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To: Chena

There was an imam in Cleveland talking nice, making friends with Priests and Rabbis, preaching love and peace, finally someone taped one of his services secretly. The hatred and violence he advocated was appalling. The koran teaches its followers to lie to infidels, decieve them, whatever it takes. Thomas Jefferson said muslims will fight by fraud or violence, whatever the situation calls for. I trust NO muslim until they renounce their religion, which explicitly forbids them to be at peace with non-muslims (unless they pay a tax). Any "religion" that instructs its followers to lie when needed and kill when possible will never earn my trust. If I had a say in it, no muslim would serve in the US military, seeing how the koran teaches a muslim to have no allegiance or faithfullness to any country not ruled by islam. I judge them by the beliefs in their holy book, it's the only way they should be judged.


36 posted on 08/25/2006 8:56:14 PM PDT by MadLibDisease (Liberalism is a philosophy of consolation for Western Civ. as it commits suicide: Jerry Pournelle)
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To: MadLibDisease

From everything I have studied and read, not every Muslim believes the twisted extremist, evil interpretation of the Koran. It's sort of like Christians. There are many different Christian "faiths", and we dispute the translations and meanings too. I had grandparents who were strict southern Baptists who believed that if we played with a deck of cards we'd all go to hell.

Our soldiers had Muslim soldiers protecting their backs and fighting right along side of them!! For you to insult them, is sick (understatement there). For you to say that because of their religion, they aren't fit to serve our country, is sick too (another understatement). People who talk such trash aren't fit to polish our soldier's boots, IMHO.

I can't even believe that FR is allowing such hate speech!


38 posted on 08/25/2006 9:11:36 PM PDT by Chena ("I'm not young enough to know everything." (Oscar Wilde))
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To: MadLibDisease; ARealMothersSonForever

I'd like to direct you to this article at the following link:

http://www.nysun.com/article/31393

Excerpt: Muslims in the Military: "His call sign is "Hadji," meaning "one who has made a pilgrimage to Mecca."

"It's a pilot thing," explains Colonel Douglas Burpee, the highest ranking Muslim officer in the U.S. Marine Corps. Now in his 23rd year of military service, Colonel Burpee recently returned from flying helicopters in Afghanistan.

"Everyone knows I'm a Muslim. When I fly, attached to my dog tags, I wear a pendant with a passage from the Koran," he says. "I try to set a good example based upon what I believe.... I can be a soldier and a Muslim at the same time. I have no problem with that."

Excerpt: "Certainly that's Colonel Burpee's view. "These people who commit terrorism have just adopted the face of Islam - nothing they say or do have anything to do with Islam," he says. "The Taliban is a terrorist organization - they are bad people doing bad things and they've attached religion to it. They are ruthless when it comes to killing people, but that's how you move helpless people around - you use fear."

Excerpt: "Out of the 1.4 million service men and women serving actively in the American military, an estimated 3,700 are Muslim, according to the Department of Defense."

Excerpt: "Perhaps a more typical portrait of a Muslim soldier in the U.S. military comes from Sergeant Youseff Mandour of the U.S. Army. He immigrated to America from Morocco at the age of 17 and joined the army at age 22. Now 25, he just returned from 12 months in Iraq. Like Colonel Burpee, he aspires to a lifelong career in the military. "I'm fighting for a better life and a belief in freedom," he says. "I had a chance to get involved. I learned the English language and appreciate everything this country has given to me. That's why I joined the Army. The U.S. is doing great things."

If I need to post more, then your hatred is beyond redemption. I hope you and others will read the links I've provided, I hope you will listen and learn and stop talking ridiculous "kill 'em all" sort of hate speech. It's wrong. It's simply, wrong. I believe that from the depths of my Christian, God loving, heart.





46 posted on 08/25/2006 9:34:43 PM PDT by Chena ("I'm not young enough to know everything." (Oscar Wilde))
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