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DID CLINTON CAUSE 9/11? ASK SANDY BERGER
yahoo news ^ | 9122006 | Maggie Gallagher

Posted on 09/12/2006 6:08:37 PM PDT by BlueJ7

Over the years, historians and dramatists will produce many, many versions of "The Path to 9/11." If Bill Clinton wishes in the future to complain about historical inaccuracies, I suggest he first answer one question:

What handwritten notes, and by whom, were on the three copies of classified documents (out of five) that Sandy Berger chose to steal and cut up with scissors in 2003, smack in the middle of the 9/11 commission's investigation?

When we know the answer to that question, Bill, then and only then will you be entitled to complain about historical inaccuracies in the record.

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1 posted on 09/12/2006 6:08:38 PM PDT by BlueJ7
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To: BlueJ7

Clinton aide says
9/11 film 'correct'
Producer consulted with military attaché
who saw aborted attacks on bin Laden
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51898


2 posted on 09/12/2006 6:10:09 PM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: BlueJ7

Are these the documents from the national archives that ended up in Sandy Burglar's shorts and socks due to an "honest mistake?"


3 posted on 09/12/2006 6:10:21 PM PDT by Disturbin (Welcome to society -- morons with keys)
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To: BlueJ7

Bill Clinton will go down in history as the worst most asleep at the wheel President this country has had to date. Let's hope and pray no one else is ever as lackdaisical as he was.


4 posted on 09/12/2006 6:11:31 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: BlueJ7

Sandy Pants Burglar. A one-man Ministry of Truth.


5 posted on 09/12/2006 6:12:24 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: BlueJ7

BINGO Maggie!


6 posted on 09/12/2006 6:13:11 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (JOHN BOLTON FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: yldstrk

Clinton.......caretaker President who only took care of himself.


7 posted on 09/12/2006 6:13:23 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: BlueJ7
There's also the photo's he sent via his cell phone to someone unknown that's no-ones bothered to look into. If they weren't incriminating in some way why did he make everyone else there leave the room?
8 posted on 09/12/2006 6:15:00 PM PDT by AmeriBrit ( Squashing Clinton's Lies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuH1xwLUnbg)
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To: Dan Evans

Gee, I wonder what they would do to me if I "accidently" put classified material in my socks.


9 posted on 09/12/2006 6:15:56 PM PDT by xxyyxx
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To: Disturbin

Revisionist History
"Path to 9/11" Prompts the Question: Who's Guilty? Disney/ABC or the Clinton Administration Crowd ?

By John E. Carey
September 10, 2006

Let’s just review for a moment the affair of one Samuel “Sandy” Berger and the National Archives.

On Thursday, July 22, 2004, Washington Post staff writers John F. Harris and Susan Schmidt, wrote “Last Oct. 2, former Clinton national security adviser Samuel R. ‘Sandy’ Berger stayed huddled over papers at the National Archives until 8 p.m. What he did not know as he labored through that long Thursday was that the same Archives employees who were solicitously retrieving documents for him were also watching their important visitor with a suspicious eye.”

The employees of the National Archives suspected that Sandy Berger was stealing classified government archives about terrorists from his tenure as President Clinton’s National Security Advisor.

They were right.

John F. Harris and Susan Schmidt wrote, “The documents that Berger has acknowledged taking -- some of which remain missing -- are different drafts of a January 2000 ‘after-action review’ of how the government responded to terrorism plots at the turn of the millennium. The document was written by White House anti-terrorism coordinator Richard A. Clarke, at Berger's direction when he was in government.”

Harris and Schmidt also reported that, “Sources have told The Washington Post, and other news organizations, that Berger was witnessed stuffing papers into his clothing.”

Transporting classified government documents without proper authorization is a serious offense. Stealing historical records from the national Archives is equally heinous.

But the real crime that Sandy Berger, and other Clinton Administration personnel, may be guilty of is this: “revisionist history.”

After September 11, 2001, everyone in Washington DC asked the same questions: How could this happen and why weren’t we forewarned?

In fact, “we” were forewarned. There were many events that should have set off alarm bells during President Clinton’s Administration.

A few of the events among these warning signs include: the first World trade center bombing (February 1993), the discovery of the Lincoln and Holland tunnel plots (Spring 1993), the car bombing of the U.S. military headquarters of the United States in Saudi Arabia (November 1995), the truck bombing of the U.S. military housing facility Khobar Towers (June 1996), the truck bombings at U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania (August 1998), and the bombing of USS Cole (October 2000).

Less than one year later, the World Trade Center and the pentagon were hit on September 11, 2001.

This brings us to the loud and vocal protestations from Clinton Administration loyalists to the Disney/ABC production which starts to air tonight, “Path to 9/11.”

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, former National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Clinton Foundation head Bruce Lindsey and Clinton adviser Douglas Band all wrote in the past week to Robert Iger, CEO of ABC's parent The Walt Disney Co., to express concern over “The Path to 9/11.”

What do they have to hide?

Add to that, highly partisan Rep. Louise Slaughter of New York reportedly composed a tough letter to Robert A. Iger, CEO of Walt Disney, ABC's parent company. The letter cites two scenes from the program casting doubt on the Clinton administration's legacy in fighting terrorism.

Slaughter added as co-signers of the letter three senior Democrats who would join her as committee chairmen if Democrats won control of the House. They are Rep. John Dingell of Michigan, senior member of the House; Rep. Jane Harman of California, a top party spokesman on national security; and Rep. John Conyers of Michigan, a left-wing leader.

What do they have to hide? Or is this just a self-serving case of piling on for personal gain?

And what respect do they have for freedom of speech?

When Oliver Stone made his movie “J.F.K.” depicting the president’s assassination as the product of a government conspiracy, do you recall this level of protest?

So we take caution and pause when we hear these vociferous protestations from the Clinton Camp.

We don’t much like revisionist history. And we wonder what the members of the Clinton Administration want to shroud from public view.


10 posted on 09/12/2006 6:16:11 PM PDT by John Carey
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To: yldstrk

He was a fluke. He got elected only because Perot ran and won with 42% of the vote.

I think he only got 47% the second time.

If he was military he would have been court martialed for incompetence. If he was in private industry he would have been canned.

Only in government can one so incomptent keep their job.

John


11 posted on 09/12/2006 6:17:05 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: yldstrk

Bill "I loathe the military" Clinton lackdaisical? Nah.

Not that self-serving, low-life elitist bastard.


12 posted on 09/12/2006 6:18:05 PM PDT by TeddyCon
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To: John Carey

The horrors of 911 are what this nation gets when they elect, twice, a degenerate liar to be President ... and SZinkEmperor is merely a typical democrat politician, the Seante and House are full of the same from that party and a few Republicans of like failing. Can you imagine the horrors that will follow four years of democrat rule in House and Seante, with two years of democrat soiling the WHite House with a war on terrorism going on? I truly shudder to contemplate the feckless appeasements under such rule, not to mention the democrat entitlements which will go into effect to guarantee their re-election until the nation falls into utter mayhem and chaos with the Islamofascist's strikes.


13 posted on 09/12/2006 6:30:51 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: BlueJ7

One more time:

Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew.


14 posted on 09/12/2006 6:31:44 PM PDT by shankbear
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To: Disturbin

C'mon, everyone knows ol' Sandy was just sloppy!


15 posted on 09/12/2006 6:34:27 PM PDT by eyespysomething (http://crumbsandfun.blogspot.com/2006/09/ana-centeno-tribute.html)
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To: xxyyxx
Gee, I wonder what they would do to me if I "accidently" put classified material in my socks.

That depends entirely on your party affiliation.

16 posted on 09/12/2006 6:34:57 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: BlueJ7

Okay, leave everything else aside for a moment. Sandy "the Burglar" Berger runs an international consulting firm, and shreds documents with scissors? He didn't have access to a DOD-grade shredder after hours? Couldn't stick the documents between papers he'd be shredding for his consulting business and shred them during business hours? SCISSORS???!


17 posted on 09/12/2006 6:35:30 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: BlueJ7

The real Clinton legacy exposed...


18 posted on 09/12/2006 6:37:01 PM PDT by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: BlueJ7

For the life of me, I don't understand why the Justice Department whitewashed Berger's crime. Nor why the White House didn't scream bloody murder about Gorelick and Ben Veniste being on the 9-11 committee. They should have thrown a hairy fit. But no. Mustn't fight back or anything.


19 posted on 09/12/2006 6:37:23 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: xxyyxx

Gee, I wonder what they would do to me if I "accidently" put classified material in my socks.

Leavenworth...


20 posted on 09/12/2006 6:41:00 PM PDT by hdstmf
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To: yldstrk

President Carter is close, but he had Rosalind Carter took control. President Carter was a "closet" president!


21 posted on 09/12/2006 6:50:50 PM PDT by olinr
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To: yldstrk
The "used-car salesman-esque" ex-President was far more than lackadaisical, he was criminally negligent. His "bought and paid for" flunky, the Burglar, is no better. Not only did he participate in one of the most crime ridden administrations in our history, but he tried to cover it up by stealing the people's documents. As far as I've been able to find out, this is the first time in our history ANY criminal has stolen documents from the National Archives. These people are as much scum as the terrorists--and will probably find themselves on the same level of hell.
22 posted on 09/12/2006 6:51:06 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: Jeff Chandler
These are the things I fault the Bush administration for.
Also the illegals in our country.

We are now finding our there is "talk" that there has been
been evidence that there are illegals from Eastern countries sneaking into the US.

If so, what in the world did they expect?
23 posted on 09/12/2006 6:57:18 PM PDT by frannie (Be not afraid of tomorrow - God is already there!)
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To: BlueJ7
Bill Clinton, for all his obvious flaws, is a normal, patriotic American who, if he had recognized the danger and known how to prevent it, would certainly have done so.

Patriotic? Maggie, how could Clinton or anyone else recognize the danger when he deliberately prevented the CIA and the FBI from communicating and connecting the dots?

He blinded the nation to what was coming.
24 posted on 09/12/2006 6:58:59 PM PDT by ARE SOLE
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To: John Carey
"Slaughter added as co-signers of the letter three senior Democrats who would join her as committee chairmen if Democrats won control of the House. They are Rep. John Dingell of Michigan, senior member of the House; Rep. Jane Harman of California, a top party spokesman on national security; and Rep. John Conyers of Michigan, a left-wing leader."

OK, why hasn't the Justice Department charged these under the RICO Act. They made serious threats to ABC/Disney! The fools in this administration are as culpable as the criminals to allow these actions to stand.
25 posted on 09/12/2006 6:59:55 PM PDT by olinr
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To: Diggity

"If he was military he would have been court martialed for incompetence."



Thanksfully, he never got that far, which completely exposes the biased hypocrisy from the left...and especially the media. These people spent 5+ years in Texas, chasing down Bush's TANG service. Instead of coming up with anything substantive, we got a doctored memo supposedly from a dead man.

This is completely different to how the media treated the draft-dodger, who not only refused to serve, he intentionally lied on his ROTC application and misrepresented his intentions. Contrary to the fake TANG memo, everyone in the media had access to Col. Holmes' affadavit (and the Col himself, who was still alive) which detailed Clinton's illegal deceptions to avoid the draft. How anyone can trust anything this man has to say with such a history of deception is beyond me.


26 posted on 09/12/2006 7:00:24 PM PDT by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *sses.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I forgot something.

I am going to make this point on every reply I make.

Remember on 9/11 the President had only been in office 7 MONTHS and 19 DAYS! [As the dims would say if it were Clinton] not 9 months not even 8 months as so many on TV, on the webb sites and even in the news.

Also he was 56 days behind time in getting his administration started. How much can any one do in so a short time?
27 posted on 09/12/2006 7:04:21 PM PDT by frannie (Be not afraid of tomorrow - God is already there!)
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To: singfreedom

Have you ever stopped to consider that Burgler may have planted documents also, not just removed documents. The democrat administration of our government has no boundaries of truth or moral character, so anything, literally, is possible with those people. And Burgler isn't the only clintooon goon who has had open access to the archives. As clintoon's 'library' is stocked, others have been admitted for research among the archives. Just imagine what those lying, criminals have accomplished in the way of planted docs and removals.


28 posted on 09/12/2006 7:04:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: frannie
These are the things I fault the Bush administration for.

Since Tony Snow got there, they seem to understand that they are involved in politics, and politics is like war, except you don't kill anybody (the Clintons never got that memo.) I hope they keep up the good fight. If nobody gets in trouble for leaking the NSA intel, then we'll know they aren't serious about doing the right thing vis-a-vis the Democrats.

29 posted on 09/12/2006 7:06:34 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: frannie
How much can any one do in so a short time?

The idea that President Bush is responsible for 9-11 is ludicrous.

30 posted on 09/12/2006 7:09:24 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: BlueJ7

Stealing classified government documents is a federal offence but only if you are NOT part of the clinton whitehouse crime syndicate.Everyone else gets time to serve.


31 posted on 09/12/2006 7:09:41 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: shankbear
Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew.

Bill and Monica were made for each other. Monica has a crooked mouth.

32 posted on 09/12/2006 7:11:58 PM PDT by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: BlueJ7

Maggie just hit the nail on the head.


33 posted on 09/12/2006 7:14:18 PM PDT by sandra_789 (.)
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To: MHGinTN
From what I understand is, that the files that are "missing" are the inter memos that were written before the official finished article was printed.

These were the notes among those that had handwritten suggestion on the sides of the papers and were initialed.
I would like to believe that there were warnings to make sure no one was blamed for any mistakes that may have been made.
34 posted on 09/12/2006 7:14:39 PM PDT by frannie (Be not afraid of tomorrow - God is already there!)
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To: BlueJ7

Strange we never heard anything from the celebrity "historians" about this insult to history. Future generations have no idea what this vandal took out, and more importantly we have no idea what he put it. This jewel of historical research is now forever tainted on this subject.


35 posted on 09/12/2006 7:20:31 PM PDT by DManA
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To: MHGinTN
Have you ever stopped to consider that Burgler may have planted documents also, not just removed documents.

I rarely hear it mentioned that he may have in fact done a document swap. The only thing that disinclines me to believe he did such a thing was that it would have been harder to catch.
36 posted on 09/12/2006 7:26:16 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: frannie
"Remember on 9/11 the President had only been in office 7 MONTHS and 19 DAYS!"

I mentioned in an earlier post that Clinton blinded the country and prevented us from stopping the 9-11 attack with the Gorelick wall.

I wonder, did Terrorist Super Expert Richard Clark push to have this wall knocked down during President Bush's first 7 months? If so, what was W's reaction to this and what was Condi's and Powells? Why did Clintons wall still stand?

Regards.
37 posted on 09/12/2006 7:31:02 PM PDT by ARE SOLE
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To: frannie

You are exactly right! And unlike Clinton, who had time for pizza parties with interns, Bush entered office with a number of issues to deal with...not even including the delay because of the contested election. From the recession and the need to get tax-cuts passed, to Enron and the corporate scandals (still an issue up until 9/11 and after), the Soviets and the ABM Treaty, the UN and the ICC/Kyoto...and the Chinese crisis after they downed one of our planes, Bush had a much fuller plate than most presidents.

Heck, one of the most important cabinet positions when it came to domestic terrorism concerns (Attorney General) was obstructed as the Democrats attacked Ashcroft for weeks trying to make his Faith a disqualifier for the position. When you consider all of these issues...especially how the Democrats immediately tried to delegitimize his presidency, it's amazing the country got through all this as well as we did. Just looking back at all this, I'd like to ask the conspiracy theorists just when Bush had time to plan the 9/11 attack.


38 posted on 09/12/2006 7:31:07 PM PDT by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *sses.)
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39 posted on 09/12/2006 7:32:01 PM PDT by Fixit
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To: IrishMike
...aborted attacks on Bin Laden

Jimmy Carter also aborted attacks in Iran.

The left has always been the party of abortion.

40 posted on 09/12/2006 7:32:53 PM PDT by wai-ming
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To: olinr

Yah! The same DoJ that wrist slapped Burglar is going to charge these four. Riiiight!

Hey, the Administration is setting a "...new tone in Washington." Better get on board or some on this site will call you a perpetually offended conservative.


41 posted on 09/12/2006 7:33:03 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: yldstrk

Yeah, who'da thunk he could top ole Cat Nap Carter?!?


42 posted on 09/12/2006 7:35:54 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: xxyyxx

Ever been to Levenworth, KS.? I know you were kidding.


43 posted on 09/12/2006 7:36:57 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: MHGinTN

So, if the Clinton library were to burn down, we could actually benefit (in a historical sense)?


44 posted on 09/12/2006 7:38:08 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: BlueJ7
It amazes me how the left has fought so hard against this film, their claim being it is inaccurate, when they fought so hard for Fahrenheit 9-11 which was as inaccurate as a lie can be.
45 posted on 09/12/2006 7:54:16 PM PDT by Family Guy (I disagree with what you said, but I'll defend to the death your right to shut up.)
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To: MHGinTN
The proposed Chairs of the various committees are terrifying. Can you imagine Franks and Rangel as Chairmen of ANYTHING. I wouldn't vote for either for dog catcher, let alone let them determine budget or taxes!
46 posted on 09/12/2006 8:01:20 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: BlueJ7

Of course, she left out the best part of the story: that he hid the documents he stole down the crotch of his pants. Not only is this a major comedic element (good for my business) and a recurring theme of the whole Clinton administration ("Guess what's in my pants!"), but the image of it conveys better than the details just how absurd is the idea of Sandy Berger demanding absolute truth and honesty from anybody. The only logical response must be, "Say, isn't he the guy with the stolen secret documents down his pants?..."


47 posted on 09/12/2006 8:05:50 PM PDT by HHFi
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To: cwb

Yes, especially since they thought he had lost the election in the first place! He didn't have a reason to start planning it BEFORE his election.


48 posted on 09/12/2006 8:15:38 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: singfreedom

That bitter, racist, doddering old man, Conyers, would be chairman of the House Judiciary Committee! The fool has laready been holding mock ups for impeachment hearings. Talk about pissing on our courageous military, impeaching their CIC during war would be like spitting at them that they were dying for an illegal war! God how I hate democrats now; they are truly the enemy within.


49 posted on 09/12/2006 8:54:50 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: BlueJ7

BTTT


50 posted on 09/12/2006 9:13:58 PM PDT by perfect stranger (Senator Ted Kennedy (D-Mass). "Getting bombed has always struck me as the better option.")
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