached against the Fab Four, and the band's 15-city U.S. summer tour -- the Ku Klux Klan in Memphis threatened to disrupt the Beatles concert there because it believed Lennon had insulted Jesus -- was in jeopardy.

So on Aug. 11, 1966, the day before their concert at Chicago's International Amphitheater, Lennon and his bandmates met the press in a downtown hotel so the "literary Beatle," as he was known, could apologize. Lennon didn't want to -- he even broke down sobbing before meeting with the press, according to the fascinating new book The Gospel According to the Beatles by long-time rock journalist Steve Turner -- but eventually he said he was sorry for what he'd said. Sort of.

Here's a portion of the transcript from that 1966 Chicago press conference:

Q: "Some teenagers have repeated your statements -- 'I like the Beatles more than Jesus Christ.' What do you think about that?"

Lennon: "Well, originally I was pointing out that fact in reference to England -- that we meant more to kids than Jesus did, or religion, at that time. I wasn't knocking it or putting it down, I was just saying it as a fact. And it's sort of... It is true, 'specially more for England than here. I'm not saying that we're better, or greater, or comparing us with Jesus Christ as a person or God as a thing or whatever it is, you know. I just said what I said and it was wrong, or was taken wrong. And now it's all this."

Cultural collisions

In The Gospel According to the Beatles, Turner theorizes that the Beatles vs. Jesus incident marked a kind of cultural turning point, when music fans -- young people in particular -- started to pay attention to what their favorite musicians were saying about their religious or political beliefs as closely as they followed their fashion and hairstyles.

It's a phenomenon that continues today, and may explain why fans of artists such as U2, the Dixie Chicks, Wycliffe Jean or the Beastie Boys seem to care as much about what they say (on and off stage) as what they sing.

Lennon is the granddaddy of cultural collisions like the one last year, when Chicago's own Kanye West lost his cool on national TV during the Hurricane Katrina telethon and said President Bush didn't care about black people.

Sure, a lot of Americans said, "Kanye who?" and went about their business unfazed. But a lot of people didn't and responded with a chorus of "Amen -- tell it's," or a litany of invectives against the hip-hop star (who also happens to be an outspoken, self-described Christian).

Lennon's 1966 Jesus commentary also marked a period of spiritual exploration and experimentation for all of the Beatles that is reflected in their later albums. For many of a certain generation, the four lads from Liverpool served as spiritual tour guides.

Whether it was Eastern mysticism, the Maharishi and his Transcendental Meditation, LSD and opening the doors of perception, Krishna or Mother Mary, they went out and discovered new things and dutifully reported their findings in their music.

Like so many of his contemporaries (and like so many young people in the generation or two since), Lennon abandoned the religion of his youth during his late teen years and went looking for something more "real." Whether he found it is a matter of speculation.

'Zen pagan'

The last thing Lennon is known to have said about his own spiritual journey, in a letter to his cousin, was that he was a "Zen pagan," Turner said. "But he was continually returning to, checking out and bothered by Jesus."

So, what is the gospel according to the Beatles? Turner didn't use the term "gospel" in its Christian, biblical sense, but he did intend it to mean the Beatles' "message," their "good news."

"They talk about people being blind, about not seeing, about misunderstanding," Turner said. "Free your mind . . . the kingdom of heaven is within."

Or, as Paul McCartney wrote in "Blackbird":

Blackbird singing in the dead of night

Take these sunken eyes and learn to see

All your life

You were only waiting for this moment to be free.


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1 posted on 08/18/2006 12:18:48 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

I have to wonder where Lennon is right now. I have a feeling that it is not a very good place.


2 posted on 08/18/2006 12:25:14 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (God makes us strong for alittle while so that we can protect the weak.)
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To: Borges

John Lennon was a piece of cr*p when he was alive!


3 posted on 08/18/2006 12:26:26 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Borges

ZZZZzzzzzzz.

The beatles, how @#*&%* original.

Imagine.


4 posted on 08/18/2006 12:29:54 PM PDT by mandingo republican (Libs are Moloch worshipers I tell ya! - FREE HK, CUBA & IRAN - SATAN was the first liberal!)
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To: Borges
the Ku Klux Klan in Memphis threatened to disrupt the Beatles concert there because it believed Lennon had insulted Jesus

Pot, meet kettle...

5 posted on 08/18/2006 12:33:07 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Pluto's holding the leash, and Mickey's wearing the collar)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
I have to wonder where Lennon is right now.

"Imagine there's no heaven...."

6 posted on 08/18/2006 12:33:09 PM PDT by wai-ming
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To: wai-ming

Geesh, if I didn't know better I'd say this was a radical Islamist website, where the cold blooded murder of very minor heretical statements (or cartoons) is applauded and celebrated. Glad you still enjoy Mark David Chapman's self-appointed Fatwa against an unarmed 40 year old man coming home from work to see his five year old son.


7 posted on 08/18/2006 12:40:16 PM PDT by PC99
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To: PC99

Hysterical much? No one said they enjoyed Lennon's murder.


8 posted on 08/18/2006 12:41:18 PM PDT by delphirogatio
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To: wai-ming

the beatles were part of a cultural collapse.

people call it a counter culture. I disagree. I think it was more of a cultural collapse. Taking down the boundries of good and evil. Removing ethics and morals. taking away the spiritual value of human life. Put way too much importance on sex and personal image. Look at the teen suicide rate before the 60s. Look at the STD rate before the 60s. look at the divorce rate before the 60s.

just social marxism IMO.


9 posted on 08/18/2006 12:44:38 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (God makes us strong for alittle while so that we can protect the weak.)
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"Well, originally I was pointing out that fact in reference to England -- that we meant more to kids than Jesus did, or religion, at that time. I wasn't knocking it or putting it down, I was just saying it as a fact. And it's sort of... It is true, 'specially more for England than here. I'm not saying that we're better, or greater, or comparing us with Jesus Christ as a person or God as a thing or whatever it is, you know. I just said what I said and it was wrong, or was taken wrong. And now it's all this."

You can fire a cannon inside an English church on Sunday morning without danger of injuring anyone.

Can't say Lennon was wrong.

SD

10 posted on 08/18/2006 12:45:16 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Borges

Well, Lennon was right, at least in part. Christianity seems to be on the wane in England and Europe, but it really can't be blamed on John Lennon. He just saw it happening.

I'm not so sure it's the case here in the U.S.A., though. Christianity is still the dominant religion here, and most cities have churches everywhere, with new ones being built all the time.



11 posted on 08/18/2006 12:49:51 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: Borges
"Christianity will go," Lennon said. "It will vanish and shrink.

Christianity? Alive and well.

John Lennon? Deader than a beached carp.

12 posted on 08/18/2006 12:56:05 PM PDT by IronJack (ALL)
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To: Borges
Beatles?

Thar, like, you know, so yesterday - I mean, like, really.

What-ever. (pops gum and walks away into the mall)

13 posted on 08/18/2006 12:59:15 PM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: Borges

Lennon never was the crispest cracker in the box. I daresay that Jesus is still more popular.


14 posted on 08/18/2006 1:01:10 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY
John Lennon was a piece of cr*p when he was alive!

Ironically, that statement fits even more now that he's dead.

15 posted on 08/18/2006 1:01:17 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Borges

The cool thing about that moron Kanye going off with Myers sitting next to him is that it looked just like an SNL bit with Kanye oinking away and Myers staying right on script trying to ignore his squealing.


16 posted on 08/18/2006 1:04:12 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

The Beatles were a Sunday School choir compared to what now passes for music on the radio.


17 posted on 08/18/2006 1:08:38 PM PDT by AnnGora (Currently bidding on Ebay for a used -but -in -good -condition tagline..)
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To: Borges

Fat, middle-aged lefties still looking to stoned musicians for life's answers.

ZZZZZ ...


18 posted on 08/18/2006 1:11:48 PM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: Borges
"Christianity will go," Lennon said. "It will vanish and shrink. I needn't argue about that; I'm right and I will be proved right.

I guess God had the last laugh, cause God is still in his throne and Lennon...well...in the pit, plus the beetles ain't NO more...vanish, poof..goners!

19 posted on 08/18/2006 1:14:58 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Borges
Who was that famous philosopher who said that he would eradicate Christianity by the end of his lifetime?

See, the problem with what Lennon said is that it is based on the assumption that Christianity is not true. I have yet to find an arguement that proves such an assumption true.

20 posted on 08/18/2006 1:16:36 PM PDT by The Blitherer (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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