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Student takes one year to complete 4-year U.Va. degree
AP/The Daily Progress via The Free Lance-Star ^ | 19 Sep 06 | AARON KESSLER

Posted on 09/20/2006 2:18:11 AM PDT by leadpenny

CHARLOTTESVILLE (AP) - With college tuition rising to record levels across the country, one University of Virginia student figured out a way to save himself from the crush of student-loan debt.

The solution? He finished college in just one year.

David Banh, of Annandale, is the first person ever to complete U.Va.'s traditional four-year bachelor's program in a single year.

"I was impressed _ I would say amazed," said Donald Ramirez, vice chairman of the mathematics department.

Banh, who turns 19 later this month, graduated from Thomas Jefferson High School in Alexandria in 2005. A year and a summer later, he was a U.Va. alumnus.

Thanks to a mountain of advanced placement credits, Banh was already ahead of the game.

"I flirted with the idea back in high school, and thought I could finish college in a year and a half, in three semesters," Banh said. "But after my first semester (at U.Va.), I realized I had all this extra time, and that if I stayed for a second year I didn't have a way to pay for it without taking out loans."

So he went for it _ taking 11 classes in the spring of 2006 to complete his bachelor's in mathematics.

"It was amazing more of the classes didn't overlap," he said. "Only two of them did, where they were both scheduled for the same time."

One of the subjects dealt with an area Banh was already familiar with from high school, so he was able to pull it off, and passed both classes. At the end of the 2006 term, Banh had completed his degree in math, but realized he was only three credits short of double majoring in physics.

"I really wanted the physics," he said. So he took one final class over the summer and graduated in August with a double major.

Now he's gone on to the graduate program at U.Va., and is currently a Ph.D. candidate in mathematics.

Banh said he was already halfway to his degree before stepping foot on campus. He had a whopping 72 credits from advanced placement exams in high school.

"I basically took the entire gamut of AP credits," he said. "I just took everything I could."

U.Va., however, allows only a maximum of 60 such credits to be used toward the 120 it takes to obtain a bachelor's degree. So Banh started the clock with 60 when he arrived in Charlottesville.

"I think it's safe to say I've never seen a person with that many advanced placement credits before," Ramirez said. "Many times we'll see someone come in with six credits, or sometimes 15 at the most."

Banh, then, could have breezed through a normal schedule of classes, and he would have still finished in two years. But he said he thought a year and a half would be a better timetable. He signed up for 23 credit hours his first semester at U.Va., but found the workload wasn't as bad as he thought it might be.

"I found myself sitting around a lot with free time," he said.

Banh's parents, first-generation Vietnamese immigrants, did not have enough money to pay for both his education and that of his siblings. He could have taken out loans for a second year, or taken on a part-time job while completing his studies. But he said it seemed to make more sense to just finish the degree in one year.

The university has regulations concerning how many classes students can take, and Banh had to obtain special permission from the School of Arts & Sciences to continue. While that request was making its way through the chain of command, he signed up for all the courses he could to complete the majors, and left the other classes for when he got the word. Then he waited. And waited.

"I got approval the day before the second semester started," Banh said.

While he may have been busy, Banh said he never had much of a problem making friends, thanks in large part to living in a dorm. And he continues to live in undergraduate housing in the Lambeth Field residences, even though he is now a graduate student.

"If I wanted to, I could probably recreate the four-year U.Va. experience for myself," he said. "I still live with the same friends I had last year only now I'll be going off to do research, and of course I pay zero tuition."

Banh's professors were impressed. "From the very beginning, I was amazed," said Irena Lasiecka, a mathematics professor who taught Banh. "He was definitely the best student in the class, and also the most mature even though he was younger."

Lasiecka was so impressed that she helped Banh achieve admission to the Ph.D. program.

"Some of the other grad students still consider him a big kid, because he's so young," she said. "But his abilities are great. It's obvious that he's exceptionally gifted."

As for what's next for Banh, he is continuing his studies in mathematics, but is also considering going to law school instead.

Ramirez doubts he'll see anyone else accomplish what Banh did as an undergraduate.

"I've been here 39 years, so maybe it will happen again in another 39 years."


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1 posted on 09/20/2006 2:18:13 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

Okay, now I feel completely worthless. I need 3 more classes for my BS, and can't seem to find the time. That is one amazingly dedicated (and smart!) young man.


2 posted on 09/20/2006 2:28:21 AM PDT by tongue-tied (Go Cubs!)
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To: Gengis Khan
Banh's parents, first-generation Vietnamese immigrants, did not have enough money to pay for both his education and that of his siblings. He could have taken out loans for a second year, or taken on a part-time job while completing his studies. But he said it seemed to make more sense to just finish the degree in one year.
3 posted on 09/20/2006 2:29:36 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: leadpenny

"Banh said he was already halfway to his degree before stepping foot on campus. He had a whopping 72 credits from advanced placement exams in high school."


Something for parents to consider the next time their teenager says "I'm never going to need this dumb class." Those piddly core requirement courses cost just as much as the upper level ones. Testing out of even 12 or 15 credits can mean thousands in savings.


Neat story, btw - thanks for posting it! :)


4 posted on 09/20/2006 2:30:38 AM PDT by DemforBush
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To: tongue-tied

School and I never got along. Needless to say it's been a struggle. The Army "let" me get my degree when I was 15 years out of high school. Kind of like an offer I couldn't refuse.

This story just makes me feel, well, inadequate.


5 posted on 09/20/2006 2:34:55 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: DemforBush

It is a feel good story, especially when you consider what his parents had to go through to get here.


6 posted on 09/20/2006 2:37:07 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: DemforBush

Testing out of even 12 or 15 credits can mean thousands in savings.




Or they can check and see if their school district offers "dual credit" through a community college. Many students are graduating high school and receiving their AA's at the same time through this type of program, thus eliminating the first two years of college requirements (and athe first two years of tuition.) The student transfers in as a Junior to finish their bachelors. Our local community college also have something called a Collegiate High school which is akin to "dual credit."

http://www.spcollege.edu/ac/dc/

http://www.spcollege.edu/spchs/mission.htm


7 posted on 09/20/2006 2:40:49 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: dawn53

I hadn't heard of that before, but it sounds like a great idea!


8 posted on 09/20/2006 2:44:24 AM PDT by DemforBush
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bookmarked


9 posted on 09/20/2006 2:47:59 AM PDT by AmeriBrit ( Doing the work for the good of the nation the MSM won't do!)
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To: leadpenny

I hope this isn't a commentary on the quality of the education he received. As most public schools are failing most students, is the same thing happening at the college level? I'm not saying it is, just asking.

It's probably that the kid is a genius with a work ethic that has no bounds. Good going. Please use it for good. There is way too much evil going around these days.


10 posted on 09/20/2006 2:53:07 AM PDT by Frwy (Eternity without Jesus is a hell-of-a long time.)
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To: tongue-tied

Big deal. It took me 9 years to earn a four year degree. ;-)


11 posted on 09/20/2006 2:53:55 AM PDT by Gamecock (The GRPL: Because life is too short for bad Theology*)
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To: leadpenny

He has no plans for world domination-yet... : )


12 posted on 09/20/2006 2:56:37 AM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Frwy

TJ HS was established about 25 years ago as a magnet school for the Northern Virginia area. To even go there you have to be top notch.


13 posted on 09/20/2006 2:58:16 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
So he went for it _ taking 11 classes in the spring of 2006 to complete his bachelor's in mathematics.

It took me 2 years to complete a BS in mathematics. But that is not counting the other 2 years I spent taking various liberal arts and humanities courses 16 years previously.

14 posted on 09/20/2006 2:58:16 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 120-134)
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To: leadpenny

We all have different gifts. That's not an excuse. It's a blessing. It's mandatory. Be content with who you are and use your gifts with the same enthusiasm the kid in the story does. You can't miss. We'd be in a bigger mess than we are if we were all geniuses.

Oh, and stop and smell the roses too.


15 posted on 09/20/2006 2:58:56 AM PDT by Frwy (Eternity without Jesus is a hell-of-a long time.)
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To: Alouette

I took dummy math at Embry-Riddle.


16 posted on 09/20/2006 2:59:37 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Frwy

"It's probably that the kid is a genius with a work ethic that has no bounds. Good going. Please use it for good. There is way too much evil going around these days."

I'm guessing he didn't spend a lot of time at the beer keg or smokin pot. Good for him.


17 posted on 09/20/2006 2:59:48 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Frwy

I second all that.


18 posted on 09/20/2006 3:02:19 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
He signed up for 23 credit hours his first semester at U.Va., but found the workload wasn't as bad as he thought it might be.

"I found myself sitting around a lot with free time," he said.

Okay, I'm going back to bed ...

19 posted on 09/20/2006 3:09:02 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Please pray for Vlad's four top incisors to arrive real soon!)
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To: leadpenny

Amazing that they let him take classes that conflicted! It seems wrong, somehow.

Not that I don't admire him, I do!

72 AP credits is awesome. My older son, with an IB degree, had two semester's worth, and my younger son, the slacker, has one semester's worth.

I keep telling them about CLEP tests, but they won't listen.

Heck, in high school I tried to get them to go to junior college instead (an option in Virginia), but they wouldn't listen.

I think they are enjoying staying in school (on mom and dad's dime) just a little bit longer.


20 posted on 09/20/2006 3:10:20 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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