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Michael Scheuer issues the challenge (Path to 9/11)
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Posted on 09/09/2006 2:36:09 PM PDT by hipaatwo

Via the ABC News blog “Political Punch” comes this message from Michael Scheuer on The Path to 9/11 controversy.

“This morning we received an email from Michael Scheuer, former chief of the Osama bin Laden Unit at the CIA’s Counterterrorist Center (and the previously “Anonymous” author of “Imperial Hubris”) who is clearly no fan of either the Bush nor the Clinton Administrations — nor the 9/11 Commission. He writes the following:

“This whole business over ABC’s movie is amazing. Now Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. and a pack of political whores who pass themselves off as ‘historians’ have come out four-square for pre-publication censorship.

“As I have told you, the core of the movie is irrefutably true: the Clinton administration had 10 chances to capture of kill bin Laden. Had the 9/11 Commission not whitewashed events, personal culpability would have been assigned and we as a nation could have moved on to fight al-Qaeda. The Commission turned out to be hack-dominated, however, and ignored the documents that were presented to them, as well as the testimony it received under oath. Instead of telling the American people that the intelligence regarding bin Laden, al-Qaeda and their intentions was abundant, precise, and not acted on, the Commissioners blamed ‘the structure of the intelligence community’ for the failure and then proceeded to wreck the community with a horrendous reform package.

“The solution is really quite simple, I think. Declassify the documents and testimony of the men and women who risked their lives to collect the intelligence that Clinton and his lieutenants failed to act on. Present this information to the American people — and perhaps put some of those officers on TV to answer questions — and then let the chips fall where they may. If the critics of the ABC movie are so confident they are right, they would surely welcome this process.”

Hurrah! Bring it on Bubba! You’ve got the time? We’ve got the facts. Let’s get it all out!


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; censorship; clinton; clintonfailures; clintonlegacy; clintonscandals; fifthanniversary; michaelscheuer; pathto911; scheuer; sept11
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1 posted on 09/09/2006 2:36:09 PM PDT by hipaatwo
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To: Mo1; Peach; Howlin; Txsleuth; SE Mom

PING A LING!!


2 posted on 09/09/2006 2:37:54 PM PDT by hipaatwo (Vote for your life. Every vote for a Democrat is a vote against victory.)
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To: hipaatwo

Bump!


3 posted on 09/09/2006 2:39:33 PM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: hipaatwo
Bubba screwed himself BIG Time with this protest
4 posted on 09/09/2006 2:39:53 PM PDT by Mo1 (Think about it .. A Speaker Nancy Pelosi could be 2 seats away from being President)
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To: hipaatwo
Oh, oh ... over his dead body?

That was one thing that was very strange about the Clinton years ... criticizers wound up dead.
5 posted on 09/09/2006 2:40:11 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Mo1

Funny how we don't see Scheuer on t.v. these days isn't it.


6 posted on 09/09/2006 2:41:50 PM PDT by hipaatwo (Vote for your life. Every vote for a Democrat is a vote against victory.)
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To: nmh

Michael Schuer will now be persona non grata on all alphabets; he was only useful to them when he bashed Bush. If he speaks the truth on Clinton it will never be heard.


7 posted on 09/09/2006 2:42:16 PM PDT by Laverne
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To: hipaatwo

BACK AT YA, BUBBA!


8 posted on 09/09/2006 2:42:47 PM PDT by arichtaxpayer (We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail.)
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To: Laverne

Yea .. Bubba sure is doing a great job ticking off their buddies

Not a very smart move in the long run


9 posted on 09/09/2006 2:44:43 PM PDT by Mo1 (Think about it .. A Speaker Nancy Pelosi could be 2 seats away from being President)
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To: hipaatwo

Now that would be the perfect solution. I think the 5th year of marking 9-11 would be the perfect time to declassify those documents and it might just shut everyone up long enough for us to deliver some major blows on this WOT.


10 posted on 09/09/2006 2:45:07 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Richard Armitage is a sniveling COWARD!)
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To: hipaatwo
“As I have told you, the core of the movie is irrefutably true: the Clinton administration had 10 chances to capture of kill bin Laden.

I'll bet this information could have been found in the documents that Sandy Burglar "sloppily" removed from the National Archives by sticking them in his pants and socks.

11 posted on 09/09/2006 2:45:18 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Socialism/Communism is not "progressive." It dates back to the Neanderthals.)
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To: hipaatwo

I suppose Scheur will be a hero to us for knocking Clinton but he is an Arabist of the most disgusting stripe. He blames Israel for most of what goes wrong in the Mid East. This is like gushing over Buchanan when he knocks Clinton.


12 posted on 09/09/2006 2:46:18 PM PDT by Honestfreedom
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To: Honestfreedom

I'm not gushing over him, but if he's telling the truth I don't care if he prays to idols at this point. I want the truth to come out, period.


13 posted on 09/09/2006 2:49:07 PM PDT by hipaatwo (Vote for your life. Every vote for a Democrat is a vote against victory.)
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To: All
Clinton and Hillary have been exposed so many times on YouTube , it will be difficult for them to avoid facing the music especially when everybody sends their family and friends Freerepublic and Clinton Exposed YouTube videos.

I especially like the latest RUSH LIMBAUGH YouTube post.

14 posted on 09/09/2006 2:49:34 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Mo1

unless the movie airs UNEDITED, I don't see your point.

the debate over this film, will be over by the middle of next week.


15 posted on 09/09/2006 2:49:52 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: hipaatwo

bttt


16 posted on 09/09/2006 2:52:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: hipaatwo
Now Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. and a pack of political whores who pass
themselves off as ‘historians’ have come out four-square for
pre-publication censorship.


So Michael, tell us how you really feel about those "historians".

LOL! I don't go with everything the guy has said, but he may be on-point this time.
17 posted on 09/09/2006 2:52:45 PM PDT by VOA
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To: hipaatwo
a pack of political whores who pass themselves off as ‘historians’

Declassify the documents and testimony of the men and women who risked their lives to collect the intelligence that Clinton and his lieutenants failed to act on. Present this information to the American people

18 posted on 09/09/2006 2:53:11 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: hipaatwo

I just visited abc.com

The promo for The Path to 9/11 is still running. The program is still included in the Sunday and Monday schedules.


19 posted on 09/09/2006 2:54:33 PM PDT by freedom4me ("Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom."--Ben Franklin)
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mark


20 posted on 09/09/2006 2:56:41 PM PDT by hipaatwo (Vote for your life. Every vote for a Democrat is a vote against victory.)
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To: oceanview
the debate over this film, will be over by the middle of next week

But the way people were treated will linger long after next week

21 posted on 09/09/2006 2:57:41 PM PDT by Mo1 (Think about it .. A Speaker Nancy Pelosi could be 2 seats away from being President)
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To: hipaatwo

is a 22-year CIA veteran. He served as the Chief of Alec Station, the Osama bin Laden Unit at the Counterterrorist Center from 1996 to 1999. He then worked again as Special Advisor to the Chief of the bin Laden unit from September 2001 to November 2004. He was also in charge of drafting the original rendition process (Swiss senator Dick Marty's report on US rendition facilities in Europe) under Clinton.[citation needed] He resigned from the CIA in 2004. He is currently a News Analyst for CBS News as well as a Terrorism Analyst for the Jamestown Foundation's online publication Global Terrorism Analysis.[1]


In the 9/11 Commission Report, Scheuer is featured in Chapter 4, where his name is given only as "Mike". He is portrayed as occasionally frustrated with his superiors' failure to aggressively target bin Laden.


I resigned from an Agency I love in order to publicly damn the feckless 9/11 Commission, which failed to find any personal failure or negiligence among Intelligence Community leaders even though dozens of serving officers provided the commisioners with clear documentary evidence of that failure." [4]



"[T]he crux of my argument is simply that America is in a war with militant Islamists that it cannot avoid; one that it cannot talk or appease its way out of; one in which our irreconcilable Islamist foes will have to be killed, an act which unavoidably will lead to innocent deaths; and one that is motivated in large measure by the impact of U.S. foreign policies in the Islamic world, one of which is unqualified U.S. support for Israel." [5] The book also documents a number of areas in which Scheuer believed Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein cooperated. [6]




"In Sudan, Bin Laden decided to acquire and, when possible, use chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear (CBRN) weapons against Islam's enemies. Bin Laden's first moves in this direction were made in cooperation with NIF [Sudan's National Islamic Front], Iraq's intelligence service and Iraqi CBRN scientists and technicians. He made contact with Baghdad with its intelligence officers in Sudan and by a [Hassan] Turabi-brokered June-1994 visit by Iraq's then-intelligence chief Faruq al-Hijazi; according to Milan's Corriere della Sera, Saddam, in 1994, made Hijazi responsible for "nurturing Iraq's ties to [Islamic] fundamentalist warriors. Turabi had plans to formulate a "common strategy" with bin Laden and Iraq for subverting pro-U.S. Arab regimes, but the meeting was a get-acquainted session where Hijazi and bin Laden developed a good rapport that would "flourish" in the late 1990s." Through Our Enemies Eyes (p. 124)


22 posted on 09/09/2006 2:59:22 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: hipaatwo

"Funny how we don't see Scheuer on t.v. these days isn't it"

I know. He agrees with the libs much of the time too.


23 posted on 09/09/2006 3:00:16 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: hipaatwo
Think the ball is in Clinton's court...lets see if he can hit it back. It is possible that Clinton has opened a can of worms and can not put the lid back on. If he would have kept his mouth shut, no controversy equals small audience.
24 posted on 09/09/2006 3:01:01 PM PDT by engrpat
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To: hipaatwo

I'm remembering the Clinton people that sat on the 9-11 Commission wagging their fingers, especially Gorelick.


25 posted on 09/09/2006 3:01:50 PM PDT by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: hipaatwo

26 posted on 09/09/2006 3:02:55 PM PDT by skeptoid (SPEAK ENGLISH or GO BACK)
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To: hipaatwo

bttt


27 posted on 09/09/2006 3:06:21 PM PDT by true_blue_texican
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To: hipaatwo; Mo1; Peach; Howlin; Txsleuth; SE Mom

I just got back from the video store and saw on the shelf a just released movie called "The 9/11 Commission Report." It is a dramatization. They were out of them so I couldn't rent it to view. I looked up the info about the movie..check this out > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0840272/

Does anyone know anything about this movie? Jamie Goreleck is a character is this movie.


28 posted on 09/09/2006 3:11:16 PM PDT by debg
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To: hipaatwo

Good for him. His second letter regarding this movie and it should be sent to ABC, the producer, and all conservative news organizations.


29 posted on 09/09/2006 3:11:25 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: skeptoid
Hmmmmmm...........Bill blew while the World Trade Center Burned?? Shouldn't that be Monica blew.............?????
30 posted on 09/09/2006 3:12:00 PM PDT by daylate-dollarshort
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To: true_blue_texican
WOW! Them fighting words! Problem is the mediaWHORES will always and forever cover bubba's butt! SO, move along nothing to see here! The true will eventually come out when this, meaning US, generation dies out and the docs will be unclassified! TOO bad we won't see the hanging of Butthead and his witch! :(
31 posted on 09/09/2006 3:12:35 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: hipaatwo
The Path To 9/11 - Clinton Goes After ABC Harder Than He Pursued Bin-Laden
32 posted on 09/09/2006 3:12:56 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: RoseofTexas

oops, meant to say TRUTH for true!


33 posted on 09/09/2006 3:13:22 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Laverne
Michael Schuer will now be persona non grata on all alphabets; he was only useful to them when he bashed Bush. If he speaks the truth on Clinton it will never be heard.

Does it not strike you as odd that not a single member of the MSM has come out in support of ABC? And, by extension, the First Amendment.

Either they a.) would all throw the First Amendment overboard simply to further the left's political agenda, or b.) are all scared $hitless of what the Democrats will do if they ever regain power.

Either conclusion is very instructive, I should think.

And not a little frightening...

34 posted on 09/09/2006 3:19:34 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Mo1
Yea .. Bubba sure is doing a great job ticking off their buddies

Ticking them off?

Or scaring them $hitless?

35 posted on 09/09/2006 3:20:40 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: debg

That's weird. It's still in production according to what I read and yet if it's available for rental, then there is some movie out there.


36 posted on 09/09/2006 3:20:43 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: hipaatwo

Scheuer's characterization of Arthur Schlesinger Jr. as a political whore is absolutely correct.


37 posted on 09/09/2006 3:28:28 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Honestfreedom
I suppose Scheur will be a hero to us for knocking Clinton but he is an Arabist of the most disgusting stripe.

Scheuer should be regarded as a hero for challenging the lies that powerful figures such Clinton, Albright and Berger are spreading about Path To 911. Men such as Scheuer and LTC Buzz Patterson should be commended for stepping forward and defending the truth that the Path To 911 presents.

As for Scheuer and his views of Israel, well, he has been critical of Israel, that's true, but that hardly makes him an "Arabist". He has also been very critical of some of our so-called Arab allies. Here is but one example of that:

He [SCHEUER] said to NPR that Mearsheimer and Walt are basically right. Israel, according to Scheuer, has engaged in one of the most successful campaigns to influence public opinion in the United States ever conducted by a foreign government. Scheuer said to NPR that "They [Mearsheimer and Walt] should be credited for the courage they have had to actually present a paper on the subject. I hope they move on and do the Saudi lobby, which is probably more dangerous to the United States than the Israeli lobby.

38 posted on 09/09/2006 3:30:25 PM PDT by Norman Arbuthnot
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To: hipaatwo

Rapist42's ballsack... just got kicked up into his throat!


39 posted on 09/09/2006 3:31:01 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: Peach

It's out there as of 9/5. There were 6 copies in the store but they were all signed out. (I suppose that folks are mistaking it for the Path to 911 movie.)



40 posted on 09/09/2006 3:34:58 PM PDT by debg
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To: debg

My My My .. what is that??


41 posted on 09/09/2006 3:36:44 PM PDT by Mo1 (Think about it .. A Speaker Nancy Pelosi could be 2 seats away from being President)
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To: MaineVoter2002
Thank you for posting those links. I just watched the Rush piece, and thought it was excellent. Rush summed it all up beautifully.
42 posted on 09/09/2006 3:38:31 PM PDT by dbehsman (Libertarians make poor Humanitarians.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

According to Richard Miniter... you're pretty much dead-on. Among the documents Burger stole was a list of 4 proposals dealing with killing/capturing OBL. There was a handwritten 'NO' after each one... in Rapist42's own handwriting.


43 posted on 09/09/2006 3:39:33 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: sully777

"I'm remembering the Clinton people that sat on the 9-11 Commission wagging their fingers, especially Gorelick."

Don't forget the other Clinton lawyer on the Committee, Ben-Veniste, who in fact was the first person to criticize this movie. It makes you wonder what, exactly, his function was on the Committee.



44 posted on 09/09/2006 3:42:01 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Mo1

I think this is one of those keep looking posts.


45 posted on 09/09/2006 3:47:50 PM PDT by debg
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To: debg

I'll keep an eye out for that.


46 posted on 09/09/2006 3:50:33 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: hipaatwo; Liz; Howlin; Jim Robinson
Top Historians Demand ABC Yank 9/11 Film
By Greg Sargent | bio

We've just received a copy of a scathing letter that Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., Princeton's Sean Wilentz, Georgetown's Michael Kazin and a few other historians and professors have written to ABC chief Robert Iger. It demands that ABC yank the broadcast, labeling the network's explanations "disingenuous" and "dangerous": "A responsible broadcast network should have nothing to do with the falsification of history, except to expose it. We strongly urge you to halt the show’s broadcast and prevent misinforming Americans about their history." The full text of the letter after the jump.

Here's the full text of the letter:

Dear Robert Iger:

We write as professional historians, who are deeply concerned by the continuing reports about ABC’s scheduled broadcast of “The Path to 9/11.” These reports document that this drama contains numerous flagrant falsehoods about critical events in recent American history. The key participants and eyewitnesses to these events state that the script distorts and even fabricates evidence into order to mislead viewers about the responsibility of numerous American officials for allegedly ignoring the terrorist threat before 2000.

The claim by the show’s producers, broadcaster, and defenders, that these falsehoods are permissible because the show is merely a dramatization, is disingenuous and dangerous given their assertions that the show is also based on authoritative historical evidence. Whatever ABC’s motivations might be, broadcasting these falsehoods, connected to the most traumatic historical event of our times, would be a gross disservice to the public. A responsible broadcast network should have nothing to do with the falsification of history, except to expose it. We strongly urge you to halt the show’s broadcast and prevent misinforming Americans about their history.

Sincerely,

Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.
Sean Wilentz, Princeton University
Michael Kazin, Georgetown University
Lizbeth Cohen, Harvard University,
Nicholas Salvatore, Cornell University;
Ted Widmer, Washington College;
Rick Perlstein, Independent Scholar;
David Blight, Yale University;
Eric Alterman, City University of New York.

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2006/sep/08/schlesinger_ wilentz_and_other_historians_to_abcs_iger_yank_dangerous_film

47 posted on 09/09/2006 3:57:13 PM PDT by Libloather (Just declare the UN as an enemy combatant and kick their ass out of this country!)
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To: Libloather

Gee. A bunch of blow-away leftists object to the film. How quaint.


48 posted on 09/09/2006 4:03:40 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Libloather

None of these historians have researched, or know anything more than the average person, about the events leading up to 9/11. So how can they accuse ABC of fabrication? Unless they're intentionally echoing the Democrats' line regarding this film. Which I suspect is what they're doing.


49 posted on 09/09/2006 4:05:14 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: okie01

I sent an email to Charlie Gibson last night, after his story abuot how the new SSCI was a blow to Bush, yada yada yada. Not once did Gibson mention the trheatening letter ABC received from the democrat leadership. Given the letter is in the public domain, and ABC doesn't even mention on their evening news, or post it on the web site, it is clear they are willing to give up their freedom on speech rights in order to cow-tow to hilly and billy. Pretty scarey. Furthermore, I have not heard anyone really talk about that letter..not even on FNC. Perhaps they will next week, but I doubt it.


50 posted on 09/09/2006 4:07:09 PM PDT by Laverne
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