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Yale School of Medicine Requires Abortion Training for Ob/gyn Residents
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| 8/23/06
| Peter J. Smith
Posted on 08/23/2006 4:15:19 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: Jim Noble
>Anyone who writes to a Yale professor suggesting that future obstetrical surgeons not be trained in an essential procedure is an ignoramus.<
Well, yes, they are, but for some people, maternal death is trivial next to the possibility of a live birth. They'd be perfectly willing to stand aside and watch a woman die, if there was any chance at all of a live birth.
If you don't believe in abortion, don't practice it.
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posted on
08/23/2006 5:51:27 PM PDT
by
RSteyn
To: wagglebee
The fact that this is REQUIRED is very disturbing. This is like having a doctor train in methods of assisted suicide.
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posted on
08/23/2006 5:52:34 PM PDT
by
KoRn
To: wagglebee
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posted on
08/23/2006 5:54:09 PM PDT
by
cyborg
(No I don't miss the single life at all.)
To: crz
My point is: there is no reason to kill the baby first...yes the baby may die b/c of being removed if it is not yet viable (as in the case of tubal pregnancies/tubal removal) but sucking out the baby's brains prior to removing it does nothing to save/help the mother. Ever.
If a baby has to be removed b/c of maternal medical reasons then do it but there is no purpose, other than wanting a dead baby, to killing it first.
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posted on
08/23/2006 5:55:07 PM PDT
by
socialismisinsidious
( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
To: wagglebee
If I were an aging baby-boomer I'd sure be keeping an eye out for when-notice not "if"-they start teaching euthanasia....
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posted on
08/23/2006 5:55:32 PM PDT
by
mo
To: RSteyn
If you don't believe in abortion, don't practice it.That's a terrible argument.
"If you like Jews, don't work at Auschwitz"
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posted on
08/23/2006 5:57:06 PM PDT
by
Jim Noble
(I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
To: crz
I don't think that person has tubal pregnancies in mind. That is a medical exception.
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posted on
08/23/2006 5:57:17 PM PDT
by
cyborg
(No I don't miss the single life at all.)
To: socialismisinsidious
If a baby has to be removed b/c of maternal medical reasons then do itIf your wife were bleeding to death, and the very small baby had to be removed, would you not want an obstetrical surgeon who had been taught to do the procedure?
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posted on
08/23/2006 5:59:00 PM PDT
by
Jim Noble
(I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
To: KoRn
This is like having a doctor train in methods of assisted suicide.Assisted suicide is a poor choice of words.
Have you ever seen a death run by a doctor who is afraid to use morphine, or worse who doesn't know how? A doctor who has never heard of levsyn? A doctor who can't suppress the cough of a cancer closing off the trachea?
Teaching doctors how to use medicine even at the end of life is grossly neglected, because of misplaced fears of prosecution and lawsuits.
It's true that the same tools can be used to kill people, but so can scalpels and anesthetics.
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posted on
08/23/2006 6:03:49 PM PDT
by
Jim Noble
(I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
To: Axhandle
This is just the first step. PP is not happy with allowing residents to opt out. Performing abortions will become mandatory if there is no outcry at this step.
To: Jim Noble
If I were bleeding (say: placental abruption) then yes that baby would need to come out. My point is that the baby would not need to be killed/ripped apart in order for it to be removed. There is no medical reason to kill the baby in order to save the mother.....if it were necessary to kill the baby then what do they do with the 'wanted' babies in the case of abruption? Those babies are born live.
'Maternal health' is just a way for the pro abortion crowd to try and justify late term partial birth abortions.
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posted on
08/23/2006 6:11:08 PM PDT
by
socialismisinsidious
( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
To: Jim Noble
"Teaching doctors how to use medicine even at the end of life is grossly neglected, because of misplaced fears of prosecution and lawsuits." I very much understand your point there. I've seen doctors who don't understand and can't treat chronic pain. If a few vicodin over a few days doesn't fix it they are completely lost.
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posted on
08/23/2006 6:11:18 PM PDT
by
KoRn
To: conservative cat
I think it is less than 1% of all abortions.
I think they need to change the name of the procedure to...something like...saving the life of the mother?
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posted on
08/23/2006 6:14:44 PM PDT
by
RaceBannon
(Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
To: socialismisinsidious; Jim Noble
"partial birth abortion" is entirely a different issue than having a surgeon trained in properly removing the baby in order to save the mothers life.
I honestly think this entire thing has been blown totally out of proportion.
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posted on
08/23/2006 6:16:31 PM PDT
by
Gabz
(Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
To: Responsibility2nd
Last I heard, Yale was a private school.
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posted on
08/23/2006 6:19:42 PM PDT
by
obnogs
(We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. - Einstein)
To: wagglebee
Vile. I've read before that "not enough" doctors want to perform abortions any more; big concern for the death promoters.
To: wagglebee
Mary Bawza derives great pleasure from the practice of abortion ~ she might even enjoy abortions for their own pleasures.
These people are not right.
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posted on
08/23/2006 6:26:06 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: Jim Noble
Jim baby, pleeeaaazzze ~ you know very well the point of the Planned Parenthood program and involvement is to encourage OB/GYNs to do more abortions.
Otherwise PP wouldn't have gotten involved in this.
They're about as transparent as you.
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posted on
08/23/2006 6:30:32 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: Gabz
properly removing the baby
That is a nice euphemism, but that is not what these residents are being trained in. They are being trained in how to kill babies prior to removing them. There are ways to remove live babies in the case of emergencies....OBs are trained extensively in that. They are also trained in the removal of miscarriage.
Second year ob/gyn residents will have to complete two four-week rotations with PPC for training in abortion techniques
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posted on
08/23/2006 6:30:51 PM PDT
by
socialismisinsidious
( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
To: RSteyn
W
"For some people, maternal death is trivial next to the possibility of a live birth. They'd be perfectly willing to stand aside and watch a woman die, if there was any chance at all of a live birth." I've never in my life seen such a position advocated, whether in speech or in print. Please provide some links or documentation.
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posted on
08/23/2006 6:34:15 PM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
(Interested!)
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