Posted on 09/15/2006 8:32:02 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
On the other hand, we can open our borders to cheap, thrid world produce when it is demonstrated we don't have enough workers and we aren't willing to import them, too.
BTW, do you need a web link so you can get your own cow so you can have "American" pure milk?
BTW, have fun with your local zoning board and Elsie the cow kicking where you deserved to be kicked, in your pursuit of American pure milk.
We need a guest worker program for agriculture. Other than that we should build a wall and enforce employer sanctions with a verifiable SS number database. This will encourage illegals to self deport. But we need Mexican labor for our farmers and food processors.
Tisk, Tisk, Tisk. The illegals aren't coming to work for fear of being caught. What shall we do. I'm just all tied up in a tizzy.
...Hmmmm...
Just say...NO...to Bush's/senate's sorry excuse for letting illegals into our country...
And you have experience in running a farm how?
A gun shop is much different than a farm.
Well, if it means IYW, that not getting in the way of getting milk to market, does not mean I have a brain, so be it.
BTW, do you need a web link so you can get your own cow so you can have "American" pure milk?
BTW, have fun with your local zoning board and Elsie the cow kicking where you deserved to be kicked, in your pursuit of American pure milk.
"Yes we must get that evil milk that was milked by impure hands.(rolling eyes)"
Illegal hands Dane.... but then you already know that.
Fine then get yourself a cow and get your own milk. No one is stopping you.
Other countries have sensible guest worker programs. We do not because our congress critters cannot see the difference between a sensible guest worker program and pandering to the ethnic lobby.
Japan, for instance, puts few restricts on the number of guest workers imported. They don't have to because one restriction provides an economic disincentive to lay off Japanese workers to hire foreign workers-- a 10% premium must be paid over the going wage in the industry for foreign workers. This works great for chicken pluckers (a job Japanese really do not want to do) and talented foreign software engineers (who need to be at least 10% more productive than their Japanese counterparts to make it pay).
Were America to adopt a similar approach, some of the best Latin American construction workers-- roofers, drywall, etc. would do just fine because they are well worth the 10% premium in productivity.
Switzerland's work force has about 20% foreign workers, far more than outs. But again, citizenship isn't handed out like candy. Foreign workers can remain foreign workers for a very long time, but they can only become citizens throught the acceptance of the local community. They also require foreign workers to be paid the prevailing wage to make sure it isn't a ruse for Swiss employers to keep wage rates down.
Ultimately, America will support a guest worker program once our government shows it is serious about deporting criminals, gang-bangers, welfare queens and fifth columnists. The pro-illegal lobby has only itself to blame for purposely confusing illegal immigration with legal immigration.
Oh, and one other thing-- since we have far more people in the world aspiring to be guest workers than we have available vacancies, shouldn't preference be given to those who have demonstrated the most respect for our laws by applying to come in legally? Or learning English? Or supporting American culture, values and principles?
Hey, I was walking down the street and this guy comes up to me and offers me a 54" big-screen plasma TV for $75 bucks... How was *I* supposed to know it was stolen?!??
Now I know those $6/hr workers had paperwork, how was *I* supposed to know they were forged?!?
Sure.
I do think there is a way to solve this. The govt should require a photo ID with an employee ID number be provided to employers when they hire. Then, they should have a website that allows the employer to put in the ID#, and see the picture on the card. Perhaps they can be required to put in their employer ID and P.I.N as well to prevent browsing the system.
That would do it. Forged docs would not match a photo/# screen like that.
Spot on post!
Unless they put them on a plane, they probably just come down here and loiter until they can go back to Canada. LOL!
I agree. Liberals complain that wages are stagnant despite the relatively good economy. It's a direct result of our dependence on illegal alien labor.
Dane, you are slipping. It took you five minutes, eight seconds to show up on an immigration thread to support the insupportable.
Actually, part of the contract signed with the government for the workers is a guarantee that the employee will purchase a plane ticket back to the worker's home town.
The employees also have to provide food and shelter for the workers (which is actually typical for farm work, as in this case where the place where the mexicans lived was provided by the dairy farmer).
There was just a story about the Canadian program on the news somewhere.
I don't agree. Canada runs a program where the workers are legal, and they get lots of mexicans -- mexico has a large supply of workers who can't find jobs.
So yes, I think that if we have a legal program, we would have no problem hiring mexicans to come over in a temporary guest worker program.
The key is to separate the program from citizenship, and to not allow illegal immigrants to join the program while they are here in the country.
Ok, I've done this job a few times. My best friend when I was a kid lived on a dairy farm.
First, I'm 100% sure he has milking machines. These illegals are not sitting on a three legged stool squeezing teats.
The milking machines have to be applied, disinfected, etc, etc. Its labor intensive and the hours suck.
This farmer is worried about his profit margin only. He's more than comfortable letting you and I subsidize his lifestyle.
Screw him.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.