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Offended College Freshmen Get OK to Close Book
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Posted on 08/23/2006 8:37:40 AM PDT by georgiarat

August 23, 2006 Clemson University (S.C.) freshmen must participate in discussion of a controversial book but won't be punished if personal feelings keep them from reading it, Clemson President Barker said in a campus letter.

"If any of our students feel so strongly about the book that they cannot complete it, that is their decision, and we should not respond in a punitive way," Barker said in a letter to faculty and staff Tuesday.

"However, we should expect them to complete the assignment, which includes attending the discussion and submitting an essay to their Electronic Portfolio online explaining their views on the assignment."

The summer reading assignment selected by faculty--"Truth and Beauty: A Friendship" by Ann Patchett--generated controversy because of some sexual content.

Columbia lawyer Ken Wingate, who is on the state Commission of Higher Education, wrote a letter to Barker objecting to the book.

"Over the top graphic sexual discussions" in the book are "inappropriate for shoving down (students') throats," Wingate told The Greenville News last week. He was traveling and unavailable to respond to Barker's letter Wednesday.

Jan Murdoch, dean of undergraduate studies and chair of the reading selection committee, said faculty members thought the book would stimulate insightful discussion.


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: bookreview; highereducation; truthandbeauty
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Maybe there should be a discussion on liberal drivel. That would certanily stimulate insightful discussion
1 posted on 08/23/2006 8:37:41 AM PDT by georgiarat
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To: georgiarat; Ax

Im in a Western Civilization course at UMSL this semester. I have always thought dates were A.D and B.C. Not anymore its CE (common era) and BCE (Before common era). What happened to Anno Domini and Before Christ?? Liberal Academia happened..


2 posted on 08/23/2006 8:41:20 AM PDT by cardinal4 (America, despite the usual suspects, stands firmly with Israel..)
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To: georgiarat

I remember one time there was an essay question that required a 3 paragraph answer. I just typed 3 paragraphs of meaningless drivel, complete with real long sentences and everything. Got an A on that paper ( I do not believe anyone even read it, just saw all the long sentences, and counted 3 paragraphs )....maybe if every student with a meaningless assignement like this one just did what I did.........


3 posted on 08/23/2006 8:42:35 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Israel, taking out the world's trash since 1948.)
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To: georgiarat
Emily Dickinson I Died For Beauty

I died for beauty but was scarce Adjusted in the tomb, When one who died for truth was lain In an adjoining room.

He questioned softly why I failed? "For beauty," I replied. "And I for truth, the two are one; We brethren are," he said.

And so, as kinsmen met a night, We talked between the rooms, Until the moss had reached our lips, And covered up our names.

4 posted on 08/23/2006 8:43:58 AM PDT by reflecting
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To: georgiarat
Jan Murdoch, dean of undergraduate studies and chair of the reading selection committee, said faculty members thought the book would stimulate insightful discussion coeds and make it easier for the profs to hit on them.

What they really meant.

5 posted on 08/23/2006 8:44:23 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: georgiarat
shoving down (students') throats

There is a precedent for presidents. Interns are a type of student, no?


6 posted on 08/23/2006 8:44:30 AM PDT by ASA Vet (3.03)
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To: cardinal4
Not anymore its CE (common era) and BCE (Before common era).

Typical liberal insanity.....

What defines the start of the "Common Era"? Uhhhhhhh......Christ's birth?

7 posted on 08/23/2006 8:44:38 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some Freepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: georgiarat

wonder why they couldn't find a book that provides for intellectual stimulation without the sex?

(here comes the answer, folks:)

Because to liberals sexual stimulation trumps everything else.

I mean, what other adult wants to talk about sex with a captive audience of youngsters?


8 posted on 08/23/2006 8:46:00 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: georgiarat

My college did a similar thing a couple of years ago using a book by Barbara Ehrenreich about low wage workers. Naturally, there was no conservative book to counter what old Babs wrote.

I had a discussion about this with the assoc. dean of the faculty and he suggested that any discussion of the Ehrenreich book would be balanced. I asked him: "Are you suggesting that 50% of the faculty voted for George W. Bush in the last election?" His response: Silence.

I think it exceedingly ironic that many liberal arts institutions around the nation are kept alive by very generous donations from many conservative folks.

Too often faculty members forget that the college exists for the students - not for them. No students, no college.


9 posted on 08/23/2006 8:46:29 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: georgiarat

Of course it is ok to force homosexual material down the throats of grade school students...


10 posted on 08/23/2006 8:47:13 AM PDT by Edgerunner (The greatest impediment to world peace is the UN and the Peaceniks)
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To: cardinal4

CE and BCE have been in use since I was in college, which was 1986-90.


11 posted on 08/23/2006 8:47:54 AM PDT by Xenalyte (No movie shall triumph over "Snakes on a Plane.")
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To: ASA Vet

Um, no. Interns are workers who usually don't get paid.


12 posted on 08/23/2006 8:48:30 AM PDT by Xenalyte (No movie shall triumph over "Snakes on a Plane.")
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To: camle
Because to liberals sexual stimulation trumps everything else.

This was at Clemson. Liberalism ain't exactly running rampant there...I'm thinking this was a boneheaded mistake more then anything else.
13 posted on 08/23/2006 8:48:35 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: cardinal4

Christian Era
Before Christian Era.


14 posted on 08/23/2006 8:48:49 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Onelifetogive

I will be writing all of my papers with AD and BC. Screw liberal academia..


15 posted on 08/23/2006 8:51:07 AM PDT by cardinal4 (America, despite the usual suspects, stands firmly with Israel..)
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To: georgiarat

I went to Ann Patchett's website and read the excerpt from this book, "Truth and Beauty." I don't know whether it's obscene, or whether it promotes some sort of homosexual agenda, or whether it's just a dull book, but I do know that the brief excerpt contains at least six grammatical errors. Perhaps the professor intended to initiate "a lively debate" on grammar. If so, that "debate" is sorely needed. Don't even get me started on the difference between "it's" and "its."


16 posted on 08/23/2006 8:51:32 AM PDT by hsalaw
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To: georgiarat

what is the content about? Since the story is not disclosing it, is it some how another homosexual agenda book?

Brave New World has sex but that is not reviled.
1984 has sex but that is not reviled.


17 posted on 08/23/2006 8:52:24 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: joe fonebone

In college, back in the 70's, I turned in a essay from a National Lampoon article and got an A. It was garbage. That proved to me that no one ever reads that junk. Some assistant undergrad student just looks at them and if they looks okay, then you have a A..........


18 posted on 08/23/2006 8:53:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: RexBeach
I think it exceedingly ironic that many liberal arts institutions around the nation are kept alive by very generous donations from many conservative folks.

"The most fundamental fact about the ideas of the political left is that they do not work. Therefore we should not be surprised to find the left concentrated in institutions where ideas do not have to work in order to survive." --Thomas Sowell

19 posted on 08/23/2006 8:54:06 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Islamofascism ... bringing you the best of the 7th century for the past 1300 years.)
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To: cardinal4

Every time someone uses BCE -just remind them that BCE = Before the CHRISTIAN Era.

and CE = CHRISTIAN Era.

That will get their pinko panties in a knot up their .....


20 posted on 08/23/2006 8:54:21 AM PDT by TimesDomain (When a judge declares himself "MASTER", you become his "SLAVE")
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