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(Flashback) Peacetime Budgets in Wartime: The Coming Decline of the U.S. Military
U.S. Business & Industry Council ^ | March 14, 2003 | William R. Hawkins

Posted on 08/23/2006 2:57:22 PM PDT by Paul Ross

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To: indthkr

Barnett is a complete idiot and I do hope he reads this. Like all other past utopian visions, his notion of "core" purports to view the world as a frontier town and badlands surrounding it. Future war becomes as simple as taming the savages and putting in place law and order. The first mistake here is the conflate those who have technological development and wealth with those who are civilized. During the Cold War, we embargoed the uncivilized and kept them poor. Now, they have what they could not get back then. We've conned ourselves into thinking that the trappings of development and commercial economy has civilized them - it has not. We are going to be in a world of hurt. Expect the 2008 Olympics to be rather similar to the 1936 ones. Expect horrible, unthinkable things to develop in the 10 years after them, perhaps starting as early as the beginning of 2009.


61 posted on 10/26/2006 5:24:47 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: GOP_1900AD

Here is my comment, awaiting approval, at Barnett's blog:

If another major war between great powers happens, since the DoD are buying into your ideas, we'll probably lose. We are transforming our military into a frontier town's sheriff's department. We assume all we, "the core," have to do is tame the savages. We assume that other nations who have trappings of development and technology are also "core" - and maybe even civilized. What a big mistake that is. Do not conflate superficial development and economic integration with being civilized.

It would be a real burden for you to bear. How sure are you? Are you that sure? Are you willing to bear that burden if you are wrong?


62 posted on 10/26/2006 5:55:16 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: GOP_1900AD; mississippi red-neck; coconutt2000; presidio9; Brett66; xrp; gdc314; anymouse; ...

Might be sort of interesting to see a few of us making some deep and insightful comments at Barnett's blog. Please keep it highbrow, but don't hold back in terms of proper debate (Paul will love this!).

A topic recently discussed right here at FR:

http://www.thomaspmbarnett.com/weblog/archives2/003895.html#comments

His main blog page, lots of other meaty topics to weigh in on:

http://www.thomaspmbarnett.com/weblog/


63 posted on 10/26/2006 6:02:40 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: GOP_1900AD

I know Friedman isn't. Had a long chat with his old High School buddy, Dr. Ketroser last month. The Emporer is not so certain of the aptness of his glib analogies at all now-adays...even though W is demonstrably hooked on them.


64 posted on 10/26/2006 6:15:39 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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He's probably more likely to realize the error of his ways than Barnett is.


65 posted on 10/26/2006 6:22:51 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Paul Ross
The hemmorhaging continues.

People won't believe me when I say Rummy was and is one of the worst Secretary of Defense we've ever had. But it is CONGRESS who must make provisions for defense. On this both the DEM and the GOP get a F for FAILURE!!! My bookmarks show quite a few defense issues both in the Clinton years and the Bush years. Bush has us throwing away todays defenses for his pie in the sky vague promises of better systems down the road at some date. This was a Bush/Cheney ploy that did not work back then either. Speaking of which our current defense policies wreak of Cheney type bad judgment. Blaming the DEM's can't work anymore. The GOP is in charge and is failing to act like it. The GOP is acting like a bunch of Hubert Humphrey liberals.

66 posted on 10/27/2006 3:27:26 AM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: GOP_1900AD
"The first mistake here is the conflate those who have technological development and wealth with those who are civilized."

Exactly. Look no further than Iran, who is combining 20th Century weapons technology (nukes) with a 12th Century Worldview. Not a good combination, particularly when they have a powerful cash-flow machine to fund it (Oil).

Barnett's vision just tells everybody what they want to hear; it sounds good because it is a cheap, Something-for-Nothing proposition. We all just have to be friendly with our neighbor-states. It's they same kind of thinking that would propose that I not buy car insurance because my friend two houses down will happily bail-me-out if I initiate a 5-car pile-up on the freeway.

Barnett's "French-Style" thinking will ultimately lead us down a path to disaster.
67 posted on 10/30/2006 7:56:34 AM PST by indthkr
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