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1 posted on 09/07/2006 10:49:08 AM PDT by presidio9
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Is 'Jihad' central to Islam? Ralph?


2 posted on 09/07/2006 10:51:44 AM PDT by Tallguy (The problem with this war is the name... You don't wage war against a tactic.)
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Islam has had the same relationship with the rest of the world for 1300 years. And we are going to turn them into Episcopalians this decade?


3 posted on 09/07/2006 10:51:50 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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Shouldn't this have a barf alert?

I hate it when people fail to distinguish between discrimination based on what a person is, and discrimination based on what a person does or believes. Hating a person because they're Arab is racism. Hating a person because they want to slay the infidels is wise.


4 posted on 09/07/2006 10:53:21 AM PDT by oldleft
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I guess I'm part of the rotten core. However, I take offense at this:

...and, invariably, the haters fantasizing about a merciless Crusade never bothered to serve in our military

Do 12 years active and 19 years of reserves count? Or do I have to actually be deployed to be considered as 'bothering'?
5 posted on 09/07/2006 10:53:49 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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37% of British Muslims believe it is acceptable to murder their Jewish neighbors.

I agree that Islam is not 100% evil, but a huge minority is clearly evil. Genocide is their program, and the other 63% are not (often) calling them out.


6 posted on 09/07/2006 10:54:04 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Islamofascists' tactics are all War Crimes according to the Geneva Convention.)
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islam is what islam is. It has no one to blame but itself for the image it has.
8 posted on 09/07/2006 10:54:47 AM PDT by CzarNicky (Gentlemen, Dethklok has summoned a troll.)
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I guess Ralph Peters should just take the advice of the President of Iran and CONVERT. He obviously has no interest in standing up for himself.


9 posted on 09/07/2006 10:54:52 AM PDT by BubbaBobTX (I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as fast as I could.)
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Yep. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

"I know that all teachers and my calculator tell me that 2 + 2 = 4, but that doesn't mean I have to accept it!"


10 posted on 09/07/2006 10:55:04 AM PDT by Egon (We are number one! All others are number two... or lower.)
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"By insisting that Islam can never reform, that the violent conquest and subjugation of unbelievers is the faith's primary agenda - and, when you read between the lines, that all Muslims are evil and subhuman. "

So someone is reading my posts.


11 posted on 09/07/2006 10:58:31 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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Looks like Ralphie got a talking-to from his muslim owners. Ralph, be sure to face Mecca when yielding your buttocks to your masters. And while you're down there, read the Koran.

BTW, your moral-equivalence defense of muslims is disgusting. This "religion" has not been hijacked by radicals--the warrior code is being followed to the letter by muzzie fundamentalists.

Expand your horizons, half-wit, and do your own research.


12 posted on 09/07/2006 10:58:35 AM PDT by Know Thine Enemy (Islam is a warrior code masquerading as a religion.)
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"But those who warn of Muslims in general are heirs of the creeps who once told us Jews can never be real Americans and JFK will serve the Vatican."

There is a world of difference in the *reasonableness* of the claim that Muslims will blow you up and the two strawman claims listed in his article.

This is another one that ought to have his head bopped for issuing blind stupidity and trying to pass it off and "enlightenment." As my grandmamma would've said, "He better hope it down't rain --- his nose is so stuck up in the air he'll drown!" On second thought, maybe I do hope it rains!!


13 posted on 09/07/2006 10:59:01 AM PDT by delphirogatio
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Make it 1937 and substitute "National Socialism" and Germans for Islam and Muslims. I served Ralph. Keep your white flag out of my face, and try reading history.

Trotting out the chickenhawk argument in the USA is just stupid and desperate.
17 posted on 09/07/2006 11:01:56 AM PDT by alarm rider (Those that vote for RINOS knowingly, have already admitted defeat.)
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I have no problems with Arabs. Arabs are a race, and hating Arabs would make me a racist. Racism sucks.

I don't even have a problem with Muslims. I know plenty of cool Muslims, including a very nice Muslim girl who is the daughter of Iraqi immigrants, who threw a party upon the beginning of the invasion of Iraq. Not a big Saddam fan, needless to say.

Islam itself, though... yeah, problem there.

18 posted on 09/07/2006 11:02:22 AM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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"Ultimately, our military actions can only buy time"...UNTIL... "The long overdue liberal reformation within the Islamic world can only be carried out by Muslims themselves."

In what century will this reformation occur and what do we do about it while we're waiting?

Islam has not been hijacked by extremists. Islam is extreme.

21 posted on 09/07/2006 11:05:03 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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The "good" muzzies protect the bad ones simply because they're all muzzies. Isn't that "racist" also? Sorry, but I'm not buying it. If they protect terrorists in their midst - and you can find them all together at your local mosque - I don't really care to try to separate them all individually. That's not my concern. My concern is to be and remain safe.


25 posted on 09/07/2006 11:09:35 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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This surprises me because I usually like Peters' columns. He's a retired MI Officer and has generally supported President Bush and our WOT.

He may have confused Muslims who are waging jihad against us and those who are not. Those who are not are just waiting for the right moment to begin.

27 posted on 09/07/2006 11:09:41 AM PDT by capydick (Not to know is bad; not to wish to know is worse.)
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I have the utmost respect for Ralph Peters, but I really don't need him to tell me that not all Muslims are homicidal maniacs any more than I need President Bush to tell me this.

Everyone with a brain already understands this perfectly obvious truth. It's a rather pointless way of trying to avoid a much-needed debate on what Islam is and what can be done to change it.

30 posted on 09/07/2006 11:12:04 AM PDT by jpl (Victorious warriors win first, then go to war; defeated warriors go to war first, then seek to win.)
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OK. Lets put the shoe on the other foot....Was it "racist" and "bigoted" to to hijack 4 planes and kill 3000 people in the name of Islam and Allah?


32 posted on 09/07/2006 11:14:38 AM PDT by Dallas59 (ISLAMOFASCISM!!!!)
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Bigotry is bigotry - even when disguised as patriotism.

And facism is facism - even when disguised as a religion.

33 posted on 09/07/2006 11:19:45 AM PDT by thoughtomator (There is no "Islamofascism" - there is only Islam)
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Genocide is genocide. Murder is murder.


35 posted on 09/07/2006 11:47:07 AM PDT by tkathy (Einstein: Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.)
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