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Pope's speech sparks Muslim anger (protests erupt in Muslim world)
Telegraph ^ | September 15, 2006 | Damien McElroy

Posted on 09/15/2006 6:15:33 AM PDT by NYer

Angry protests against Pope Benedict XVI erupted in the Islamic world today as the Vatican struggled to explain a reference by the Pontiff to the Prophet Mohammad’s “evil and inhuman” contribution to religion.

The Vatican has tried to defend the Pope after comments he made about Islam and jihad prompted anger in the Muslim world.

 
Pope Benedict XVI
The Pope stressed that the controversial words were not his own

Muslim clerics from Cairo to Kashmir declared the Pope had revived the spirit of the medieval crusades and the official sermon for Friday prayers in Teheran condemned the Pope as “rude and weak-minded”.

Muslims in Rochdale joined in the chorus of criticism, claiming the Pope had cloaked his own feelings in the words of a 14th century Byzantine emperor.

In a speech on Tuesday at Regensburg University in his native Germany Pope Benedict analysed a conversation between Emperor Manuel II Palaeologus and a Persian scholar after the siege of Constantinople in 1391.

He quoted the emperor as saying: “Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”

Pope Benedict went on to question as “unreasonable” Muslim adherence to Jihad, a holy war to propagate the faith.

Today’s protests raised fears of a repetition of the outpouring of anger that followed the publication a year ago of cartoons depicting the Prophet Mohammed in a Danish newspaper.

The controversial Gulf-based cleric, Sheikh Youssef al-Qardawi today called on Muslims to protest, saying: “Muslims have the right to be angry and hurt by these comments from the highest cleric in Christianity.”

Turkey’s ruling AKP party joined the criticism. Its deputy leader likened Pope Benedict to Hitler.

An angry reaction to the remarks there could jeopardise a trip Pope Benedict is planning to make to the country in November.

The head of the Egyptian-based Muslim Brotherhood appealed to Islamic countries to threaten to break off relations with the Vatican unless the Pontiff withdrew his remarks.

The Vatican has so far refused to apologise. A statement by chief Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said: “What is in the Holy Father’s heart is a clear and radical rejection of religious motives for violence.”

The Rochdale-based Ramadan Foundation immediately rejected the Vatican’s explanation. “If the Pope wanted to attack Islam and the Prophet Mohammed’s teachings, he could have been brave enough to say it personally without quoting a 14th-century Byzantine Christian emperor,” it said.


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Tuesday, 12 September 2006
1 posted on 09/15/2006 6:15:34 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 09/15/2006 6:16:34 AM PDT by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: NYer
"a reference by the Pontiff to the Prophet Mohammad’s “evil and inhuman” contribution to religion."

Ouch! Right between the goalposts. Good work, your holiness!

Truth hurts. Truth hits everybody. And as usual, the louder the Islamkazis screech, the more you know something good is going on.

3 posted on 09/15/2006 6:17:51 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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Muslim students burn an effigy of Pope Benedict XVI at a protest rally in Allahabad, India, Friday, Sept. 15, 2006. A growing chorus of Muslim leaders has called on the Pope to apologize for the alleged derogatory comments made by him about Islam. (AP Photo/Rajesh Kumar Singh)

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4 posted on 09/15/2006 6:17:57 AM PDT by NYer ("That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah." Hillel)
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To: NYer
Dear Vatican staff and PR types...
The pastor has spoken well and courageously....

There is no need to apologize or play a political "damage control" game.

5 posted on 09/15/2006 6:18:44 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (All of the answers remain available; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions!)
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To: narses

Much like LIBERALS, the muzzies are ALWAYS pissed off or offended by something. They're a great contrarian indicator. Like the LIBS, if you're pissing them off then you're on the RIGHT TRACK!


6 posted on 09/15/2006 6:19:10 AM PDT by Jazzman1 (l)
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To: NYer

I always have liked this Pope! (And I'm Protestant!)


7 posted on 09/15/2006 6:19:54 AM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (No NAIS! And the USDA can bugger off, too!)
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To: Jazzman1

They HATE the Prince of Peace. The Ultimate answer.


8 posted on 09/15/2006 6:20:07 AM PDT by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: narses; All

Members of Muslim League Jammu Kashmir (MLJK) shout slogans during a demonstration in Srinagar, India, Friday, Sept. 15, 2006. Police detained dozen of members of MLJK after they took out a protest demonstration against Pope Benedict XVI for making what it called 'derogatory' comments about Islam, and seeking an apology from him for hurting the sentiments of Muslims. (AP Photo/Rafiq Maqbool)
9 posted on 09/15/2006 6:20:26 AM PDT by NYer ("That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah." Hillel)
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To: NYer

The Pope hit the truth.


10 posted on 09/15/2006 6:21:03 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: NYer

I think the reaction today is proving the point....


11 posted on 09/15/2006 6:21:14 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: NYer; narses

Never forget what Ramzi Yousef's associate Abdul Hakim Murad said after he was arrested by Filipino authorities in 1995 "two Satans that must be destroyed: the Pope and America." He meant the Pope generically, not the specific Pope at the time, John Paul II.


12 posted on 09/15/2006 6:22:15 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: NYer
The Vatican has so far refused to apologise.

At least he has not caved to the pressure thus far.

13 posted on 09/15/2006 6:22:31 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Nothing is less menacing than a pug growling at you, except a liberal trying to argue his point)
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To: NYer

I hope this sparks a reality check throught Christendom.


14 posted on 09/15/2006 6:22:46 AM PDT by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: NYer

I really like this Pope. He had some giant shoes to fill, but so far I think he's done an excellent job.


15 posted on 09/15/2006 6:24:05 AM PDT by bushinohio
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To: NYer
I like the Pope better. He's not advocating cutting off Muslim heads like the Muslims advocate cutting off Christians/Jews heads.
Take a look around the world. Most of the wars raging right now are countries trying to fight off Muslims.
16 posted on 09/15/2006 6:24:05 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: NYer

LOL... it's protest season again in the Muzzie world.. i get to see funny mad faces of goats everywhere in the net... good find!

17 posted on 09/15/2006 6:24:27 AM PDT by ChristianDefender (Never Give Your Enemy (ROP) A Foothold.)
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To: NYer
Muslims protesting? Burning figures in effigy? It mus be a day ending in 'Y'.
18 posted on 09/15/2006 6:24:49 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Pyro7480

America and the Pope. Hmmmm.....


19 posted on 09/15/2006 6:24:54 AM PDT by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: NYer

"Angry protests against .......erupted in the Islamic world today "

Now THERES something you don't hear everyday.

/sarc


20 posted on 09/15/2006 6:25:13 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Joe Brower

Pope Benedict XVI tells it like it is, without the sugar coating. He is not the diplomat Pope John Paul II was. I believe he knows the direness of the Islamofascist agenda to eliminate all religions except Islam. Christianity is railed daily by Islamofascists, both in and out of this country. How many times have we burned effigies of Mohammed in this country? Ill-slam is the religion of the mentally ill.


21 posted on 09/15/2006 6:25:48 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: narses

America got its revenge on him, at least. Murad's current residence is in the federal Supermax prison in Florence, CO.


22 posted on 09/15/2006 6:26:22 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: NYer

I would love to hear His Holiness answer their demands with "Bite Me, Bozo".


23 posted on 09/15/2006 6:26:25 AM PDT by Rumplemeyer
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To: NYer

Me thinks it is time to call all Catholics to church on Sunday. Fill the offering baskets not only with the usual, but with letters of support for the Pope.


24 posted on 09/15/2006 6:26:35 AM PDT by EBH (All great truths begin as blasphemies. GB Shaw)
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To: Pyro7480

I'll mail him a sausage. :)


25 posted on 09/15/2006 6:27:08 AM PDT by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Lets hope he does not back down. What the Christian world needs are some leaders with backbone and courage.


26 posted on 09/15/2006 6:27:36 AM PDT by bella1 (Support the Minuteman Project.)
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To: NYer

Here's the Holy Father's email for anyone who wants to send support (I did)...

benedictxvi@vatican.va


27 posted on 09/15/2006 6:27:37 AM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: NYer

Those Zany Muslims - protesting this, exploding that. Just another day in the turd world. Next week I hear they've scheduled some outrage about Kroger's plans to offer low-fat coos-coos. Too bad those Muslim guys didn't have jobs - then they would be too busy to protest and blow things up. Maybe their leaders keep them hyped on anger so they don't notice how their lives suck compared to the Immams, Shammans, Clerics, and other palace dwellers.


28 posted on 09/15/2006 6:28:11 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: NYer
The Vatican has so far refused to apologise. A statement by chief Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said: “What is in the Holy Father’s heart is a clear and radical rejection of religious motives for violence.”

It's kind of amusing that when Dubya, Rummy, or Boehner call the leftwing moonbats for what they are, they start foaming at the mouth, just like the Islamofascists do when the Pope does it to them. The RATS and Islamists sure like to dish it out, but scream and rant when somebody calls them on it.

29 posted on 09/15/2006 6:28:28 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("By the time I'm finished with you, you're gonna wish you felt this good again" - Jack Bauer)
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To: ChristianDefender
The headchoppers are proving the Pope's point.
30 posted on 09/15/2006 6:28:44 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: NYer
A growing chorus of Muslim leaders has called on the Pope to apologize for the alleged derogatory comments made by him about Islam.

That's an odd thing to ask for. When was the last time we heard a Muslim apologize to Christians and Jews? Uh....never!
The Jihadists remind me of liberals more and more every day. They attack and attempt to destroy any opposition to their deadly agenda.

31 posted on 09/15/2006 6:29:24 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: NYer

It's wonderful that he said this. It's what reasonable folks think, but it carries more weight coming from him than it would from a freeper.
Though I'm sure he IS a freeper. :)


32 posted on 09/15/2006 6:29:53 AM PDT by Graymatter (TV-free and clean for 3 years, 2 months.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
You are right on with that one. ROP can't handle any criticism. This just shows you how brittle it is. We catholics are constantly poked, prodded and insulted; I haven't seen any of us promise to kill or hurt anyone in the process. Islam still thinks the Crusades were yesterday.
33 posted on 09/15/2006 6:30:06 AM PDT by Xth Legion (Peace is a great alternative, after you've won!)
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To: EBH

Email the Pope your support at this email address:

benedictxvi@vatican.va


34 posted on 09/15/2006 6:30:23 AM PDT by EBH (All great truths begin as blasphemies. GB Shaw)
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To: ChristianDefender

Funny that all these prominent Muslims step forward to protest the Pope's comments. They did NOT step up and protest the actions on 9/11.

The silence was deafening.


35 posted on 09/15/2006 6:31:22 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Never Forget)
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To: NYer

Their reactions aren't exactly helping their side.

"We're *not* violent and inhumane! And we'll beat the snot out of anyone who says we are!"


36 posted on 09/15/2006 6:31:28 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: NYer

Truth causes riots in the Muslim World... Always has, Always Will....

ISLAM THE WORLD RELIGION OF SATAN


37 posted on 09/15/2006 6:32:09 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: NYer
If they read the whole speech they'd see the Pope was talking about the dangers of religion without reason (and reason without religion). Hmmm, Islam doesn't have a problem with those sort of people at all, does it?
38 posted on 09/15/2006 6:32:16 AM PDT by Kiwigal (NZ - Where men are men and sheep are nervous)
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To: NYer

If the shoe fits.


39 posted on 09/15/2006 6:32:24 AM PDT by John D
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To: NYer

Any comment that sends muzzies into a collective tizzy is a good thing. It means the truth was spoken.


40 posted on 09/15/2006 6:32:45 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (Liberals are the Mongol herds destroying America from within.)
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To: NYer

Truth hurts.


41 posted on 09/15/2006 6:34:01 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: roses of sharon
The headchoppers are proving the Pope's point.

A very obvious but ignored fact by most "infidel" leaders and the MSM.. huh ROP.. i'm still waiting for W to retract that ROP statement!

42 posted on 09/15/2006 6:34:25 AM PDT by ChristianDefender (Never Give Your Enemy (ROP) A Foothold.)
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To: NYer

Yep, they look peaceful to me.


43 posted on 09/15/2006 6:34:29 AM PDT by duckman (I refuse to use a tag line...I mean it.)
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To: roses of sharon

When you're taking flak, you must be over the target!


44 posted on 09/15/2006 6:34:52 AM PDT by RexBeach (Will Rogers Never Met Bill Clinton.)
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To: NYer

Can't we get the NFL to put teams in these muslim countries so they have something to expend their energy on

Their favorite past time is raising hell in the streets


45 posted on 09/15/2006 6:35:05 AM PDT by uncbob
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"...he could have been brave enough to say it personally without quoting a 14th-century Byzantine Christian emperor,” it said."

Ok, so I am thinking that, in a debate of this kind, it's probably not the brightest thing to do, when you highlight that your "religion of peace" has been called on its violence-mongering objective since THE 14th CENTURY. Way to go there, islamofascist!


46 posted on 09/15/2006 6:35:25 AM PDT by delphirogatio
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To: concerned about politics

In addition to both liberals and Islamofascists being thin-skinned when it comes to criticism, they have two other things in common:

1. they want to destroy America;

2. the both hate the Jews and want Israel to "just go away".


47 posted on 09/15/2006 6:35:47 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("By the time I'm finished with you, you're gonna wish you felt this good again" - Jack Bauer)
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To: BunnySlippers

The doctrine of Islam tells them to do just that.


48 posted on 09/15/2006 6:35:51 AM PDT by ChristianDefender (Never Give Your Enemy (ROP) A Foothold.)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
The RATS and Islamists sure like to dish it out, but scream and rant when somebody calls them on it.

They do have that in common alright
49 posted on 09/15/2006 6:36:38 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: NYer

Do muslims have any concept at all of how evil and inhuman they are?


50 posted on 09/15/2006 6:37:08 AM PDT by tkathy (Einstein: Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.)
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