Posted on 09/15/2006 8:32:02 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
BTW, ShillforIllegalscalledDane, when are you going to take a job doing anything other than shilling for illegals, instead of posting on a computer?
Mikey I ain't the one condemning and sliming the farmer getting his milk to market as you are.
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Condemning and sliming? How about tax evasion? Is that ok as well in your world. How about slave labor? OK with you? Maybe burning down the facilities of your competition? ALlthough illegal, it does increase demand for YOUR product.
ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL.
Cry in your milk.
BUMP
I will pay more for milk until this settles out...and the un and under employed American 'poor' filters into these jobs...I have friends from certain underemployed social groups who resent the fact that it has been said (ie. V. Fox) that Americans of Color refuse to do these jobs. It is an insult to these Americans and to America in general..
He did say he checked papers and they had valid ones, although he admitted he couldn't be sure they weren't falsified.
It is true that legal immigrants get scared of being deported as well, and will run with their illegal brethren. It's a side issue for the main point here, but it is an issue.
Then the government would be forced to reduce to tax burden on us so we could actually pay for it costs to put the food on the table.
If money is ever taken out of the governments' budgets along with the politicians and department heads pockets, they collectively develop serious anxiety attacks with simultaneous upset stomachs, headaches, diarrhea, acid reflux, blurred visions, dry mouth, runny noses, and hemorrhoids.
.Any threat to their perceived power, which is equivocated directly to money, and government ceases to function one bit.
"Old tancredo had an issue, e, i, e,i, oh
and with that issue he found politcal PAC pork
e,i,e,i, oh
With a snork snork here, snork snork there, here a snork, there a snork, everywhere a snork, snork, at the political money trough
Old tancredo had a politcal issue, e, i, e, i, oh.
So his slaves live on the plantation. Some things never change.
I don't think you are in a minority, I don't know of many who have a problem with a REAL guest worker program. The politicians have not come up with one yet though. 3 yrs is NOT a guest worker program. Path to citizenship is NOT a guest worker program. Bringing your whole family with you is NOT a guest worker program. Free medical care on the taxpayers back is NOT a guest worker program. Anchor babies is NOT a guest worker program.
When the politicians come up with an actual guest worker program that does not include amnesty of any kind, shuts down the border, and does not use the taxpayer to subsidize it you will see most conservatives get behind it.
Til then..............
and which really CAN'T find workers in america to do the jobs
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And here we go with the LIES again. This is a bold face lie. Certainly he can find LEGAL employees as can ALL farmers. He just doesn't want to dig into his profit. If he can't make a profit without BREAKING THE LAW, then he needs to find another line of work or revampt his business plan.
This is such a BS argument. Why not add tax evasion or slave labor, then say "Hey, I can't make it without doing that". PURE BS
How now brown cow.
"We don't blame the ICE or Department of Homeland Security," said Julie Suarez, spokeswoman for the New York Farm Bureau. The problem lies with politicians who haven't addressed that "we need a viable guest-worker program."
There is already a visa in place to deal with this type of situation. To import unskilled and semi-skilled workers, the employer needs to apply for a visa on behalf of the workers. As part of the application process, he needs to obtain certification from the local Department of Labor establishing that they are unable to fill the positions using legal residents from the local labor pool at the prevailing wage for that kind of work. Yes, there is a lot of paperwork, and yes, the approval process is slow, but its not as if farmers lack a process for hiring foreign workers with a legal visa. The real problem is that while farmers may have difficulty hiring legal resident to work at $4.00 per hour 18 hours a day without benefits, they may have difficulty obtaining Labor Department certification if the prevailing wage is $12 per hour for an 8 hour day.
Fine, why don't you set an example and pay for them.
Afterall you from behind your computer know much better how to run a farm(akin to govt. beuraucrats)
Ol' McDonald hired illegal aliens, Eee, I, Eee, I O.
And on his farm they left their jobs, Eee, I, Eee, I O.
With an illegal worker here, an illegal worker there, here a felon there, a felon, everywhere a felon, felon.
Ol' McDonald hired illegal aliens, Eee, I, Eee, I O.
You don't understand. The reason they do those jobs is because they are legal, they will get better jobs if they are legal. Or do you want to make indentured servants out of them? I am sure we could go to Africa or China or India and get some really cheap labor for these farmers, or maybe we should let them use under age kids?
On a separate note, am I the only one that thinks Dane is a guy that has his trailer house paid for and is living on disablility or some such. That is the type that is so anti-labor.
Who put the gun to Jose's head and said, "you must milk cows".
And you seem to be a willing accomplice to the act.
Yes we must get that evil milk that was milked by impure hands.(rolling eyes)
Well, now he knows for sure.
He could while away the hours
Conferrin' with the flowers
Consultin' with the rain
And his head, he'd be scratchin'
While his thoughts were busy hatchin'
If Dane only had a brain.
He'd unravel ev'ry riddle
For any individ'le
In trouble or in pain
With the thoughts he'd be thinkin'
He could be another Lincoln,
If Dane only had a brain"..
sw
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