CU student union votes to fire Churchill ( Ward )

Daily Camera ^ | August 25, 2006 | Anna Uhls

[GSlob]

The proper and fitting use for this churchill would be to put him in a formalin jar [do not waste whiskey, even cheap whiskey on him] and then send the jar to the Smithsonian. I'm not sure that the University of Colorado has the necessary museum facilities. There he could be studied to one's heart content [although I do not see there anything deserving of such a study in the first place].

[COEXERJ145]

Getting rid of tenured professors is the hardest thing on earth other than firing federal bureaucrats.

[george76]

Filing a false employment application, fabricating scholarship, and plagiarism are apparently fine with the other professors.

They must do the same themselves, too ?

[COEXERJ145]

In the world of tenure, plagiarism is the only thing that will get him. Everything else is forgivable.

[osideplanner]

Ethnic studies is for kids who thimk there parents didn't tell them enough about themselves and why they left some other country to come to the evil US.

It's to aloleviate the guilt felt by liberals who need to have relief from the feeling that the US gets away with all the evil.

And lastly, it provides a carre of teaching ethnic studies to subsequent classes so that future generations will be able to experience the angst.

[osideplanner]

and who "think their"

Now, how do I sign up for spelling?

[GSlob]

What guilt? FTB, with "T" standing for "the" or "them". As I like to say, those who want to send me on a guilt trip will have to pay first-class fare, round-trip.

[osideplanner]

I don't knmow any other way to explain these ethnic stidies departments.

My friend's daughter has a PhD from Yale in Chinese Studies. She was offered jobes by several agencies, a sh--pot of companies, and Yale. I don't know what good these other departments provide except feel-goodism.

[george76]

Is fabricating scholarship ok at the Universities ?

[COEXERJ145]

There is a lot that will be overlooked when it comes to tenured professors. I've had lengthy discussions with several professors at Texas A&M who hold tenure and all have said that the system is totally broken regardless of the university.

Good professors don't get it because they don't publish enough while mediocre professors are tenured because they've written dozens of books and articles as well as brought the university millions of research dollars.

The only things I've ever heard of a professor at A&M being dismissed for are plagiarism except for one who was dismissed because he was convicted of several felonies and sent to prison. There is one professor who is known to sleep with his students (never been a complaint but it is the worst kept secret on campus) but he is tops in his field and brings in tens of millions in research dollars every year so the administration conveniently look the other way.

[Calvin Locke]

You forgot Princeton. And Cornell. They've gone off rails of clear thinking based on logic and facts too.

[Calvin Locke]

"He takes away from the value of our degree."

Yeah, right. The *only* value is to that of racists, feel good education, and similar government jobs programs.

Real anthropologists probably wouldn't have any thing to do with these students.

They'll be more comfortable in the Sociology/Education departments where they can continue to study
how to screw up society, culture, and real peoples' lives without being held accountable or responsible.

[george76]

Did you see that Ward is not only claiming credit for other professors' written scholarship, but also copied other artists art work ?

He then sold some of the stuff on ebay and sold some copied art work directly. He got in trouble with ebay thru the copied ebay stuff.

When another sale was questioned by the direct purchaser, Ward said that it was not Ward's fault that the buyer did not know the art work was a fake.

[COEXERJ145]

The guy is a cheat and liar, no doubt about it. It should be a lot easier to dismiss people like that.

[AmishDude]

There are reasons why the academy fosters garbage like this and continues to allow it to grow. I have a simple solution: No tenure for the humanities. There are pretty much zero standards for scholarship in these fields and I think we have indulged them for far too long.

[AmishDude]

Anthropologists don't pander to their students enough, nor do they stroke minority activists and their guilt-feeling white patrons.

Wow! "Enough" must be a really high bar, then.

[AmishDude]

And don't forget the numbers. Having an "ethnic studies" department pretty much guarantees that the number of minority professors goes up. Even if Churchill were the world's foremost white expert on Cherokee culture and was more well-regarded than anyone in the field, including actual Cherokee, CU would not give him a second look.

Similarly for "women's studies".

Oh, and it provides a major that idiots can take and graduate in.

[GSlob]

'Real anthropologists probably wouldn't have any thing to do with these students.'
Why? A perfect tribe to study, starting with writing a learned treatise on their sexual mores, a la Margaret Meade... No need even to go a jungle forest in Baboonia.

[AmishDude]

Yeah, I think universities have to stop being for-profit institutions. The windfall they get from grants is really corrupting the academy in a profound way.

[george76]

There should be no life time tenure for any of them.

Maybe give them 5 or 10 year contracts with escape clauses.