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Dangers await Lebanon returnees (BBC Admits Engaging in Staged Photos)
BBC via LGF ^ | 8/21/06 | Martin Asser

Posted on 08/21/2006 11:32:44 AM PDT by Republican Red



When Um Ali Mihdi returned to her home in the southern Lebanese city of Bint Jbeil two days ago, she found a 1,000lb (450kg) Israeli bomb lying unexploded in her living room.

The shell is huge, bigger than the young boy pushed forward to stand reluctantly next to it while we get our cameras out and record the scene for posterity.

The bomb came through the roof of the single-storey house and half-embedded itself into the floor, just missing the TV.

There is a hole in the roof with exactly the same profile as the shell itself, like when a cartoon character runs through a wall. The tailfin - complete with skull-and-crossbones marking - still lies on the roof next to the hole where it broke off.

This is just one of thousands of nasty surprises greeting those coming back to southern Lebanon after Israel's five-week war with the Hezbollah militant group

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


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These idiots forced a child to pose with a live bomb - and they write about it!
1 posted on 08/21/2006 11:32:45 AM PDT by Republican Red
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To: Republican Red
These idiots forced a child to pose with a live bomb - and they write about it!

Cue the screaming goblins.

2 posted on 08/21/2006 11:35:40 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: Republican Red

This is what happens when a culture that doesn't care about life meets a culture that doesn't care about truth.


3 posted on 08/21/2006 11:39:21 AM PDT by Mongeaux (''I would sooner be governed by the first 2,000 names in the Boston phone directory," W.F. Buckley)
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To: Republican Red

Reckless endangerment and defamation, but who cares right? They're the media and are above the law and ethics.

When the truth is not good enough, just make it up.


4 posted on 08/21/2006 11:39:38 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Republican Red
Kind of looks like they used a fish-eye lens, which warps perspective.

I'm no photographer, so that's a guess. The photo simply looks odd to me.

Maybe it's just the artsy-fartsy tilt/angle of the photo (unless the floor of the house actually goes downhill, to the left).

5 posted on 08/21/2006 11:40:50 AM PDT by holymoly ("A lot" is TWO words.)
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To: Republican Red; prairiebreeze; Mo1

Ping to a shocking article and post #1.


6 posted on 08/21/2006 11:41:41 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Republican Red
Republican Red Admits Engaging in Staged Headline
7 posted on 08/21/2006 1:20:25 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

Nope. I credited LGF - It is their title and their find.


8 posted on 08/21/2006 1:23:21 PM PDT by Republican Red (Everyone is super stoked on Gore, even if they don't know it)
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To: Mongeaux

Bingo.


9 posted on 08/21/2006 1:24:41 PM PDT by hershey
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To: holymoly

Just more artistic license to make it seem worse than it is.


10 posted on 08/21/2006 1:27:50 PM PDT by thoughtomator (There is no "Islamofascism" - there is only Islam)
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To: Republican Red

Where is the horrible bombed out homes and buildings in Isreal? Oh wait, I forgot. Lebanon was just sitting there minding it's own business and WHAM, Isreal attacked.


11 posted on 08/21/2006 1:29:47 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: Republican Red
"I credited LGF"

LG who? What? Where's the link?

What's wrong with the original title?

12 posted on 08/21/2006 1:32:09 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
I guess I didn't provide the LGF link for the lazy. I couldn't link to it as a source since it is a blog and blogs get sent to FR purgatory.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=22204_BBC_Admits_Engaging_in_Staged_Photos&only
13 posted on 08/21/2006 1:33:12 PM PDT by Republican Red (Everyone is super stoked on Gore, even if they don't know it)
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To: Mongeaux
This is what happens when a culture that doesn't care about life meets a culture that doesn't care about truth.

What does the DNC position on abortion have to do with anything?

14 posted on 08/21/2006 1:33:47 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
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To: Republican Red

"just missing the TV"

Holy cow, that was close!


15 posted on 08/21/2006 1:34:50 PM PDT by ryan71
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To: Republican Red

Exactly what sort of "bomb" is that anyway? It looks like an artillery shell with the casing still attached, and if that's the case, it was placed there, not dropped by a plane or fired by a gun.


16 posted on 08/21/2006 1:37:10 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: Republican Red
"and blogs get sent to FR purgatory."

As well they should -- especially those with incorrect headlines, leading to duplicate FR posts.

"I guess I didn't provide the LGF link for the lazy."

Why do you assume my request was due to laziness?

17 posted on 08/21/2006 1:40:52 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

Given the extensive and documented history of fraud in the reporting from Lebanon, methinks you ought to take a chill pill on this one. The original title would also not have given readers an indication the the media was up to more of its Lebanese hijinks - and I'm normally a stickler for keeping the title.


18 posted on 08/21/2006 1:42:57 PM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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To: lesser_satan

RTFA. "The tailfin - complete with skull-and-crossbones marking - still lies on the roof next to the hole where it broke off."


19 posted on 08/21/2006 1:43:19 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Republican Red

It doesn't look large enough to weigh 1000 pounds. I do not know how to post a photo, but I did a photo search on Google and found photos of GI's standing next to 500 and 1000 pound bombs. Both look a lot larger than the device depicted in the photo.


20 posted on 08/21/2006 1:45:50 PM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: dirtboy
Planting a 1000lb. bomb in the living room and taking a photo of it is fraud. Standing a child next to it for size comparison is flat-out stupid -- but fraud it ain't.

Follow your own advice. Chill out.

21 posted on 08/21/2006 1:53:02 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: lesser_satan
Kinda looks like a really old car muffler to me.
22 posted on 08/21/2006 1:55:01 PM PDT by top 2 toe red (To the enemy in Iraq..."Don't bet on American politics forcing my hand!" President Bush)
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To: robertpaulsen
Standing a child next to it for size comparison is flat-out stupid -- but fraud it ain't.

He didn't say it was fraud - he said it was staged, which it was. Quit putting words in the other poster's mouth.

23 posted on 08/21/2006 1:57:02 PM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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To: Mongeaux
This is what happens when a culture that doesn't care about life meets a culture that doesn't care about truth.

Great comment.

24 posted on 08/21/2006 1:59:04 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Republican Red

Actually, posting a source link isn't for the benefit of the lazy around FR, it's because JimRob & Etc. like news items to be verified.


25 posted on 08/21/2006 1:59:46 PM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: Republican Red
The shell is huge, bigger than the young boy pushed forward to stand reluctantly next to it while we get our cameras out and record the scene for posterity.

I had a liberal say he didn't believe Qana was staged - his thought was that no one would put their children in harms way for proganda value.

This proves him dead wrong. Thanks for the post, despite what a whiner or two may say otherwise.

26 posted on 08/21/2006 2:02:19 PM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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To: dirtboy
And how do we know it was "staged"? THEY TOLD US.

You keep throwing up Mickey Mouse examples like these as proof that the media is perpetrating fraud and sooner or later people will tune you out. Sooner, I hope. This is a non- issue.

27 posted on 08/21/2006 2:07:45 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Republican Red
Why didn't they just make the poor little tyke sit on the darned thing. Sheesh.


1000 lb. bomb - during WWII - looks heavier than the one the BBC is promoting...

They wouldn't lie or exaggerate to us, would they???

28 posted on 08/21/2006 2:10:29 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: robertpaulsen
And how do we know it was "staged"? THEY TOLD US.

Yeah, they are so brazen now they admit to staging photos.

You keep throwing up Mickey Mouse examples like these as proof that the media is perpetrating fraud and sooner or later people will tune you out. Sooner, I hope. This is a non- issue.

Non-issue? Wholesale manipulation of media images is a non-issue? I pointed out to the poster that this invalidates a liberal talking point about Qana - that Lebanese parents would not put their kids in harms way for a photo op. You are so stinkin' anal about this you can't see the bigger picture. Or maybe you LIKE twising information to suit your purposes.

29 posted on 08/21/2006 2:10:46 PM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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To: lesser_satan
That looks to me to be a bomblet dispenser. Unusual for them to fail in that manner. It is most often the bomblets that don't go off.
30 posted on 08/21/2006 2:12:06 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: ops33
I would say that a real US Army issue 2000 lb. bomb looks bigger than the BBC version for sure.


Real 2000 pound bomb.                BBC Liar's version of 2000 lb. bomb
31 posted on 08/21/2006 2:18:18 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: dirtboy

"Wholesale manipulation of media images is a non-issue?"

How does having a picture of a boy posing next to a bomb and describing it as a picture of a boy posing next to a bomb constitute 'manipulation'?


32 posted on 08/21/2006 2:19:50 PM PDT by Canard
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To: Lazamataz; EODGUY

Something doesn't look right: 1000 bomb?

Cannon shell maybe (flat rear end, maybe a ring near the bse), but a bomb shaped like that?

Fuze, nose don't look right.


33 posted on 08/21/2006 2:22:23 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Canard
How does having a picture of a boy posing next to a bomb and describing it as a picture of a boy posing next to a bomb constitute 'manipulation'?

It's part of the larger stable of media manipulation we've seen in Lebanon. The boy was shoved into the image to give it more impact, at abject risk to the child. If it was just one example, it would not be a big deal. But we have seen tons of this stuff - photoshopping, staging, and false captions, just for starters.

34 posted on 08/21/2006 2:22:56 PM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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To: Republican Red

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1666501/posts?page=50#50

Time for the New York Times to fess up. They got a prize for this one.


35 posted on 08/21/2006 2:23:07 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: mad_as_he$$
That looks to me to be a bomblet dispenser. Unusual for them to fail in that manner. It is most often the bomblets that don't go off.

Looks like it... do you think that thing next to the little boy is almost 8 feet long
and about 15 inches in diameter? Looks smaller than that to me.

CBU-87
Primary function:
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CBU-89 Gator
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36 posted on 08/21/2006 2:25:41 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Bon mots
"1000 lb. bomb - during WWII - looks heavier than the one the BBC is promoting..."

Yeah, you're right. And that so-called "TV" in the picture looks different than a 1950's TV.

I think the whole photo is fake.

37 posted on 08/21/2006 2:27:51 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Bon mots
Other actual bomb shapes: notice the streamlined shape; Israel has received US Mk-82 (500 lb), Mk-83 (1000 lb) and Mk84 (2000 lb) bombs.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/jdam.htm
38 posted on 08/21/2006 2:31:32 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: mad_as_he$$
CBU-87
Primary function:
All-purpose, air-delivered cluster weapons system.
Dimensions: Length 7 ft. 9 in., diameter 1 ft. 3 in.



CBU-89 Gator
Primary function:
1,000-pound unpowered cluster munition weapon.
Dimensions: Length 7 ft. 8 in., diameter 16 in.
Range: Varies by method of employment.



BBC-BS Truck Muffler
Primary function:
250-pound unarmed photo prop.
Dimensions: Length = about the length of a small boy
Range: Dragged into buildings by BBC photographers and small boy.



39 posted on 08/21/2006 2:31:54 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: lesser_satan
"Exactly what sort of "bomb" is that anyway? It looks like an artillery shell with the casing still attached, and if that's the case, it was placed there, not dropped by a plane or fired by a gun."

Exactly. It's not a bomb and it didn't come through the ceiling. It's an artillery shell fired from a gun.

40 posted on 08/21/2006 2:36:44 PM PDT by blam
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To: Canard
How does having a picture of a boy posing next to a bomb and describing it as a picture of a boy posing next to a bomb constitute 'manipulation'?

The shell is huge, bigger than the young boy pushed forward to stand reluctantly next to it while we get our cameras out and record the scene for posterity.

A boy was forced to come in and stand next to a a bomb for photographers.

41 posted on 08/21/2006 2:36:45 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Mongeaux

perfect description.


42 posted on 08/21/2006 2:42:57 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: blam
"It's not a bomb and it didn't come through the ceiling."

The round hole in the ceiling above the object, matching the diameter of the object, and the bomb fins on the roof next to that hole, indicate what to you?

"It's an artillery shell fired from a gun."

Yep. From a 1200mm cannon, and it came in through the front door.

43 posted on 08/21/2006 2:49:59 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Mongeaux

brilliantly stated .. pithy, even ;)


44 posted on 08/21/2006 2:52:24 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Republican Red

BBC photograph = assume it's staged or fake


45 posted on 08/21/2006 2:57:21 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Republican Red

Ping for later reference.


46 posted on 08/21/2006 2:57:28 PM PDT by Toadman
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To: Bon mots

Yes, I've experienced the phenomenom of parents wanting their kids in every photo that you take myself. Probably not too smart when the photo is of an unexploded bomb. Although if you're living in a house with an unexploded bomb in it anyway, shouldn't think it makes all that much difference.


47 posted on 08/21/2006 2:59:03 PM PDT by Canard
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To: EDINVA; Starboard; hershey

:) Just started my own blog so I have had to practise my "pith".


48 posted on 08/21/2006 3:01:31 PM PDT by Mongeaux (''I would sooner be governed by the first 2,000 names in the Boston phone directory," W.F. Buckley)
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To: robertpaulsen
"The round hole in the ceiling above the object, matching the diameter of the object, and the bomb fins on the roof next to that hole, indicate what to you?

Somebody is lying. I'm an old diesel sub sailor but I can still identify an artillery shell, lol.

49 posted on 08/21/2006 3:15:17 PM PDT by blam
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To: Republican Red

bump


50 posted on 08/21/2006 3:17:22 PM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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