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The First Post-Macaca GOP '08 Straw Poll (Allen Craters to 11.5%)
Red State.com ^ | 8.27.06 | machiavel

Posted on 08/28/2006 11:23:42 AM PDT by gopwinsin04

The results of the latest GOP Bloggers straw poll are in. The poll was posted on the Red State homepage over the weekend, and first-choice results are as follows (full results with RS results in parentheses).

Giuliani 24.6% (22.0%) Gingrich 21.1% (19.5%) Romney 12.8% (15.8%) Allen 11.5% (11.3%) Tancredo 6.7% (4.5%) McCain 6.4% (6.7%) Hagel 2.8% (3.3%) Brownback 2.5% (3.2%) Huckabee 1.5% (1.8%) Frist 1.1% (0.9%) Pataki 0.3% (0.3%)Read on...

The Macaca incident has clearly devastated Allen’s numbers in the blogosphere, his stronghold. He used to have sky-high favorability, largely because he hadn’t done anything to offend anyone. He also used to run first or second (tangling with Giuliani) with 20% to 30% in polls like this. Once undefined, he has now been defined in a hugely negative way, dropping to fourth with 11.5% support.

The only true direct comparison is the results for individual blogs. From July to August, Allen dropped 23.9% in net favorability among RedState readers. RealClearPolitics also ran the poll both months – and probably has an audience that’s even more plugged-in politically than RedState. On that site, Allen dropped an astonishing 41.6% points in a month, and now has 6.5% first place votes. Allen probably still retains some “true-believer” support among the more conservative sites of the blogosphere. Let’s see if that holds up.

Who’s the new conservative “it” candidate? Newt! The conservative mantle has shifted to Newt over the last few months. He got a huge boost last month for being all over the Israel-Hezbollah war. Allen’s implosion has given Newt’s people a reason to stick around, at least for a while. Vis Numar makes this development the headline, but inaccurately notes that his numbers went from +1% to +40% in a month. That was actually from a poll taken earlier in the year, but it highlights how far Newt has come.

Bottom line: It looks like Newt’s decision to stay out the race until November of ’07 could throw the race into some turmoil, with all the major campaigns calculating what happens if Newt gets in. He’s clearly trying to play kingmaker and anoint the preferred conservative if he doesn’t run, and numbers like this suggest he could pull it off.

Giuliani and Romney show positive movement. There’s a consistent pattern of Romney and Giuliani momentum among a few of the bigger blogs participating in the poll. Among RedState readers, Romney moved up a net 10.9% and Giuliani a net 10.8% in acceptability. On RealClearPolitics, Romney moved up 18.9% to Giuliani’s 12.5%. On Blogs for Bush, Giuliani moved up 22.8% and Romney was up 14.8%.

McCain supporters love Giuliani and Giuliani supporters are pretty fond of Romney – handy reference should either of the two offline frontrunners falter.

Men and boys by AcademicElephant Looks like the men are being seperated from the boys--but I'm still having trouble getting excited about any of them.

"I'm kind of old-fashioned. I like to engage my brain before my mouth." Donald Rumsfeld


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008polls; allen; allen2008; brownback; frist; gingrich; giuliani; giuliani2008; gop; hagel; huckabee; mccain; pataki; redstate; romney; tancredo
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To: gopwinsin04
right now I'd say the race is primed for a Jeb Bush or Arnold Schwartznegger to drop in.

Arnold is constitutionally ineligible.

21 posted on 08/28/2006 11:44:56 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: gopwinsin04
Arnold Schwartznegger ...when was the law changed?
22 posted on 08/28/2006 11:45:08 AM PDT by top 2 toe red (To the enemy in Iraq..."Don't bet on American politics forcing my hand!" President Bush)
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To: gopwinsin04

What state was Arnold born in?


23 posted on 08/28/2006 11:46:26 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: gopwinsin04

Lower third


24 posted on 08/28/2006 11:47:17 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
Rudy is still the man to beat in my opinion....and he CAN beat the hildabeast!

I know, the Rudy haters will come forth....no Rudy hater here!

25 posted on 08/28/2006 11:48:20 AM PDT by top 2 toe red (To the enemy in Iraq..."Don't bet on American politics forcing my hand!" President Bush)
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To: tiger-one

I noticed that the MSN media darling McPain is just above Hagel. He is going nowhere. Hehehehe.


26 posted on 08/28/2006 11:49:51 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: top 2 toe red
"Rudy is still the man to beat in my opinion....and he CAN beat the hildabeast!"

A dead raccoon could beat Hildabeast, even the RATS know that now.
27 posted on 08/28/2006 11:51:12 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Ronald Reagan didn't turn me into a Republican....Jimmy Carter did that!!)
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To: gopwinsin04
What the hell is a Macaca? Is it found in a diaper?
28 posted on 08/28/2006 11:53:41 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: wouldntbprudent

Is anybody even going to remember this let alone care when the primaries come around?

From all of the negative press he's been getting the past few weeks, it seems pretty clear to me that the 'Rats (and a lot of the Republicans) are trying everything they can to derail Allen because they see him as the real frontrunner in 2008 regardless of what any polls show.


30 posted on 08/28/2006 11:59:00 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: gopwinsin04

I never thought I'd see the day when Gingrich had a real shot of winning the nomination. But it looks like he might.



Too bad Buchanan burned his bridges a few years back.


31 posted on 08/28/2006 12:00:06 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: colorado tanker

Well, Allen did make a "not ready for prime time" impression.




You know what they say you only get one time.


32 posted on 08/28/2006 12:00:21 PM PDT by Blackirish
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To: gopwinsin04
Jeb would be the obvious choice and a fantastic candidate - if it weren't for his last name. Charges of a dynasty and all that.

I'd sure vote for him.

33 posted on 08/28/2006 12:01:48 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: NeoCaveman
I haven't read Coburn's book, but I read some reviews on Amazon. I always felt that the GOP caved when the Government Shutdown was painted by Clinton as evil. When Reagan was President and he vetoed the spending bills, he was blamed for shutting down the government. I think Newt could have passed a continuing resolution that kept government going on a more limited spending level, while planning a better PR campaign. Slick out slicked Newt, and Newt's megalomania hurt.
34 posted on 08/28/2006 12:01:48 PM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: wouldntbprudent
The Macaca incident has clearly devastated Allen’s numbers in the blogosphere, his stronghold.

Is this hyperbole? He went from 11.5% to 11.3%.

35 posted on 08/28/2006 12:04:19 PM PDT by Vigilanteman
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
Yeah, I remember some senior pubbies gleeful that the government was going to shut down. They should have been doing a p.r. campaign to throw the blame B.J.'s way instead of crowing about it - which accepted the blame in the public's eye.
36 posted on 08/28/2006 12:05:02 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: JohnnyZ

Romney is RINO scum?


37 posted on 08/28/2006 12:05:42 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: wagglebee
"Is anybody even going to remember this let alone care when the primaries come around? "

Good point. One only need to read the twaddle in the DUck room to see who they most fear in 2008...George Allen!
38 posted on 08/28/2006 12:06:11 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Ronald Reagan didn't turn me into a Republican....Jimmy Carter did that!!)
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To: gopwinsin04

LOL! I just noticed where Frist is. Pathetic.


39 posted on 08/28/2006 12:07:30 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia; Dog Gone; Ernest_at_the_Beach; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; Czar
You, Sir George, are right on the money with that astute analysis!!!

Allen totally lost me, however, when he went completely nuts over the totalitarian tainted concept of "Heritage Corridors," or anything even remotely like that that inhibits, or damages individual property rights, including the right to control, as well as own property in this great land!!!

40 posted on 08/28/2006 12:08:31 PM PDT by SierraWasp (With government as your savior from disaster, it must first be your master!!!)
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