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Belgian Authorities Destroy Holocaust Records
Brussels Journal ^ | 8-31-2006 | Paul Belien

Posted on 08/31/2006 3:46:21 PM PDT by spkpls4

The Belgian authorities have destroyed archives and records relating to the persecution and deportation of Jews in Belgium in the 1930s and 1940s. Some of this happened as recently as the late 1990s. This was revealed during hearings in the Belgian Senate last Spring. Though the Senate report dates from 4 May the Belgian press has not yet mentioned the affair. The Senate report says that “documents about the period 1930-1950 have been destroyed on a massive scale.”

The systematic destructions of the records of police and judiciary from the 1930s and ’40s happened chiefly in Brussels and Wallonia, the French-speaking south of Belgium. The Senate report states that in Flanders, the Dutch-speaking north of the country, archives have been saved thanks to conscientious archivists. “This policy – of having competent archivists manage dead archives – contrasts with the disastrous situation at the offices of the public prosecutors in Brussels and Wallonia.”

While the records about the persecution of the Antwerp Jewry have been kept intact, documents about the fate of the Jews in Brussels and in French-speaking cities with large pre-war Jewish communities, such as Charleroi and Liège, were purposely destroyed. In Charleroi all the archives relating to the 1930s and the war years have vanished. In Brussels the judicial archives are present “until the early 1930s, while there is (almost) nothing left of the period thereafter,” the report says, adding that “Reference is often made to the 1944 fire of the Palais de Justice to explain this lack of archives [...] However, there is no doubt that large parts of the Brussels judicial wartime archives were destroyed after 1944.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: censorship; erasure; recyclebinofhistory; revisionism; whitewash
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To: toddlintown

I absolutely love Belgian beer.


41 posted on 08/31/2006 5:33:02 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: Salem
'Beerfest' awash in raunch, and some laughs

Which is why they're flushing it down the toilet. Jews? What Jews? No Jews here!

More than half a century later, it's odd. Even the Red Cross may be opening their records, now that the heirs of the dead are also dead.

Even for a Euro, bad taste.

42 posted on 08/31/2006 5:33:23 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: spkpls4

It only proves that nothing has changed since Hitler.


43 posted on 08/31/2006 5:36:31 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: SJackson
"Even for a Euro, bad taste."

Indeed....

44 posted on 08/31/2006 5:46:12 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: 2111USMC

It's spoiled and soured and they call it a style.

If it was English ale and tasted like the lactobacillus-ridden swill that's considered a lambic in Belgium, the British brewery would fold from lack of customers. If it's not infected, it's oxidized. I also love their practice of using old and stale hops.

All the cute little stories about spiders and their webs in the old farmhouse breweries, the unique wild yeasts that makes their beers so sour (spoiled) in their open fermenters, and that fact that they have to blend half the crap to make it drinkable tells me that they're pulling the wool over the eyes of many, especially American beer geeks.

And after reading the original subject of this post...I wouldn't give them a penny of my beer money. I'll take an American craft beer with an overdose of some spicey Cascade or even a BudMillerCoors before I'd waste my time or money with these European morons and their products.


45 posted on 08/31/2006 5:47:44 PM PDT by toddlintown (IT)
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To: spkpls4

*8The Belgian authorities have destroyed archives and records relating to the persecution and deportation of Jews in Belgium in the 1930s and 1940s**

This is so sad. Maybe they will be the site of the next Auschwitz.


46 posted on 08/31/2006 5:47:50 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Publius6961
... no more moral authority to claim legitimate righteousness than Uganda or Rwanda do.

And while we're on the topic of Africa, let's not get started with the Belgians in the Congo in the XIX Century. Ghastly.

47 posted on 08/31/2006 5:54:47 PM PDT by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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To: toddlintown

You call it beer??? 10 years old urine.


48 posted on 08/31/2006 6:08:54 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: spkpls4
The kriek (cherry) isn't too bad either if you like flavored beers.

Might as well drink wine. The real character of beer is lost when you flavor it with fruit. Lambics are more like wine coolers than beer IMO.

Here is a good Belgian beer:


49 posted on 08/31/2006 6:10:52 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: spkpls4

Next, Holland and maybe France. That way, when the new Muslim majority wants to openly teach their lies about it to all children, not just their own, what will be left to stand in their way? Certainly not the French, at least.


50 posted on 08/31/2006 6:22:00 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: toddlintown
even a BudMillerCoors

Gag me. Talk about beer that tastes like it's been watered down with urine.

There are plenty of fine small brewerys in this country that make the best beers in the world.

And my Favorite Red Ale:


51 posted on 08/31/2006 6:23:36 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: KJC1

Belgium is caving to it's newest immigrant group, it would seem at least tacitly. Soon they won't have to worry whether or not their beer sucks, because Muslims abstain from alcohol.


52 posted on 08/31/2006 6:23:38 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I'm more a Goose IPA man myself.


53 posted on 08/31/2006 6:25:57 PM PDT by toddlintown (IT)
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To: toddlintown
I've never developed a taste for IPAs. My palette likes more body. I have a soft spot for porters. There is a great selection of porters from so many small US breweries.
54 posted on 08/31/2006 6:34:09 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: toddlintown

"Unbelievable. And their beer sucks too."

how many did you try?

I have tried hundreds, and while some suck (particularly their macro's), some are some of the best in the world. There is certainly no greater concentration of breweries, beers, or beer knowledge anywhere else in the world (and I include britain and germany in that).


55 posted on 08/31/2006 7:03:37 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: spkpls4

Makes ya sick.


56 posted on 08/31/2006 7:05:19 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Leaning on the everlasting arms.)
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To: toddlintown

"If it was English ale and tasted like the lactobacillus-ridden swill that's considered a lambic in Belgium, the British brewery would fold from lack of customers. If it's not infected, it's oxidized. I also love their practice of using old and stale hops.

All the cute little stories about spiders and their webs in the old farmhouse breweries, the unique wild yeasts that makes their beers so sour (spoiled) in their open fermenters, and that fact that they have to blend half the crap to make it drinkable tells me that they're pulling the wool over the eyes of many, especially American beer geeks."

There is no doubt Cantillon in particular is fitting into the niche you describe, but you might consider the business the 3 Fonteinen and Cantillon cafes do, with locals, in sale of their products and figure out who is fooling whom.

Tastes vary. Lambic and gueuze, like coffee and cigars, are acquired tastes and not everyone will like them, regardless of quality.


57 posted on 08/31/2006 7:07:32 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: ChildOfThe60s

One interesting (if over-priced ) product I tried is the meantime london porter, which if the label is believable, actually is a blend of beers rather than the normal single batch without unmalted (roasted) barley that stouts use. I have found considerable batch variation in it but when it is good it is quite good.

Salopian has a pleasant porter as well. The one thing americans seems to have really taken over is imperial stouts, which afaik they have essentially no competition at all anymore in but many breweries do very well.


58 posted on 08/31/2006 7:13:07 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: toddlintown

They may be incompetant neuvo-fascists...but if you think Belgian beer sucks, you really don't know beer.


59 posted on 08/31/2006 7:19:02 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns

a few gueuzes and fruit lambics

60 posted on 08/31/2006 7:22:10 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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