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BIG TOBACCO'S SHOWDOWN IN THE WEST
National Center for Policy Analysis ^

Posted on 09/15/2006 3:44:26 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

California is poised to enact the largest one-time cigarette tax hike ever -- adding $2.60 per pack -- on top of an already existing 87 cent excise tax, bringing the average price for a pack of cigarettes to $6.55, says Nanette Byrnes in BusinessWeek.

The new measure is particularly worrisome for tobacco companies because of California's large share of the tobacco market; the state is home to 9 percent of all U.S. smokers.

In addition, cigarette makers argue that the tax is unfair, and an irresponsible spending of the public's money:

** The measure does not require that all tax money be spent on programs to help smokers quit or on treating smoker's illnesses.

** It needlessly includes an antitrust exemption for hospital companies.

** It will only lead to increases in untaxed counterfeits and buying from other states will hurt sales, undermining the tobacco tax revenue.

Despite the tobacco industry's efforts, many expect the mandate to pass easily. But that will not end the fight, says Byrnes. Other states are generating similar proposals:

** In Missouri, there is a court battle to get a measure that would increase taxes by 80 cents per pack on the November ballot.

** Several candidates running for office in Maryland, and some already in power, are pushing for a $1 per pack increase.

Source: Nanette Byrnes, "Big Tobacco's Showdown in the West," NewsWeek, September 11, 2006.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Maryland; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: calinitiatives; prop86; tobaccotax; whacked

1 posted on 09/15/2006 3:44:27 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

I'm gonna buy me a small 7-11 on the NV side of the CA-NV border.....


2 posted on 09/15/2006 3:45:34 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

.....On an Indian Reservation.


3 posted on 09/15/2006 3:47:43 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Yep, put it right there at Whiskey Pete's Casino, which is right on the California-Nevada border off I-15.

Don't know the current diff. between Calif. and Nevada cig. taxes, but Nevada is going to increase their cigarette tax revenue for sure.


4 posted on 09/15/2006 3:49:08 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: bruinbirdman

5 posted on 09/15/2006 3:49:59 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: bruinbirdman

These bass turds coming up with these taxes on smokes need to be taken out and shot. They are just a bunch of lowlife criminals.


6 posted on 09/15/2006 3:50:58 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (You can't defeat your enemy unless you are willing to get down in the mud with him.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Which is where we are buying our now! This makes me so freaking angry. They are ripping us off and taking away our rights as usual.


7 posted on 09/15/2006 3:53:10 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Whoo Hoo! The meat head strikes again.


8 posted on 09/15/2006 3:53:52 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: ladyinred

Opps, "Buying Ours now" Sorry.


9 posted on 09/15/2006 3:54:27 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: bruinbirdman

Tabacco should boycott California completely. Let them figure out how to fund their medicare and other programs! Big Tobacco, tell California politicians to go to Hell!


10 posted on 09/15/2006 3:55:25 PM PDT by Bommer
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To: ladyinred

I take it you mean the real "Meathead" and not me. I'm the bonehead.


11 posted on 09/15/2006 3:58:05 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (You can't defeat your enemy unless you are willing to get down in the mud with him.)
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To: bruinbirdman

And they thought they had problems with smuggling people...just wait til this hits.


12 posted on 09/15/2006 4:06:20 PM PDT by xp38
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To: bruinbirdman

No one should ever be allowed to file a lawsuit for any reason.This is simply extortion disguised as law and the money is used to feed those who are NOT needy.


13 posted on 09/15/2006 4:15:19 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: bruinbirdman

Anyone who votes for this is pond scum.


14 posted on 09/15/2006 4:16:57 PM PDT by microgood
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To: bruinbirdman; Gabz; SheLion

Ping


15 posted on 09/15/2006 4:20:33 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: bruinbirdman

Hello black market and goodbye tax income to the state of California.


16 posted on 09/15/2006 4:31:56 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: taxesareforever

Black market and Internet orders:-)


17 posted on 09/15/2006 4:37:38 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: taxesareforever

My husband is a truck driver and will be purchasing ours in another state if this passes. They will be very busy with all the black market cigs and potential smuggling from otherwise law abiding citizens. I can't even tell you how pi$$ed off I will be if this passes. Whatever happened to "no taxation without representation"? I think I will work on a discrimination suit against the state. Smokers are a minority in this state.


18 posted on 09/15/2006 4:46:31 PM PDT by Not just another dumb blonde
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To: bruinbirdman
Organized crime is going to make a kiling in CA.

They are already making fortunes in NYC because of tobacco taxes and gun bans.

Keep an eye out for the guidos buying malibu beachfront mansions with nicotine stained money.
19 posted on 09/15/2006 4:50:54 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: bruinbirdman
While in Armenia, Marlboro imported from the USA were $8.00 a carton with their tax on the cigarettes.
20 posted on 09/15/2006 4:56:09 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
While in Armenia, Marlboro imported from the USA were $8.00 a carton with their tax on the cigarettes

Better check the born-on date on those.
21 posted on 09/15/2006 5:07:22 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: bruinbirdman; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; metesky; ...

Nanny State PING..........


Smoker or not --- one has to realize it will NOT stop with cigarettes.........


22 posted on 09/15/2006 5:12:21 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Bommer
Tabacco should boycott California completely. Let them figure out how to fund their medicare and other programs! Big Tobacco, tell California politicians to go to Hell!

It's a great idea, and I agree with it - but it can not happen. The Master Settlement Agreement of 1998 prohibits the tobacco companies from stopping sales of their product in the states that signed on, and California is one of them.

23 posted on 09/15/2006 5:15:08 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Not just another dumb blonde
"My husband is a truck driver and will be purchasing ours in another state if this passes."

It won't be long before they have spectacular-level penalties for non-taxed cigarettes found in your possession. Likewise, they will have the TSA inspecting bags for cigarettes....

The non-smokers who cheer these actions have no idea what this slippery slope will take them to (Fat Tax on fast food, etc.). Selective taxation is clearly an assault on personal freedom, under the guise of "public health".

I do not visit Kalifornia regularly anymore, as it has become a third world country, with half the populations in major cities that can't even speak English.....

Where the bloodsucking Lawyers attacked big tobacco's deep pockets to the tune of BILLIONS in fees they collected, the settlement money went right into the general funds of the states, as opposed to going to pay "health-related costs" that tobacco was pilloried for in the suit.....what a joke.

24 posted on 09/15/2006 5:19:40 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
I'm gonna buy me a small 7-11 on the NV side of the CA-NV border.....

You were born to make your fortune!

25 posted on 09/15/2006 5:22:40 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Gabz

Whisky rebellion, anyone?


26 posted on 09/15/2006 5:24:32 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: patton

And soon.................PLEASE.........


27 posted on 09/15/2006 5:29:03 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Why won't the NAALCP invoke the Equal Protection Clause of the US Constitution?


28 posted on 09/15/2006 5:36:15 PM PDT by nygoose
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To: Gabz
Heck, even that tax hike is still cheaper than Chicago. BTW, tomorrow's the day for my monthly "sin tax avoidance run" to Wisconsin for cigarettes, wine and good old fashion booze. Plus gas prices are 50 cents a gallon cheaper than my neighborhood station. Nice drive to get out of the city and feel good about saving all that tax money.
29 posted on 09/15/2006 5:37:39 PM PDT by bfree (Liberalism-the yellow meat,)
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To: Gabz

I wonder how much money I could make running smokes?

A good bit, I'd say. Sounds like a hell of a business oppurtunity.


30 posted on 09/15/2006 6:22:00 PM PDT by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: bfree

Enjoy your road trip!!!!!!!

We're going to be working with a couple other folks to clear a tree that came down in the storm that wasn't a storm ( Ernesto)


31 posted on 09/15/2006 6:35:09 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: xp38
I told someone in my office that when they raised the cig tax here (price is now around $7.00 a pack) we would see lots of smuggling.

I've been offered cigs on the street from a guy with a backpack at $5.00 a pack twice in the past week.

32 posted on 09/15/2006 7:25:15 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: bfree
That's why I drive to Indiana :-)

Knowing I'm screwing those thieves Daley and Bag-o-shitz just makes that first puff even sweeter.

33 posted on 09/15/2006 7:27:17 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
I'm gonna buy me a small 7-11 on the NV side of the CA-NV border.....

I already own a 1-ton pickup and an enclosed trailer...........

34 posted on 09/15/2006 7:37:08 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Gabz

Thanks for the ping!


35 posted on 09/15/2006 8:58:15 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Not just another dumb blonde

Hey, I feel your pain. Not that I am a smoker but that the government thinks they know what is best for us. They can screw anything up and brush it off as a bad decision. But let anyone light one up and they are ready to call out the gestapo. Freedom has a new ring to it today. It only means freedom in line with what government dictates. A sorry affair. Reeaaalll sorry affair. I say, I hope your husband makes a real nest egg with his "additional" haul.


36 posted on 09/15/2006 11:09:09 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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