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1 posted on 09/01/2006 2:16:50 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: Joe Brower
BANG!
2 posted on 09/01/2006 2:17:38 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

My gosh. I forgot how many deaths each year are caused by law-abiding gun owners! We need to shut them down! And think of the savings in correctional costs we obtain when gangbangers kill each other. The key is to let them bleed in the street, or insist ambulances observe the speed limit answering another call to a Darwinian dispute.


3 posted on 09/01/2006 2:19:58 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: neverdem
AHSA

Hmmm, the American Horse Show Association (AHSA) might take exception at the use of those letters. And they've been around for a very long time.

4 posted on 09/01/2006 2:20:33 PM PDT by AFreeBird (If American "cowboy diplomacy" did not exist, it would be necessary to invent it.)
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To: neverdem

LOL! Leftists are so fracking stupid they think they are deceiving people. LOL! LOL!


5 posted on 09/01/2006 2:30:54 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: neverdem

I simply can't believe that our own media would lie to us!

How could they?

:: sobs ::


6 posted on 09/01/2006 2:34:10 PM PDT by IncPen (Bush Iraq Truth WMD http://freedomkeys.com/whyiraq.htm)
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To: neverdem
This month's NRA mag (American Shooter) does a good piece on this ridiculous attempt at incrementalism (at best) or more likely pure deceit (at worst) by the gun banners at AHSA.

When will these gun banners learn that us NRA members and 2nd Amendment advocates aren't quite as stupid as they believe? Oh, that's right, they think that we are all knuckle-dragging cavemen being dupped by the all-powerful "gun industry," which really isn't all that big or powerful.

Wonder if they will ever realize that the NRA's real power comes from the well informed grass roots that form the foundation of the organization? Probably not -- would take too big of an adjustment in their thinking feeling process.

7 posted on 09/01/2006 2:36:02 PM PDT by piytar
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To: neverdem

Socialists have killed more people than guns have.


8 posted on 09/01/2006 2:41:46 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: neverdem
China's 2nd Amendment...That's what these socialists really want for the US.


10 posted on 09/01/2006 2:49:50 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: neverdem

See my post on "Beware AHSA!" for more extensive details. I especially recommend the triggerfinger.org and John Lott's comments on how AHSA is a Democrat Trojan Horse:

http://triggerfinger.org/weblog/entry/6695.jsp be sure to check out his hotlinks to John Lott's website and his links about how they changed their domain registration to hide their true nature as a Democratic front http://johnrlott.tripod.com/2005/08/...n-of-fake.html. For triggerfinger you have to keep clicking on the hotlinks and read them through to get to all the details. I've put much of his original post below, when you go to his site many of the phrases will open up as hotlinks to source webpages.


17 posted on 09/01/2006 4:25:49 PM PDT by Oakleaf
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To: neverdem
The Drive By Media keeps peddling lies. But they don't have as much impact because now they can be quickly exposed.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

28 posted on 09/02/2006 3:27:48 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem

More from John Lott on AHSA and DLC (Democrat Leadership Council relationships):

http://johnrlott.tripod.com/2005_08_01_johnrlott_archive.html

8/3/2005
Democrats set up fake organizations to support gun control policies

Below is some information that was sent to me. I haven't had time to check these claims out.

UPDATE: Other updated discussions on this misleading website can be found at here and here. The first link has information by Dan Z that, among other things, "American Hunters and Shooters Association's (AHSA) president, John E. Rosenthal, is also the founder of Stop Handgun Violence, Inc."



Democratic Leadership Council use PR firm to push more Gun Laws

A Washington based PR Firm called DCS - Internet Advocacy Group thats used by a list of who's who in the Democrat party as well as the official PR firm for the Democrat leadership Council (DLC) that Sen. Hillary Clinton is the 'Chair' member as well as reportedly hand pick DCS to do ALL of the DLC PR work.

DCS Has register a bogus 'Pro-Gun' sportsmen group in the attempt to make it appear as hunters and trap shooters are in favor of Assault weapon 'bans as well as other anti gun related issues.

By creating this made up group called The American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA), who will inevitably be used in future Democrat led anti gun campaigns in the near future as so called 'expert' witnesses or a 'sane' voice of sportsmen. just so the anti gun democrats can grandstand for gun control non-issues via their willing accomplishes in the press. I'd imagine the closer we get to the '08' presidential election the more (AHSA) will be in the news.

Dick Morris , former Clinton PR man has stated numerously how the Democrats and Sen. Hillary have personally created made up Internet based advocacy groups repeatedly in the past to drum up false public support to site at their press conferences and Senate hearings, just so the Democrats will get their names put out in the news. According to Morris, During the Clinton administration there was a brainstorming group under then first lady Hillary's oversight inside the white house who did this kind of fabricated PR all the time.

So who did DCS make as the head of their bogus gun group, well none other than John Rosenthal, Co founder of Stop Handgun Violence (SHV). SHV has supported every anti-second amendment rights bill since the organizations creation.The personal pet anti gun group of the anti-gun Democrats.

The following background on all involved was uncovered.

[1.] The bogus Pro gun group: The American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA) is located at: 600 Pennsylvania Ave SE, suite 200, Washington, District of Columbia 20003 As listed on their website and on their domain name registration.

Its domain name: http://www.huntersandshooters.com was registered on 25-Apr-05 by Registrant:DCS - Internet Advocacy Group, 600 Pennsylvania Ave SE,suite 200,Washington, District of Columbia

20003 As listed on DCS website and on their domain name registration.
DCS website is located here: http://dcscongressional.com/

[2.] The Democrat Leadership Council http://www.dlc.org/
is located at: 600 Pennsylvania Ave SE, suite 400, Washington, District of Columbia 20003 As listed on their website and on their domain name registration.

[3.] The PR Firm called DCS- Internet Advocacy Group http://dcscongressional.com/
is located at: 600 Pennsylvania Ave SE, suite 200, Washington, District of Columbia 20003

[4.] So ALL three groups:The Democrat leadership council (DLC) , DCS - Internet Advocacy Group and The American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA) Are located in the same building and all three groups are pushing to take away your rights via their made up causes for the sake of getting their faces in the news.

According to Bernstein Management Corp. the Property Managements website: http://www.bernsteinmgmt.com/
Location: 600 Pennsylvania Avenue, SE Washington, DC,
Contact Number: (202) 363-6301 Austin Herndon

Please click through on the main link to get the original source for this.
posted by John Lott at 3:00 PM


29 posted on 09/02/2006 3:57:35 AM PDT by Oakleaf
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To: neverdem; All

NRA Free Hunters

33 posted on 09/02/2006 12:36:43 PM PDT by EdReform (Protect our 2nd Amendment Rights - Join the NRA today - www.nra.org)
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