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To: the invisib1e hand
interesting that wiretapping

There was no wiretapping. That is just another of the fraudulent talking points the Democrats scream over and over in their desperation to lie to the American voters about their nonexistent National Security agenda. Data mining has nothing to do with wire tapping.

4 posted on 08/20/2006 6:07:27 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (History shows us that if you are not willing to fight, you better be prepared to die)
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To: MNJohnnie

ok, wiretapping after-the-fact then -- and I appreciate the distinction, I'm glad you made it, but that isn't my point.


8 posted on 08/20/2006 6:11:06 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Pray hard and do the math.)
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To: MNJohnnie
"Now we need an honest debate and constructive steps, not another public relations onslaught from an administration that's good at hiding the truth and spinning the politics and sorely lacking when it comes to making America safe in the world or bringing people together at home."

Not to mention that Kerry's idea of bringing people together tat home means for everyone to join with the Libs in capitulation to the enemy- so the Dems can come into power and line their pockets with "diplomatic" deals that just create more FOOD FOR OIL scandals that don't interrupt their dinner parties, and let the enemy get stronger under cover- and then their answer to the solution will be to give the BIG DEM LIBS MORE power to "protect us"....viola- the Communist United States.....

9 posted on 08/20/2006 6:11:28 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (JOHN BOLTON FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: MNJohnnie

I am glad that you brought that up because as long as people (including those who understand the true nature of the program) continue to use the same terminology as the radical liberals and the media, the propaganda will most assuredly become the "truth". The fact that the program is centered on data mining and not wiretapping is its key defense.

Having made that bold statement, I have a couple of questions to pose to my fellow Freepers that can help me (and all of us) be better defenders of Bush's national security strategies when we try to explain what the NSA is actually doing to our friends, acquaintances and family members who only get their information from Moveon.org, the MSM and leaders of the Dumbocratic party.

I have gained a lot of good insight from threads on this site but would appreciate it if some of you all could provide links for some supporting information:

1. a source where the distinction between wiretapping and data mining is explained and verified.

2. a source explaining how any wiretapping that does take place is acceptable under current federal laws regarding calls initiated from or made to foreign phone numbers (I think it may have been used for decades in conjunction with drug trafficking - but I can't recall).

3. any other sources that put the lie into the propaganda being spewed by the radical, America-hating left.

Also, if anyone knows why the administration is not putting the wackos in their places by disseminating this information, please post your thoughts.

Thanks, I know the Freepers will be able to help.

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14 posted on 08/20/2006 6:40:42 AM PDT by Thickman (The answer is TERM LIMITS!)
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To: MNJohnnie

The MSM picked up and ran with the "wiretapping" phrase. Like the "Big Lie", it stuck.


25 posted on 08/20/2006 7:24:06 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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