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Yale School of Medicine Requires Abortion Training for Ob/gyn Residents
LifeSiteNews ^ | 8/23/06 | Peter J. Smith

Posted on 08/23/2006 4:15:19 PM PDT by wagglebee

NEW HAVEN, Connecticut, August 23, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Ob/gyn residents at Yale’s School of Medicine must undergo training in abortion procedures in a required residency program established by Planned Parenthood’s Connecticut branch (PPC).

Second year ob/gyn residents will have to complete two four-week rotations with PPC for training in abortion techniques such as vacuum suction, medical abortions, and other “family planning” services in a program entitled Family Planning/Ambulatory Surgery.

"Yale is very satisfied with the experience and training the residents are receiving at PPC and are especially happy with the number of patients the residents see," said Mary Bawza, chief operating officer of PPC to Planned Parenthood’s Choice! magazine.

Although the course is required in the residency curriculum, ob/gyn residents do not have to participate in any abortions if they sign a paper that states they believe abortion is against their “personal/religious” beliefs. However, residents cannot opt of learning the theoretical applications of the program, including techniques related to still-birth, miscarriage, and complications related to abortion. Students also cannot opt out of performing ultrasounds on women intending to have abortions.
 
PPC established the course last year as part a frantic campaign to replace the imploding and aging population of abortionists, whose numbers have declined 37% since the 1980s. Although worried about their population decline, PPC seems oddly determined to spread their abortion practices deeper into the heartland of the United States claiming studies indicate 87% of US counties and 97% of rural counties have no abortionists.

Comments to Yale may be sent to Chairman of the Department of Obstetrics, Gynecology & Reproductive Sciences and the department’s Residency Program Coordinator:

Charles Lockwood, M.D., Chairman of the Department of Obstetrics, Gynecology & Reproductive Sciences
chairobgyn@yale.edu

Patti Johnson, Residency Program Coordinator
patricia.m.johnson@yale.edu



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"Yale is very satisfied with the experience and training the residents are receiving at PPC and are especially happy with the number of patients the residents see," said Mary Bawza, chief operating officer of PPC to Planned Parenthood’s Choice! magazine.

So now murder is being called "satisfying."

1 posted on 08/23/2006 4:15:21 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 08/23/2006 4:16:09 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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Murder is now a "requirement" for OB/GYNs.

3 posted on 08/23/2006 4:17:18 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Training is one thing, performing is another.


4 posted on 08/23/2006 4:18:49 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Training is one thing, performing is another.

Exactly.

5 posted on 08/23/2006 4:20:17 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: wagglebee
I share your disdain for Planned Parenthood.

I do not see a problem with Yale's policy, given that they are educating future medical professionals:

"... ob/gyn residents do not have to participate in any abortions if they sign a paper that states they believe abortion is against their 'personal/religious' beliefs. However, residents cannot opt of learning the theoretical applications of the program, including techniques related to still-birth, miscarriage, and complications related to abortion. Students also cannot opt out of performing ultrasounds on women intending to have abortions."

The items in bold seem pretty important to know about.

6 posted on 08/23/2006 4:20:29 PM PDT by Axhandle (The sun feels good on my baboon heart.)
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To: wagglebee

Abortion. Brought to you by Your Tax Dollars.


7 posted on 08/23/2006 4:27:55 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning)
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To: Axhandle

Agreed. That was my first inclination...


8 posted on 08/23/2006 4:29:05 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: wagglebee

Good God, what a sick ****.


9 posted on 08/23/2006 4:29:12 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Higher visibility leads to greater zottability.)
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To: Axhandle

It would seem to me that these have ALWAYS been part of an OB/GYNs training, and I doubt that this was Planned Parenthood's reason for pushing this new program. The intent is clearly to train future abortionists.


10 posted on 08/23/2006 4:30:36 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

How many babies were murdered today.


11 posted on 08/23/2006 4:31:05 PM PDT by puppypusher
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To: wagglebee
"...thinking themselves wise, they became fools..."

May God have mercy on us.

12 posted on 08/23/2006 4:31:31 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (hack for liberty.)
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To: puppypusher

Over 3500 babies were slaughtered TODAY in the United States.

http://www.mccl.org/abortion_statistics.htm


13 posted on 08/23/2006 4:33:33 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: MeanWestTexan

But do they perform real abortions as part of the training?


14 posted on 08/23/2006 4:35:48 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (Stop the ACLU - Support the Public Expression of Religion Act 2005 - Call your congressmen.)
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To: wagglebee
Any obstetrical surgeon must be able to perform a surgical abortion at the drop of a hat, for all the reasons that therapeutic abortion may be necessary.

Virtually all of them are surgical emergencies.

Anyone who writes to a Yale professor suggesting that future obstetrical surgeons not be trained in an essential procedure is an ignoramus.

15 posted on 08/23/2006 4:37:20 PM PDT by Jim Noble (I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
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To: wagglebee
The intent is clearly to train future abortionists.

Also, the new generation of academic OB/GYNs are different from the old kindly grandfather types you might remember. A significant majority are now female, and I've met a fair number over the years that were militant, man-hating lesbos, who seemed to revel in extracting as many fetuses from as many wombs as possible. Sounds like they are in charge now at Yale. Imagine the misery a resident at this program will suffer if he exercises his right to conscientious objection.

-ccm

16 posted on 08/23/2006 4:37:50 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: wagglebee
"Although the course is required in the residency curriculum, ob/gyn residents do not have to participate in any abortions if they sign a paper that states they believe abortion is against their “personal/religious” beliefs."

Does Yale have a right to question their student's personal beliefs? I think they're called, "PERSONAL beliefs" for a reason. It's really none of their business.
17 posted on 08/23/2006 4:41:01 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell (Try reading the article before you post)
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To: Jim Noble

I am aware that certain procedures have long been part of an OB/GYNs training; however, since this is a new program started at the behest of Planned Parenthood, there is obviously more to it.


18 posted on 08/23/2006 4:41:12 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Jim Noble
therapeutic abortion may be necessary

These are FEW and FAR between...I cannot come up with a single reason why therapeutic abortion would be medically necessary. Could you enlighten me as to what reasons you could think?

19 posted on 08/23/2006 4:42:09 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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20 posted on 08/23/2006 4:43:09 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: ccmay

What a sexist attitude.

The two "kindly grandfather type" OB/Gyn's I ever had were the nastiest men I have ever encountered in my life..........serious medical problems were chalked up to my imagination..........


21 posted on 08/23/2006 4:43:59 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: ViLaLuz; MeanWestTexan

From a different article:

Planned Parenthood indicated some of the students trained in abortions could wind up becoming full-time abortion practitioners in the Midwest and Rocky Mountain states where few doctors want to do abortions.

Kat Campbell, a student in the abortion residency program, told Planned Parenthood that it "has been a great opportunity to gain exposure to abortion procedures."

http://www.lifenews.com/state1800.html


22 posted on 08/23/2006 4:47:08 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Yale's policy is fair enough in regard to those with moral objections. As long as Yale does make the exception it claims to make for them, and requires of such students only what the policy says is required, it's OK. About the mandatory participation in ultrasound when women are seeking abortions, remember that an ultrasound occasionally persuades a woman NOT to abort.

Complaining about this program doesn't help our cause with reasonable folks in the middle, who are the key to the issue.


23 posted on 08/23/2006 4:47:52 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Axhandle
The items in bold seem pretty important to know about.

And would be taught any any residency program. PP's involvement is political. Very, very few doctors will perform abortions and the pro-abortion lobby sees this as a real threat, so they have made a concerted effort across the country to force doctors to perform them.

24 posted on 08/23/2006 4:51:35 PM PDT by SampleMan
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To: wagglebee

Not all abortions are murder.

Some pregnancies bring great threat to the mother's life when things go wrong.

It is the healthy babies that are hurt and healthy mothers that are the guilty, I wish they would change the term when used on women who have toxemia or something.

I think you know what I mean. :)


25 posted on 08/23/2006 4:54:30 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: wagglebee

OK, let me get this straight. That capital of Leftie training, Yale, is making sure their OB/GYN practioners know how to properly kill a baby. The feministnazis don't believe in having males around or getting impregnated. Uh, so just exactly for whom and what are these future doctors planning to apply the OB part of their title?


26 posted on 08/23/2006 4:55:14 PM PDT by hardworking
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To: Axhandle

Sure, but I would hope that all ob/gyn programs are already providing the essential training without involving propagandists from Planned Parenthood. This sounds to me like a way to get PP into the midst of Yale's ob/gyn training program - surely Yale Med School is fully capable of training quality ob/gyns without the help of PP????


27 posted on 08/23/2006 4:55:37 PM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Mainstream Journalism)
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To: RaceBannon

Read more here:

http://www.lifenews.com/state1800.html


28 posted on 08/23/2006 4:57:45 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Jim Noble
Virtually all of them are surgical emergencies

There are surgical emergencies, but in no way does killing the baby first help the mother medically. The baby can be surgically removed live.
29 posted on 08/23/2006 4:58:08 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: gas_dr
I cannot come up with a single reason why therapeutic abortion would be medically necessary.

Abruption, eclampsia, malignancy, ....

30 posted on 08/23/2006 4:59:02 PM PDT by Jim Noble (I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
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To: Jim Noble

Completely agree. Luckily, Yale is not going to pay attention to "fan mail".


31 posted on 08/23/2006 4:59:48 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: RaceBannon
Some pregnancies bring great threat to the mother's life when things go wrong.

I believe labor can be and is induced in a lot of those cases. If the baby is viable, they can try to save it. Ripping limbs off and smashing brains in is not necessary.

32 posted on 08/23/2006 5:09:03 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: wagglebee; SampleMan; Enchante

Students who have a personal or religious objection to abortion going to the Planned Parenthood Clinic seems like a good thing to me, from the perspective of the pro-life movement. This is like the enemy inviting our spies to their wargaming sessions.


33 posted on 08/23/2006 5:12:43 PM PDT by Axhandle (The sun feels good on my baboon heart.)
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To: conservative cat

depends on the case itself, not all babies can be saved, and also, the life of the mother is more important. She already has family, already is functional.

Years ago, some hospitals sacrificed the mother to save the Baby! That is absurd.

Plus, we arent talking baout women choosing to end the baby's life, we are talking baout saving the mother's life.

two different cases.

My sister had to abort her child about 24 years ago or so, she was about 3.5 months along, maybe 4. She had a toxemia, gained over 50 pounds by that time, her heart rate was skyrocketing, other health issues, the choice was die or abort.

Her next pregnancy resulted in a 5 week preemie...who is now 20 and a stone cold fox President's List College student basketball star in Mass!...and if I catch you looking, Uncle Jim will beat you like a red-headed step child!


34 posted on 08/23/2006 5:16:24 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: conservative cat; wagglebee

The soft-on-abortion conservatives are out in force. No amount of spin can disguise the fact that the vast majority of abortions are ones of convenience and are morally abominable. Nevertheless any excuse will be used to push the agenda.


35 posted on 08/23/2006 5:34:48 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: wagglebee

Training ground for all those future murderers for money doctors(?).


36 posted on 08/23/2006 5:41:13 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: RaceBannon
Her next pregnancy resulted in a 5 week preemie...who is now 20 and a stone cold fox President's List College student basketball star in Mass!...and if I catch you looking, Uncle Jim will beat you like a red-headed step child!

I doubt you are going to catch me looking, unless this fox is male...then I might look. ; ) Also, while I am a redhead, I was never a stepchild as parents still married.

If someone is in imminent risk of dying (which is sometimes the case with toxemia), then maybe they need to do what they have to do. I wonder how often that happens in the grand scheme of things.

37 posted on 08/23/2006 5:41:13 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: socialismisinsidious

Wanna tell that to my wife? A tube preg' would have killed her if they would not have done what they did.


38 posted on 08/23/2006 5:42:18 PM PDT by crz
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To: wagglebee
This means that Christians, some sects of Jews, and others with religious/ethical scruples will no longer be able to train in Ob/Gyn at Yale.

If this becomes a pattern throughout the U.S., it may be impossible to find an ethical Ob/Gyn doctor who holds life sacred.
39 posted on 08/23/2006 5:48:05 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Axhandle
techniques related to still-birth, miscarriage, and complications related to abortion.
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

None of the above are abortions.
40 posted on 08/23/2006 5:51:09 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Jim Noble

>Anyone who writes to a Yale professor suggesting that future obstetrical surgeons not be trained in an essential procedure is an ignoramus.<

Well, yes, they are, but for some people, maternal death is trivial next to the possibility of a live birth. They'd be perfectly willing to stand aside and watch a woman die, if there was any chance at all of a live birth.

If you don't believe in abortion, don't practice it.


41 posted on 08/23/2006 5:51:27 PM PDT by RSteyn
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To: wagglebee

The fact that this is REQUIRED is very disturbing. This is like having a doctor train in methods of assisted suicide.


42 posted on 08/23/2006 5:52:34 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: wagglebee

43 posted on 08/23/2006 5:54:09 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: crz
My point is: there is no reason to kill the baby first...yes the baby may die b/c of being removed if it is not yet viable (as in the case of tubal pregnancies/tubal removal) but sucking out the baby's brains prior to removing it does nothing to save/help the mother. Ever.

If a baby has to be removed b/c of maternal medical reasons then do it but there is no purpose, other than wanting a dead baby, to killing it first.
44 posted on 08/23/2006 5:55:07 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: wagglebee

If I were an aging baby-boomer I'd sure be keeping an eye out for when-notice not "if"-they start teaching euthanasia....


45 posted on 08/23/2006 5:55:32 PM PDT by mo
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To: RSteyn
If you don't believe in abortion, don't practice it.

That's a terrible argument.

"If you like Jews, don't work at Auschwitz"

46 posted on 08/23/2006 5:57:06 PM PDT by Jim Noble (I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
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To: crz

I don't think that person has tubal pregnancies in mind. That is a medical exception.


47 posted on 08/23/2006 5:57:17 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: socialismisinsidious
If a baby has to be removed b/c of maternal medical reasons then do it

If your wife were bleeding to death, and the very small baby had to be removed, would you not want an obstetrical surgeon who had been taught to do the procedure?

48 posted on 08/23/2006 5:59:00 PM PDT by Jim Noble (I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
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To: KoRn
This is like having a doctor train in methods of assisted suicide.

Assisted suicide is a poor choice of words.

Have you ever seen a death run by a doctor who is afraid to use morphine, or worse who doesn't know how? A doctor who has never heard of levsyn? A doctor who can't suppress the cough of a cancer closing off the trachea?

Teaching doctors how to use medicine even at the end of life is grossly neglected, because of misplaced fears of prosecution and lawsuits.

It's true that the same tools can be used to kill people, but so can scalpels and anesthetics.

49 posted on 08/23/2006 6:03:49 PM PDT by Jim Noble (I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
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To: Axhandle

This is just the first step. PP is not happy with allowing residents to opt out. Performing abortions will become mandatory if there is no outcry at this step.


50 posted on 08/23/2006 6:04:02 PM PDT by SampleMan
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