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Cannabis should be decriminalized for the same reasons that alcohol is
The Prometheus Institute ^ | 8/28/2006 | Editorial

Posted on 08/28/2006 7:29:35 AM PDT by tang0r

It turns out that alcohol is legal for the simplest, most nostalgic, and most American reason of all. Despite its risks and harmful side-effects, adults are reserved right to drink because they are independent adults in a free country. For all of the empty rhetoric about economics and black markets, the end of Prohibition was due to a single principle: even if drinking may be bad for society, government has no right to keep the people from doing it. The ability to get drunk is an inalienable right that we have forever confirmed with the 18th Amendment.

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To: tang0r

No way. Actually, if alcohol was invented today, you shouldn't be able to get it without a prescription. The cannabinoids and the vehicle that delivers them (marijuana) causes serious damage to short term memory. Go talk to an old hippie if you don't believe me.


101 posted on 08/28/2006 8:56:08 AM PDT by Mogollon (Endangered species: Rats & Rino's)
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To: Sir Gawain
Does that mean that since prostitution is legal in Las Vegas, you'll be more inclined to have sex with a prostitute if you visit there? Is legality your moral code?

Hey everyone, this is someone who "gets it."  In my very humble opinion mind you.

 

 

102 posted on 08/28/2006 8:56:32 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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To: CodeToad
Illegals do every day.

Not any more. Around here, Central FL, anybody who is Hispanic gets a cross check on their SSN# and EVERYBODY gets a drug test.

Anybody who hires a drug positive job applicant is begging for trouble because their insurance carrier will not cover one iota of injury caused by him or to him.

All job related accidents are followed by a drug test.

And if an applicant fails a subsequent test he is either fired or the insurance company cancels.

103 posted on 08/28/2006 8:59:42 AM PDT by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: BenLurkin

Agreed, pot affectsthe mind for a long time. To equate alcohol with pot is not accurate. Alcohol really hurts people when taken to excess. Pot really hurts people when taken at all. There is no social smoking with pot. One inhale makes a person high and that is the end of it.

Kind of sad that this keeps coming up. That being said, the penalties for possession are a little bit too stringent.


104 posted on 08/28/2006 9:03:05 AM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: phs3
And you learned this where?

It was all in this documentary....

105 posted on 08/28/2006 9:03:27 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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To: Utahrd
Prostitution is illegal in Clark County (where Las Vegas is) and Washoe County (where Reno is) and it is legal in the more rural counties of Nevada.

Well you got my point.

106 posted on 08/28/2006 9:04:07 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: N. Theknow

Could you please clone your police officers and elected officials and send them to the rest of the country. We need them all the same.


107 posted on 08/28/2006 9:04:48 AM PDT by Col. George Rains (To Secure Peace, Prepare For War)
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To: 2ndClassCitizen
One inhale makes a person high and that is the end of it.

Clueless, but I'll give you a chance to defend yourself. You know this how, exactly?

108 posted on 08/28/2006 9:05:52 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Moonman62
Prohibition failed because it wasn't a prohibition.

LOL! Yeah, and communism failed because none of the communist countries practiced True Communism.

109 posted on 08/28/2006 9:06:42 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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To: tang0r

Wow, this time I agree with your spam. End the failed war on some drugs now.


110 posted on 08/28/2006 9:07:46 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: BenLurkin

Obviously, what is practiced by many people who call themselves "conservative" does not respect the basic conservative principle of small government.


111 posted on 08/28/2006 9:07:48 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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To: 2ndClassCitizen
Pot really hurts people when taken at all. There is no social smoking with pot. One inhale makes a person high and that is the end of it.

What a load of bravo sierra.

112 posted on 08/28/2006 9:07:50 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: 2ndClassCitizen
There is no social smoking with pot.

Well, not if you get a rep for "bogarting" and nobody will share with you, no....

113 posted on 08/28/2006 9:10:25 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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To: Col. George Rains
Could you please clone your police officers and elected officials and send them to the rest of the country. We need them all the same.

It's not the police and polilticians who are doing this.

It is the construction companies and insurance companies.

Granted not all of them might take it as seriously as some others do, but quality of work is up and workers' comp claims and unemployment are all down in that sector.

One site-development company I know personally is probably the strictest in the business. Their business has tripled since January 1 of this year with no insurance claims, workers' comp claims or people quitting.

They also reject about 50 job applicants a week for bad paper (10%) or drug test failures (90%).

114 posted on 08/28/2006 9:15:02 AM PDT by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: cyberaxe
.....the thing that makes me pause on this subject..... .....is that myself included..... .....I know hundreds of people that occasionally "use" alcohol (a glass of wine at dinner, a spot of Irish cream in coffee after dinner)..... .....in quantities that DO NOT impair..... .....but I have never met anyone that used pot..... .....in the same manner..... .....I dunno, it just seems that there isn't the "safe" consumption going on out there in the pot users..... .....maybe it's a non-issue..... .....but that's just my take on it.....

I have the same take. In India a little cannabis was traditionally boiled in milk with herbs considered healthful for the brain. The equivalent to drinking a glass of wine with dinner, I think. Very different from deeply inhaling and holding the smoke in your lungs until you're "stoned", as nearly all users do.

115 posted on 08/28/2006 9:15:32 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: Sir Gawain

I have read extensively on the subject.

Also, being a teenager when Woodstock occurred (I was to busy surfing at the time and was unaware of the "big" event). Also, I have seen enough others and the effects it has on them.

People who are into pot have real problems in their lives. I know that everyone has real problems, but the potheads are working through their problems at significantly lower level. Read some clinical literature, not that put out by a pot advocate or drug enforcer. Pot causes problems with short-term memory. People can not effectively deal with their problems in this state.

I do not believe that it is as destructive as some believe, and the penalties are too severe for possession. But it is bad news and should never be legalized. Logically possession of small amounts should be decriminalized, but the advocates would then be prone to declare total victory and twist the meaning of decriminalization beyond what it should be.


116 posted on 08/28/2006 9:18:11 AM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

I can tell that the pot lobby is active.


117 posted on 08/28/2006 9:19:32 AM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: MarkT

"how often have you read of a murder or robbery for a pack of cigarettes or a sixpack of beer? Yes, it does happen but VERY infrequently"

Ahh, but how many times have we heard of vicious crimes being committed BY someone high on drugs?


118 posted on 08/28/2006 9:20:18 AM PDT by delphirogatio
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To: Hong Kong Expat
but f*ck me I just hate hippies so much...

Ok, I'll bite...why?
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119 posted on 08/28/2006 9:21:16 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: 2ndClassCitizen
I can tell that the pot lobby is active.

How pithy of you. Doesn't change, however, the fact that your post was total bravo sierra.

120 posted on 08/28/2006 9:22:22 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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