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Knives of GIs’ lives: Blades were made in crucible of war
Sierra Vista Herald, Sierra Vista Arizona ^ | Bill Hess

Posted on 09/05/2006 5:34:26 PM PDT by SandRat

SIERRA VISTA — Certain knives tell stories.

But, unfortunately, many of these stories remain mysteries. “Trapper Jon” Carpenter has a number of special knives made by World War II GIs, each with some kind of story behind its making.

He once had a knife that was tailored for or by some soldier.

It was different, Carpenter said.

The handle was personal.

On the butt of the handle, underneath Plexiglas, was the photo of a GI’s family, he said.

“I wanted to know about that family and the person who carried it (the knife),” Carpenter said.

Today, there is an increase in collecting the special personal knives GIs carried into battle or made to while away periods of boredom.

As the owner of Trapper Jon’s Knives, Carpenter said he has a variety of instruments that are collectibles.

The New England transplant and former professional chef and restaurant partner, said he always has been interested in knives.

As a chef, knives are part of the profession, but his interest increased to include becoming a collector and opening a store where all types of blades are sold.

At 62, he continues with what once was a hobby and now a business, after moving from New Hampshire to Arizona a few years ago.

From pen knives to large broad swords his store on Fry Boulevard is full of a variety of blades, and yes that includes kitchen ones as well.

During America’s Civil War soldiers on both sides took large kitchen knives and reshaped them into personal knives, which they carried into combat, he said.

There is something about having a knife, beyond a bayonet, that makes a soldier feel safer when in battle, Carpenter said.

Today, knives made by GIs or made for soldiers by others fall into the category of Theater Made knives, he said.

Historically, military people have always wanted something personal when it came to a blade, the store owner said.

And, those who served during World War II, where men who could work with their hands and understood knives, Carpenter said.

According to historians there was a game boys played called mumblety-peg, in which a jackknife was used in a contest to show off the knife-throwing skills of a person.

During the war, many GIs played the game, according to a number of Googled sites about mumblety-peg, which is thought to go back centuries during the times of sailing ships.

Carpenter said that during WWII, soldiers from all nations made personal knives.

His main interest is in the American-made ones.

GIs then had access to material, like Plexiglas, insulation materials and aluminum, as well as scrap steel, such as large files, he said.

“They had access to good types of tool steel, too,” Carpenter said, adding any piece of strong metal would be used.

One knife he has is made from a large file, the serrated portion visible on the top of the device.

Soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines also had easy access to machine shops, whether on ships, at airfields or in camps, making it easier for them to make their personal blades, Carpenter said.

He looked at one knife that had a brass handle shaped into a line of skulls, probably created through a “lost wax” casting process. This was a special blade.

It was not a commercial blade that had been modified, Carpenter said.

Like many of the “Theater Made Military Knives” he has, he has no idea of the story behind the skull knife.

“Maybe it was made by a paratrooper,” he said, because to him the handle symbolizes somehow death from above.

Then there is a knife he has that has a special engraving on the blade.

It states: “Made by R. Arthur for Pete Belton, Dec. 45.”

By December 1945 the war was over, but Carpenter said what he will never know is if Arthur and Belton were friends and the knife was made as part of the friendship.

Or did Belton ask for the knife to be made.

Was it made in a ship’s machine shop as the two sailed home after the war?

Or, was it made at an airfield or Army camp?

The story of the Arthur and Belton blade, like many of the other collectible Theater Made Knives, will remain a mystery.

Perhaps Churchill’s oft-used quote about Stalin’s Russia is appropriate.

For the stories surrounding the knives also can be seen as “a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.”

And, as the surviving GIs who served in World War II fall to the Grim Reaper, the stories of the special blades go with them into a deep shroud of fog.

Herald/Review senior reporter Bill Hess can be reached at 515-4615 or by e-mail at bill.hess@svherald.com.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
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To: DragonMarine
Sounds like a fabulous blade. The Blood Groove you refer to is a technique called "fullering", and it lightens and balances the blade, not for letting blood, I'm afraid.

Cool beans! Thanks!!! This thing has a wonderful balance. Its balance point is on the blade about 1 inch from the cross piece.

41 posted on 09/05/2006 7:22:03 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: DragonMarine

I will take one tonight and post it tomorrow.


42 posted on 09/05/2006 7:22:28 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: HairOfTheDog

I wonder what Trapper Jon would think of the HH knives?


43 posted on 09/05/2006 7:32:25 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

He might think they'll make nice collector's items one day :~)


44 posted on 09/05/2006 7:33:28 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Head On. Apply directly to the forehead!)
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To: BnBlFlag

I just bought a K bar D2. It is the sharpest blade I have ever had coming from the factory. 12 inch blade.


45 posted on 09/05/2006 7:38:56 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: RadioAstronomer

Can't wait to see it.

The balance is exactly as it should be...


46 posted on 09/05/2006 7:58:09 PM PDT by DragonMarine (Capitalism works, but it has to be paid for. (From the halls of Montezuma...)
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To: RadioAstronomer
I carry a Gerber MK-II

Hank Frost salutes you're choice. I have one too.

47 posted on 09/05/2006 8:02:24 PM PDT by metalurgist (Believe in my God or I will kill you! The cry of all religious extremists.)
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To: stevio

The WWI Trench Knife is pretty good for in close.


48 posted on 09/05/2006 9:23:07 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

Cold Steel, SOG are both wonderful. Randalls, of course, are wonderful - my favorite. Personally, I'd put in a word here for Marble's knives; top quality blades with very handsome presentations at a reasonable price. Check 'em out if you get a chance.


49 posted on 09/06/2006 2:32:08 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: RadioAstronomer

Hi Mike!


50 posted on 09/06/2006 10:44:00 AM PDT by Anne of DC (Rest in peace Steve)
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To: Jack Hammer; All
This is a true story about a buck fixed blade hunting knife used to stab a bear to death by freeper, kanawa, this summer. It makes for a good read about how useful a knife can be.

"Man (Freeper kanawa) stabs bear to death:" http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1670661/posts?q=1&&page=1

51 posted on 09/06/2006 10:12:35 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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