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CA: Legislature sends single-payer health care bill to governor
San Diego Tribune ^ | Aug. 31, 2006 | Don Thompson

Posted on 09/01/2006 11:57:01 AM PDT by FairOpinion

Under the amended bill, California residents essentially would pay their health insurance premiums, copays and deductibles into a state-funded health insurance program. Money the state spends on health care also would go into the new system.

Her bill is opposed by the insurance industry and legislative Republicans, who have said it amounts socialized medicine.

Schwarzenegger has said he opposes so-called single-payer health care systems.

(Excerpt) Read more at signonsandiego.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: cabills; calegislature; california; callegislation; sb840; schwarzenegger; socializedmedicine
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Without Arnold, we would end up with this monster.
1 posted on 09/01/2006 11:57:05 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Arnold had better veto this bill. I cannot believe he would be foolish enough to sign this bill after the global warming bill. There is no question he is taking the GOP vote as a given. Arnold is counting on the base figuring Phil would be far worse. Which is true of course.
2 posted on 09/01/2006 12:04:38 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Uncle Hal

Let's hope there will soon be a proposition to stop the new global warming law from being enacted.


3 posted on 09/01/2006 12:05:57 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: FairOpinion

Get out the big veto pen, Ahnuld.


4 posted on 09/01/2006 12:09:57 PM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: FairOpinion
If they didn't know the governor would veto it, it never would have passed.

This is just for show.

5 posted on 09/01/2006 12:19:06 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Angelides v. Schwarzenegger is like deciding between ebola and cancer, respectively.)
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To: FairOpinion

CO2 reduction, single payer healthcare (private insurance would be banned), minimum wage increase...California seems hellbent on suicide.


6 posted on 09/01/2006 12:20:53 PM PDT by mak5
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To: FairOpinion

If Phil Angelides wins, all of the crap Arnold is vetoing will be signed. California would become Sweden times two.


7 posted on 09/01/2006 12:21:54 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: FairOpinion

I'm confused. What is "single-payer"? Is that some sort of code words for health insurance? It almost sounds like somebody is trying to hide something.


8 posted on 09/01/2006 12:36:02 PM PDT by sportutegrl (A person is a person, no matter how small. (Dr. Seuss))
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To: FairOpinion
Without Arnold, we would end up with this monster.

But we should happy that he is going to sign a dumbass so-called global warming bill that will decimate California's manufacturing and industry?

We should be happy that he's going to sign a driving while talking on cell-phones ban?

We should be happy that he's going to sign a smoking while driving ban?

We should be happy about the scores of other liberal Democrat nanny-state bills he's going to sign? Because boot-licking party-before-principle enablers like you have (wrongly) convinced him that Republicans will voter for him no matter what. So he feels free to act like the commie-socialist he really is.

9 posted on 09/01/2006 12:38:37 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The California Republican Party needs Arnold the way a drowning man needs an anvil.)
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To: TheDon
Let's hope there will soon be a proposition to stop the new global warming law from being enacted.

It's called a REFERENDUM. They are very expensive and a lot of signatures must be gathered in a very short amount of time. I bet if they paired up two referendums at the same time they might have a chance. The cell phone while driving ban comes to mind.

10 posted on 09/01/2006 12:40:55 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The California Republican Party needs Arnold the way a drowning man needs an anvil.)
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To: sportutegrl

Single payer = state run health insurance, aka socialized medicine.

You pay lots of taxes to cover yourself and everyone else who doesn't pay, then healthcare is rationed and you die, while waiting for diagnosis and treatment.

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National Healthcare = Stethoscope Socialism


http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16494


A national healthcare system may be the Holy Grail of American liberalism. If only the government managed medicine, the argument goes, costs could be restrained, quality assured, and access extended from the poshest beach house to the humblest shotgun shack. On NBC’s “Meet the Press” last fall, Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D.–Ill.) advocated a “universal health-care system over the next 10 years.” If Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D.–N. Y.) reaches the Oval Office, she likely would take another crack at socialized medicine, as she did so disastrously in 1994.

Amy Ridenour of the National Center for Public Policy Research sees this model more as a poisoned chalice. Her Washington-based free-market think tank (with which I am a Distinguished Fellow) has begun educating Americans on the massive belly flop that is state-sponsored healthcare. Wherever bureaucrats control medicine, the wise money says: “Don’t get sick.”

It would be bad enough if national healthcare merely offered patients low-quality treatment. Even worse, Ridenour finds, it kills them.

Breast cancer is fatal to 25 percent of its American victims. In Great Britain and New Zealand, both socialized-medicine havens, breast cancer kills 46 percent of women it strikes.





Healthcare in Canada, a true test of patience , says survey

http://www.medindia.net/news/view_news_main.asp?x=13727


A survey conducted among many Canadian households has revealed that nearly 40 per cent of the respondents were unable to realize timely medical guidance and facilities, especially during the bygone three months.

The Decima poll conducted amongst 3,000 Canadians has shown that 81 per cent of households required medical care during the previous three months and felt the waiting times were unwarranted. Many felt that emergency care and appointments with specialists were unduly delayed.

Among total respondents, 37 percent felt, at least one person in their household had been denied timely medical assistance. The percentage of people facing indifference from healthcare was found to be higher in households that required medical care urgently or needed to meet with a specialist.



11 posted on 09/01/2006 1:16:12 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: calcowgirl

Tom McClintock is NOW on KOGO 600am

He is saying state spending worse now than 2003.

Revenue up 22 percent
but Spending up 29 percent

"greenhouse" bill will increase electricity costs 20 percent


12 posted on 09/01/2006 1:18:43 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: sportutegrl

"single payer" is just code for "you will have to bribe your doctor under the table to get anything looked at"

(see europe, see england)


13 posted on 09/01/2006 1:19:25 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: calcowgirl

You can listen online

http://www.kogo.com/main.html


14 posted on 09/01/2006 1:20:58 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: calcowgirl; NormsRevenge; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Mark Larsen KOGO 600AM will interview RINOld on Tuesday 1:00PM
http://www.kogo.com


15 posted on 09/01/2006 1:32:46 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: ElkGroveDan
But we should happy that he is going to sign a dumbass so-called global warming bill that will decimate California's manufacturing and industry?

You and the anti-Arnolds said it will. Arnold's been fairly pro-business and always pushing a hydrogen economy and other technologies which I'd think would appeal to conservatives who want to get off depending on foreign oil from places like Mexico. Better stewardship of the environment is a good thing. Business won't do much of that on their own because it might cost money they'd rather save.

We should be happy that he's going to sign a driving while talking on cell-phones ban? We should be happy that he's going to sign a smoking while driving ban?

Driving is *not* a right. It's a well regulated activity that you can only participate in by accepting the gov't oversight via licensing.

Cell-phone use while driving is clearly the leading distraction in accidents today according to statistics. Curbing that abuse because of irresponsibility in the name of safety is what gov't should do. It's not any different from DUI rules because you're trying to save others from being harmed by people too irresponsible for the 'ideal' lightly regulated environment. That's only ideal where there's 100% personal responsibility.

I'd rather you be 'inconvenienced' by not being allowed to use your hand-held cell while driving than a woman run your kid down in a lighted cross walk because she wasn't paying attention. The smoking ban in autos may reduce health problems (such as asthma) of young children trapped in cars with idiots who continue to smoke which could almost be considered child abuse.

16 posted on 09/01/2006 1:49:07 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace high taxes, gay weddings with Angelides.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Nothing so far on either subject!

http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/elections_j.htm#2006General


17 posted on 09/01/2006 1:51:36 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: FairOpinion
About delays, you might find the same opinions among users of HMO care.

Since I'm a direct-pay costumer, not having my health coverage subsidized by employer or gov't, anything to reduce cost or improve service is something I'm interested in.

18 posted on 09/01/2006 1:52:52 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace high taxes, gay weddings with Angelides.)
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To: FairOpinion

This is a political strategy at play to put the Governor in a tight spot on a emotional issue in a election year, the legislature is smart enough to stand this controversial bill to a popular govenor who would probably veto it.


19 posted on 09/01/2006 1:55:28 PM PDT by GregH
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To: FairOpinion

Will a Fed. Employee in Kali be allowed to opt out? He already has health ins. which he is charged a premium for. (Dumb ques.? Probably.)


20 posted on 09/01/2006 1:57:24 PM PDT by Waco
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