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U.S. NO LONGER REPRESENTS JUSTICE - RULES FOR LITTLE PEOPLE ONLY
Vanity | 3 September 2006

Posted on 09/03/2006 5:23:24 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

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To: Mark was here
Who is property, are you property or am I? If my service is required to for you to to obtain your objective, can I claim a part of it. If my service is essential for you to obtain your objective can I require you to surrender a portion of it to me? This is aside from you hiring me from in front of Walmart
61 posted on 09/03/2006 6:39:03 AM PDT by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State, rats are evil.)
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To: wizr

As a former rule writer I was fortunate to work in an environment where the lawyers didn't get to write the rules ~ they might have reviewed them for "consistency" and "adherence to law", but they didn't write them.


62 posted on 09/03/2006 6:39:08 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Amos the Prophet

Your depiction of the American justice system is very disturbing, the stuff of nightmares. However, I believe it is an accurate depiction.


63 posted on 09/03/2006 6:40:06 AM PDT by gas0linealley
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To: DCPatriot
#2...what's wrong with management setting attendance rules, policy?

Nothing, as long as they use realistic measures and apply it fairly. When driving 35 miles through gridlocked rush hour traffic, I left 2 hours before work. That worked fine except for an occasional day when there was a serious accident. Management told everyone that being even one minute late would not be tolerated. I and the other older long term employees were fired. Younger, cheaper employees and (dare I say it?) pretty women were allowed to be late or absent all they wanted. Life is a bitch.

65 posted on 09/03/2006 6:42:45 AM PDT by Sender (What was the best thing before sliced bread?)
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To: ekwd

How about piffle as "nonsense", an assertion unsupported by facts."

You're not one of the "little people" are you?


66 posted on 09/03/2006 6:45:20 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: Sender
Management told everyone that being even one minute late would not be tolerated.

We are turning Chinese...

67 posted on 09/03/2006 6:48:13 AM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, thats how you sell clothing.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

'Piffle' is bug-dust in some Northern European language's idom.

Either we are equal or we are not. Go safely, go armed with wits or a gun. I've both.


68 posted on 09/03/2006 6:49:00 AM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: Sender
It is true; we little people are told when to pee and where, and if we miss the pot, we are discarded. All the while the big dogs pee where they will.

It has been that way only for a few thousand years. Probably longer, but the records only go back that far. It is part of The Human Condition.
If I were ever arrested for a crime I would be screwed. I would have the lawyer I could afford, and it would not be an experienced criminal defense attorney with access to private forensic labs, private investigators, a back up team of researchers and a second in the courtroom; unless I was given a dream team at public expense for being a nationally known serial killer.
I don’t recall anyone promising me that life would be fair. I live with the above thought because I decided long ago that some things in life are more valuable than money. If I had made different choices in life I would be wealthy enough not to care.

69 posted on 09/03/2006 6:54:02 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: tomzz

But no room in medical facilities and morgues as their lifestyle pays out. Sorry, this is a conservative news discussion forum and liebertarians are not conservative. Justice is harsh. Consider the 'categorical imperative.' It is in my dictionary, is it in yours?


70 posted on 09/03/2006 6:54:03 AM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: DCPatriot
#2...what's wrong with management setting attendance rules, policy?

How I know is really no one's business. Management can set just about any rule they wish. I don't have a problem with it. It's the lack of adherence to rules by some 30 million illegals & others that is bothering me. Oh, I have a grip. You don't have a clue how much of a grip I have and on what I have a grip.

71 posted on 09/03/2006 6:54:31 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The board, all commercial entities must pander to the lowest common denominator in order to increase their market penetration. So they try to become all things to all people and fail.


72 posted on 09/03/2006 6:56:14 AM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I started saying to anyone who would listen to me 20 years ago that government was out of control. My family finally got tired of hearing all the time and either tuned me out or mocked me. In the nicest sort of way, you understand. But it was mockery just the same. Now they no longer laugh or mock. They agree I was ahead of my time.

There simply is no facet of today's life that is not in some way controlled or affected by some level of government. And it's getting worse by the hour.

I have had the City of Tampa try to put a lien on my property because it was not mowed to their satisfaction. The scheduled a public hearing to take me on because I let plants that are native to Florida grow along the fence row at the back of our lot. They got me one time because I had not brought in my garbage cans after the pickup. The list goes on and on.

When I peruse the budget of any governmental agency I see line items for thousands of dollars that appear to be for purposes that would have disgusted our Founding Fathers.

I hate to be the bearer of sad tidings, friend, but you are in for a rough trip! Incrementalism has become a way of life for government and they expand their grasp every chance they get. Look at how you're treated if you dare say anything against the public school system!
73 posted on 09/03/2006 6:56:26 AM PDT by jwparkerjr
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To: Little Bill
Who is property, are you property or am I?

No we are not property, but we can own property.

If my service is required to for you to to obtain your objective, can I claim a part of it.

Not unless it was part of the deal when you sold your services. You can not have a valid claim if it was not part of the deal.

If my service is essential for you to obtain your objective can I require you to surrender a portion of it to me?

This is where the market place comes into play, you can charge what ever you desire for your services, you could charge a million bucks an hour if you desire. It is up to other people to chooses to trade their property with you. You may risk pricing yourself out of the market.

This is aside from you hiring me from in front of Walmart.

What service are you selling in front of Walmart? I hope it is not a service explaining what ones Property Rights are, and why they are important.

74 posted on 09/03/2006 6:56:45 AM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: Amos the Prophet

Outstanding post and correct. I also wanted to mention Wall Street. That is an entirely special case in regard to this entire argument. The amount of cheating, scamming, etc. that goes on in that arena to the detriment of the "little man" is unbelievable. Very little is done about the huge amount of dishonesty that is taking place. I could for an hour give examples. No time.


75 posted on 09/03/2006 6:57:08 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Mark was here
You may risk pricing yourself out of the market.

Ha ha ha. Photographers who pay kickbacks to school systems in order to get the work price themselves out of the market but get orders anyway because students are told they'll get their pictures made with that photographer or they won't be in the year book or things similar to that. Tell me more about people having choices...

76 posted on 09/03/2006 6:58:59 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

You obviously don't know any democrats.

They have never had the rules apply to them.

Go to a courthouse, the cronic criminals with the public defenders are 100% PROOF that they have no consequences.


The whole democrat party platform is based on no consequences for misconduct.


77 posted on 09/03/2006 6:59:06 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: johniegrad

Does that mean you are not allowed to spend the night at a Holiday Inn Express?


78 posted on 09/03/2006 6:59:50 AM PDT by jwparkerjr
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
From what I've read, I conclude there's plenty of (and growing) social and economic mobility in this country, that little dogs are reasonably well protected from abuse, and that they've always and everywhere complained about how unfair it is that they are little.

But it's all a struggle with constantly changing rules and conditions. Right now globalization does NOT favor little white dogs in this country while it and the IT revolution favor big dogs everywhere.

79 posted on 09/03/2006 7:01:16 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Leisler
Somewhere, somehow you are breaking a law, code, ordinance…

Way back in about 1964 I wrote a high school term paper that required using the local courthouse law library. The library consisted of a thin notebook of local ordinances, and thin book of State law, a few volumes of Federal law and a few volumes of the Code of the Federal Register. The whole deal took up only a couple feet of shelf space.
I recently checked the local public library for a law. City ordinances were contained in 5 thick volumes. State law took up several feet of space and the Federal laws and regulations (only partially complete) took up several shelves. The US Tax Code was not included.
As long as our Representatives are referred to as “Law Makers” the trend will continue.

80 posted on 09/03/2006 7:02:42 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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