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Anti-Spam Group to Keep Company on List
AP ^ | 9/15/6 | CARLA K. JOHNSON

Posted on 09/15/2006 3:43:51 PM PDT by SmithL

CHICAGO -- The head of an organization that fights unwanted bulk e-mail said Friday that an Illinois company will remain on its block list despite a court order and a steep monetary judgment.

A federal judge on Wednesday ordered the Spamhaus Project, an international anti-spam organization, to pay $11.7 million in damages to Wheeling-based e360 Insight LLC for blacklisting the company.

U.S. District Judge Charles Kocoras also ordered Spamhaus to post a notice on its Web site stating that e360 Insight is not a spammer.

The judge's order noted that Spamhaus initially defended the case, but then withdrew. Without a challenge from Spamhaus, the judge wrote, "we find that Spamhaus has wrongfully placed Plaintiffs on its blacklist of companies who have sent spam e-mail."

Spamhaus suggested it did not defend the case because it did not believe a court in Illinois had jurisdiction over the U.K.-based organization.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: spam; spammer; spammityspam; spamspamspamspam
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Spamhaus had better stay out of Chicago.
1 posted on 09/15/2006 3:43:52 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

I like spam, especially with Jarlsberg cheese slices on wheat toast.


2 posted on 09/15/2006 3:45:35 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy!" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: ShadowAce

pkill -9 spam


3 posted on 09/15/2006 3:47:34 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: SmithL
"Our client does not send spam e-mails. Our client only sends e-mail messages to persons opting in to a list where they agree to accept e-mail announcements,"

Spammers lie.

4 posted on 09/15/2006 3:59:12 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (History convinces me that bad government results from too much governemnt. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Jeff Gordon

I hate spam, public floggings of proven spammers would be appropriate!


5 posted on 09/15/2006 4:06:17 PM PDT by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY)
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To: Jeff Gordon

They often sell or convey the email to others covered by the fine print of an opt in to receive announcements. If that happens once, the spam will come like a chain letter forever.


6 posted on 09/15/2006 4:08:46 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Jeff Gordon
Spammers lie.

When you go to a web site where you actually need something, often a series of prechecked boxes pop up with a misleading description like "Yes I am willing to receive emails from selected associated businesses".
Unless you are alert and uncheck them, *shazam* you are deemed to have "requested" it.

Lying is not the term I would use. @&#*#^@%@$#)(*@ is more like it.

7 posted on 09/15/2006 4:12:52 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: SmithL

Anyone that sends spam should be charged with felonies and every asset they have confiscated.


8 posted on 09/15/2006 4:18:32 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: SmithL
Our client does not send spam e-mails. Our client only sends e-mail messages to persons opting in to a list where they agree to accept e-mail announcements...

If I had a nickel for every time a spammer claimed I "opted-in" to their bulldada, I'd be able to pay off the national debt and have enough left over to buy everyone on this forum a Six-Dollar Burger combo at Carl's Jr.

9 posted on 09/15/2006 4:27:16 PM PDT by Prime Choice (True Conservatives don't vote for Liberals just because they have an 'R' by their name.)
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To: SmithL
I run a pretty busy email server... we receive around 100,000 emails per day.

Of those, on average about 40,000+ per day are blocked outright thanks to the VERY wonderful xbl-sbl Spamhaus blacklist.

We rarely get a complaint about a false-positive where some innocent fella is blocked, and in those cases, Spamhaus is very good at un-blacklisting people.

In other words, the reason this spammer went after Spamhaus is because it's so effective at blocking spam!

This also isn't the first time some spammer has attacked the blacklists... Maybe it's one of the first *legal* attempts though. Spammers in the past have launched huge denial-of-service attacks on blacklist servers.

10 posted on 09/15/2006 4:42:32 PM PDT by MPB
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To: SmithL
Clueless Judge Alert.

Blocklists do not BLOCK spam spigots.

They are merely lists that local admins may use to control WHAT COMES ONTO THEIR OWN PROPERTY.

It is as if you were visiting a city, and the Tourist Guide said, "Avoid the High Crime southeast corner of town".

YOU may then, individually decide if you want to go there, or not.

The Tourist Guide did not block you from going there.

11 posted on 09/15/2006 5:10:02 PM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: Anti-Bubba182

My Daughter-In-Law gave her cell phone number to an on line business without reading the small print, which said ,in effect, we will give your number to anybody we want to and by giving it to us you agree to that.

It pays to read the small print. She had to have her number changed she was getting so many spam calls.


12 posted on 09/15/2006 5:58:32 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Gorzaloon

This judge reminds me of the time Teddy Kennedy (I believe it was) heard the term "information highway" and suggested legislation was needed to keep people from drinking and using the information highway.

At another point there was actually a proposal at the federal level to make it a crime to be under the influence of adult beverages and go online.

It would be funny if their ignorance was not so dangerous.


13 posted on 09/15/2006 6:08:35 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: Graybeard58

The trouble with spam is that once it starts your email will never be clean again. You might as well close it and start again and hope no one who has your email gives it out.


14 posted on 09/15/2006 6:11:59 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: ChildOfThe60s
At another point there was actually a proposal at the federal level to make it a crime to be under the influence of adult beverages and go online.

Wow, we used to joke about drunken telecomming way back in the .....hmmm...1200 Baud Era.

15 posted on 09/15/2006 6:12:45 PM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: Gorzaloon

Well, shoot, at 1200 baud you could be semi comatose and keep up with the net. You almost had to be drunk to stand the tediousness.


16 posted on 09/15/2006 6:15:56 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: Graybeard58
It pays to read the small print. She had to have her number changed she was getting so many spam calls.

Sounds like one of those "Free" Ringtone places.

Listen. Save her lots of trouble, and print this in 72 Point Type in fluorescent red:

**NOTHING IS "FREE" ONLINE, DAMMIT!!!!!!**


17 posted on 09/15/2006 6:20:45 PM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: Gorzaloon
Let me correct myself. I just checked at snopes.com and it was apparently an April fool's gag

The respected magazine PC Computing was overcome by an attack of pranking fever in 1994 when it published an article describing a bill before the U.S. Congress. SB 040194 would make it a crime to use the Internet while intoxicated or to discuss sexual matters online. Blaming the term 'Information Superhighway' for the legislators' zeal on this issue, the article's author explained "Congress apparently thinks being drunk on a highway is bad no matter what kind of highway it is."

Let me say in my defense that it is the kind of absurdity we have come to expect from the federal government, thus making it very believable.

18 posted on 09/15/2006 6:21:29 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: Prime Choice

No onions on my buger, please.


19 posted on 09/15/2006 6:25:58 PM PDT by TankerKC (Step Back! Doors Closing.)
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To: TankerKC

buger? Burger!


20 posted on 09/15/2006 6:28:21 PM PDT by TankerKC (Step Back! Doors Closing.)
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