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Breaking: Bob Ney Pleads Guilty, Turns States Evidence
CNN ^ | 9-15-06 | CNN

Posted on 09/15/2006 7:49:38 AM PDT by dogbyte12

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To: dogbyte12

The timing on this sure smells.


41 posted on 09/15/2006 9:24:39 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The California Republican Party needs Arnold the way a drowning man needs an anvil.)
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To: Abbeville Conservative

You beat me to it.


42 posted on 09/15/2006 9:27:42 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The California Republican Party needs Arnold the way a drowning man needs an anvil.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
"Perhaps my memory is faulty, but until recently wasn't 'pled' the proper term to use for the past tense of 'plead' (at least in news articles?) 'Pleaded' sounds so awkward and I don't recall hearing or reading it until the last few years."

Oh, it's a slippery slope indeed. I myself have adopted a poor forlorn word, long abandoned through no fault of its' own. That word is "fewer" (as in fewer calories, votes, anything that is countable). I am not asking for money. No, I only ask that you please take pity on this once proud little word and help return it to its' proper place in our language. Thank you. I'll take my soapbox and go now.
43 posted on 09/15/2006 9:29:53 AM PDT by whirleygirl (no longer Texasbound)
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To: Hildy
Why only Reps being prosecuted?

Because so far, only Republicans have admitted to doing anything wrong. The Democrats have been insistent that they did nothing wrong and have refused to return any money.

-PJ

44 posted on 09/15/2006 9:31:01 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: dogbyte12

The lesson is clear. If a Republican politician is tempted to take a bribe, he has to change to the Democrat party first. Democrat immunity is almost absolute.


45 posted on 09/15/2006 9:36:38 AM PDT by Aegedius (Veni, vidi, icked-kay utt-bay.)
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To: AmishDude
DeLay seems to be guilty of the crime of knowing Abramoff's name.

Let's not exaggerate. Whether or not Delay was involved in any of Ambramoff's corruption, Delay's relationship with him was far more than just knowing his name. Anyway, Bob Ney is most likely to cough up others from his own state. I doubt Delay is in jeopardy from this.

46 posted on 09/15/2006 9:40:00 AM PDT by tyke
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To: GoBucks2002
Just one of the many double standards Republicans choose to meekly abide by.

As was the case with Cunningham, the campaign contributions aren't really the issue here. The bribes were under-the-table. Returning campaign contributions is a nice symbolic gesture, but it really doesn't have anything to do with the ongoing scandal.

47 posted on 09/15/2006 9:49:32 AM PDT by uberPatriot
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To: dogbyte12

Woo hoo what's the Capitol Hill pucker factor now?


48 posted on 09/15/2006 9:51:28 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: All

Ney announced he would not run for re-election. Who is competing for his seat and will it be a GOP hold?


49 posted on 09/15/2006 10:02:38 AM PDT by Owen
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To: staytrue

I'm also glad the Republicans are held to a higher standard.

However, I would like to see the Democrats at least be prosecuted for their crimes.


50 posted on 09/15/2006 10:18:42 AM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: Mo1

And the likes of Sandy Berger only get a slap on the wrist?

..and THAT didn't hurt much because Burgler had secret docs rubber-banded and wrapped around his wrists hidden under his coat sleeves.


51 posted on 09/15/2006 10:31:38 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: Mo1

Because we are still dealing with the lingering effects of a court system packed with Klintoon-era appointees to the prosecutorial and judicial seats.

Like the one that dismissed, overturned, or found not guilty the chief fundraising mastermind in Los Angeles who set up Hollywood events for Hillary under the guise of Bill appearing and rubbing elbows...

Even the man on trial was stunned beyond words at the verdict of the court.

Until we get rid of many of them somehow, this charade parade will continue.

A.A.C.


52 posted on 09/15/2006 10:49:47 AM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: RustMartialis

He didn't get the free chartered jet "to play golf". IIRC, he played golf once in a week-long trip that otherwise was productive.

I suppose if he'd turned on the TV in the hotel room he would have gotten a free chartered jet "to enjoy the BBC".


53 posted on 09/15/2006 10:54:16 AM PDT by AmishDude (`[N]on-state actors' can project force around the world more easily than Canada". -- Mark Steyn)
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To: tyke

Well, that's the point, isn't it? DeLay is guilty of knowing Abramoff from other (presumably legal) ventures. Apparently those ventures are not a major topic of investigation here. (Although they were probably thoroughly reviewed.) If DeLay was getting bribes, he was doing a pretty poor job of it, considering Harry Reid managed to pull down more than anybody (except maybe Ney, I forget the details).


54 posted on 09/15/2006 10:57:13 AM PDT by AmishDude (`[N]on-state actors' can project force around the world more easily than Canada". -- Mark Steyn)
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To: notigar
U.S. Family Network. Look it up.

Like I said, guilty of knowing his name. I read a very interesting WaPo article on it and what was fascinating was that they went out of their way to make connections and to obscure when connections weren't there. To wit:

A quarter of a million dollars was donated over two years by the Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians, Abramoff's largest lobbying client, which counted DeLay as an ally in fighting legislation allowing the taxation of its gambling revenue.
"Was donated," but not to DeLay and "counted DeLay as an ally" but again, no connection to the money that wasn't given. Very duplicitous.

To put it bluntly, DeLay seemed to know what the line was and never crossed it, it was Abramoff who was doing all of the money shuffling and putting up the false fronts. In retrospect, it should have been clear that Abramoff was slimy, but otherwise, DeLay's guilt is apparently in knowing Abramoff's name.

55 posted on 09/15/2006 11:05:03 AM PDT by AmishDude (`[N]on-state actors' can project force around the world more easily than Canada". -- Mark Steyn)
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To: AmishDude

What did he do that was in your word "productive"?


56 posted on 09/15/2006 11:06:52 AM PDT by notigar
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To: AmishDude

you may be right, he hasn't been burnt yet.


57 posted on 09/15/2006 11:08:06 AM PDT by notigar
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To: dogbyte12
The Justice Department and Ney's lawyers agreed on a sentencing recommendation of 27 months in prison, provided Ney continues to cooperate, but the final sentence will be determined by a federal judge.

It's a shame he wasn't a dem... If he was, only Abramoff would be going to jail. With dems, the "briber" is the one who goes to jail. The "bribee" gets off scott free, other than having to resign. Look at "The Torch" as an example.

Mark

58 posted on 09/15/2006 11:13:21 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: dogbyte12

The first word in the article is "Republican." Can't remember the last time a Democrat was identified in the first paragraph, let alone first word.


59 posted on 09/15/2006 11:28:03 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: dogbyte12
Sounds right to me. I just caught a snippet on the news. Basically, some businessmen in Europe wanted an exemption on selling aircraft and parts to countries we don't like. Ney promised them that he would take care of it, and in exchange they bribed him with thousands of dollars in poker chips. Seriously. He then took the chips, bet at a casino and won $50,000. That is one thing he admitted to doing. He was a crook. It doesn't matter that democrats do it too. They also need to be punished, but Ney deserves his prison space.

He traded national security interests for 30 pieces of...plastic? Any elected official who would do such a shameful thing deserves prison and I don't care what party they belong to.

60 posted on 09/15/2006 11:38:01 AM PDT by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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