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A North American United Nations? (Ron Paul)
House.gov ^ | August 28, 2006 | Ron Paul

Posted on 08/30/2006 9:28:44 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

Globalists and one-world promoters never seem to tire of coming up with ways to undermine the sovereignty of the United States. The most recent attempt comes in the form of the misnamed "Security and Prosperity Partnership Of North America (SPP)." In reality, this new "partnership" will likely make us far less secure and certainly less prosperous.

According to the US government website dedicated to the project, the SPP is neither a treaty nor a formal agreement. Rather, it is a "dialogue" launched by the heads of state of Canada, Mexico, and the United States at a summit in Waco, Texas in March, 2005.

What is a "dialogue"? We don't know. What we do know, however, is that Congressional oversight of what might be one of the most significant developments in recent history is non-existent. Congress has had no role at all in a "dialogue" that many see as a plan for a North American union.

According to the SPP website, this "dialogue" will create new supra-national organizations to "coordinate" border security, health policy, economic and trade policy, and energy policy between the governments of Mexico, Canada, and the United States. As such, it is but an extension of NAFTA- and CAFTA-like agreements that have far less to do with the free movement of goods and services than they do with government coordination and management of international trade.

Critics of NAFTA and CAFTA warned at the time that the agreements were actually a move toward more government control over international trade and an eventual merging of North America into a border-free area. Proponents of these agreements dismissed this as preposterous and conspiratorial. Now we see that the criticisms appear to be justified.

Let's examine just a couple of the many troubling statements on the SPP's US government website:

"We affirm our commitment to strengthen regulatory cooperation...and to have our central regulatory agencies complete a trilateral regulatory cooperation framework by 2007"

Though the US administration insists that the SPP does not undermine US sovereignty, how else can one take statements like this? How can establishing a "trilateral regulatory cooperation" not undermine our national sovereignty?

The website also states SPP's goal to "[i]mprove the health of our indigenous people through targeted bilateral and/or trilateral activities, including in health promotion, health education, disease prevention, and research." Who can read this and not see massive foreign aid transferred from the US taxpayer to foreign governments and well-connected private companies?

Also alarming are SPP pledges to "work towards the identification and adoption of best practices relating to the registration of medicinal products." That sounds like the much-criticized Codex Alimentarius, which seeks to radically limit Americans' health freedom.

Even more troubling are reports that under this new "partnership," a massive highway is being planned to stretch from Canada into Mexico, through the state of Texas. This is likely to cost the US taxpayer untold billions of dollars, will require eminent domain takings on an almost unimaginable scale, and will make the US more vulnerable to those who seek to enter our country to do us harm.

This all adds up to not only more and bigger government, but to the establishment of an unelected mega-government. As the SPP website itself admits, "The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America represents a broad and ambitious agenda." I hope my colleagues in Congress and American citizens will join me in opposing any "broad and ambitious" effort to undermine the security and sovereignty of the United States.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; antichristian; cuespookymusic; dishonesty; kookmagnet; morethorzineplease; paul; ron; sovereignty; spp; tinfoil
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To: stainlessbanner

Paul is turning into a conspiracy kook.


21 posted on 08/31/2006 8:38:05 AM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: stainlessbanner

No I haven't seen those statistics. I'm sure there are many such regulations. I DO NOT consider that a good thing.

There are far too many regulations from a through z and beyond, and this is the reason why.

When a representative has to stand up and defend new regulations, that's when you and I get a chance to affect the process. With NGOs, we get nothing but the shaft.


22 posted on 08/31/2006 8:48:29 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: DoughtyOne

SPP and FTAA are unrelated, but if and when FTAA kicks of, security issues will have to be addressed.


23 posted on 08/31/2006 9:59:23 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Seriously Ben, do you see an SPP as a benefit to our nation when we can't even get our own borders under control? Our borders are not under control and now we want to add a corrupt government to the south and drug cartel pressures to the equasion. This is like our worst immigration, border and homeland security nightmare squared.

The ultimate goal is to relax our border crossings between the United States and our two neighbors. How we could get more relaxed is beyond me, but that's the goal.

I do not support this.


24 posted on 08/31/2006 10:28:39 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: EagleUSA
. . . that little guy who ran for President and talked about the "giant sucking sound"...was right.

You might think he was correct, but the rest of us are wondering how many more decades we have to wait to see it.

25 posted on 08/31/2006 10:31:23 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Lunatic Fringe
MYTH The SPP does not attempt to modify our sovereignty

The SPP is a TRINATIONAL organization, that is paid for by US taxpayers which an AGENCY of the EXECUTIVE BRANCH of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

It is NOT SOVEREIGN because it is a TRINATIONAL agency.

In addition, it MODIFIES OUR SOVEREIGNTY by bypassing the authority of Congress to write laws, because it is a REGULATORY AGENCY.
26 posted on 08/31/2006 10:34:30 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Since when do U.S. citizens EVER have a chance to vote something down?

It ain't a republic, when a trinational agency writes regulations for the American people.
27 posted on 08/31/2006 10:35:30 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: stainlessbanner
Here is the link to the previous thread.
28 posted on 08/31/2006 10:36:24 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: hedgetrimmer
That's right, you should write them. All hail!
29 posted on 08/31/2006 10:37:15 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Thanks 1rudeboy - I did a search and turned up nothing.


30 posted on 08/31/2006 10:39:34 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner

I searched 'all words' under 'post time,' and "united nations north american." My experience is that searching under 'relevance' (which is the default) is practically useless.


31 posted on 08/31/2006 10:41:36 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

What an idiotic thing to say.


32 posted on 08/31/2006 10:42:49 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
Let me run a little bit of advanced Civics past you. Who, generally, writes regulations in our form of government?
33 posted on 08/31/2006 10:54:15 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: DoughtyOne
The Prez can address this administratively, but until Congress gets involved and appropriates some money, it doesn't amount to much.

And Congress has to put immigration reform in place before they can deal with SPP.

34 posted on 08/31/2006 11:28:19 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
The president is acting extra-constitutionally.

The power to organize the executive branch. Congress has the authority to create, abolish, reorganize, and fund federal departments and agencies. It has the authority to assign or reassign functions to departments and agencies, and grant new forms of authority and staff to administrators. Congress, in short, exercises ultimate authority over executive branch organization and generally over policy.

Congressional oversight manual http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL30240.pdf

That agency, the SPP, should not have been created, nor funded unless Congress authorized it.
35 posted on 08/31/2006 12:39:09 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Ben Ficklin

Ben, the United States should be responsible for it's own safety and sovereignty. That's the long and short of it. If Mexico and Canada want to increas their security, I'm all for it, but if they don't, I could care less. If they want to implode or sink into the primordial muck, I shouldn't have to give a damn.

If we want to be safe, all we have to do is get our borders under control and stop letting people immigrate or even travel here from terrorist states.

The explanation for joining of our security, is preposterous. It's unsupportable for people who wish our nation to be sovereign, for our Constitution to continue to mean something.


36 posted on 08/31/2006 1:10:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

We have zero ability to control the corrupt oligarchy referred to as Mexico..and we never will short of a military invasion. However, Mexico has adversely impacted the U.S.


37 posted on 08/31/2006 8:04:48 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: hedgetrimmer

What does "extra-constitutional" mean?


38 posted on 09/01/2006 9:59:31 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: DoughtyOne
This is like two different conversations.

As I might try to discuss the desirability of securing the supply chains that come with a world market economy in a post 9-11 world, your probably thinking about the "chi coms" operating a port and find it a threat.

You have been overtaken by time.

39 posted on 09/01/2006 10:07:42 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin; hedgetrimmer

Whatever she wants it to mean. [chuckle]


40 posted on 09/01/2006 10:08:32 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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