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Bombshell: ABC independently confirms success of CIA “torture” tactics
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Posted on 09/20/2006 7:16:07 PM PDT by thehumanlynx
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To: airborne
The techniques sought by the CIA are: induced hypothermia; forcing suspects to stand for prolonged periods; sleep deprivation; a technique called "the attention grab" where a suspect's shirt is forcefully seized; the "attention slap" or open hand slapping that hurts but does not lead to physical damage; the "belly slap"; and sound and light manipulation. Ross: "About 2 and a half minutes."
2 1/2 minutes of belly slaps and shirt grabs?
And they caved? Oooh, what tough guys when the tables are turned. Oh, how 'awful'... (end sarcasm)
To: Torie
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posted on
09/20/2006 7:49:33 PM PDT
by
thehumanlynx
(“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” -Edmund Burke)
To: thehumanlynx
To: mylife
If it works so great why havent all the Gitmo detainees spilt it?How do you know what anyone at Gitmo spilt?
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posted on
09/20/2006 7:49:56 PM PDT
by
airborne
(Fecal matter is en route to fan! Contact is imminent!)
To: Torie
The conventional wisdom is that torture does not produce good intel. "Coventional wisdom", as propagated by the MSM, is always in service of an agenda. And, almost always, a stone lie.
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posted on
09/20/2006 7:50:26 PM PDT
by
okie01
(The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
To: 91B
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posted on
09/20/2006 7:51:15 PM PDT
by
thehumanlynx
(“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” -Edmund Burke)
To: Torie
The conventional wisdom Fairly recent invention that attempts to deny thousands of years of proven success is that torture does not produce good intel.Fixed it. Study military history. Pick ANY time period you like.
Semper Fidelis
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posted on
09/20/2006 7:51:16 PM PDT
by
MrEdd
(It's not funny anymore.)
To: fortunecookie
Is it wise for them to share these techniques with the public?
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posted on
09/20/2006 7:51:46 PM PDT
by
streetpreacher
(What if you're wrong?)
To: Lancey Howard
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posted on
09/20/2006 7:52:03 PM PDT
by
CurlyBill
(Democrats: Weak on defense, weak on crime, tough on your wallet)
To: Spktyr; Torie; All
Chemical-assisted interrogation is far, far more reliable. The subject simply doesn't have the willpower to lie, and frightening them makes it even easier to get the info needed. Better living through modern chemistry. Physical "torture" is so 18th century. Quality pharma's will always produce fantastic results. Worst case; we spend a Gajillion bucks figuring out why Achmed freaked out. After he willingly puts out all information at his disposal, and recruits several "into the fold".
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posted on
09/20/2006 7:52:07 PM PDT
by
ARealMothersSonForever
(We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
To: thehumanlynx; Dog Gone; Grampa Dave; NormsRevenge; dalereed; tubebender; Ernest_at_the_Beach
One man's hazing is another man's torment is yet another man's torture. The distictions many times blur into an out of focus pile of puss and indistinguishable subjectivity!!!
Who sets the standards or makes the distinctions in these matters of "degree?" It's all "relative" like in Einstein being played by Sean Penn, or like the holidays when we have Mrs. Wasp's relatives over...
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posted on
09/20/2006 7:52:32 PM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(With government as your savior from disaster, it must first be your master!!!)
To: fortunecookie
For anyone who has gone through SERE training, waterboarding can be very traumatic.
IS very traumatic.
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posted on
09/20/2006 7:52:42 PM PDT
by
airborne
(Fecal matter is en route to fan! Contact is imminent!)
To: mylife
CIA operatives did this interrogation. not the military.
not sure what you mean about not leaving a mark. Ever swallowed water and then coughed it out? I have many times and have no discernable issues after the terrifying incident.
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posted on
09/20/2006 7:52:56 PM PDT
by
thehumanlynx
(“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” -Edmund Burke)
To: fortunecookie
hypothermia Its miserable, we use it to weed out would be seals.
But Honestly 2 and 1/2 minutes max?
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posted on
09/20/2006 7:53:11 PM PDT
by
mylife
(the roar of masses could be farts)
To: airborne
Is it possible to be trained to resist waterboarding? Will al Queda training camps do it to trainees a few times to show them that it doesn't really hurt them and train them to resist the initial panic response?
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posted on
09/20/2006 7:53:44 PM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(Dems - Your conduct is an invitation to the enemy, yet few of you have heart enough to join them.)
To: fortunecookie
it was actually waterboard that broke Khalid. Some others apparently broke with the attention grab and other techniques. one got off the board sobbing... lol. I love that
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posted on
09/20/2006 7:54:33 PM PDT
by
thehumanlynx
(“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” -Edmund Burke)
To: airborne
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posted on
09/20/2006 7:54:38 PM PDT
by
mylife
(the roar of masses could be farts)
To: Torie
The conventional wisdom--torture doesn't produce good intel--is correct. The fact is that the 'rough' interrogation techniques our people have been using, which the wusses on the left misname 'torture', are more subtle and effective than torture.
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posted on
09/20/2006 7:55:29 PM PDT
by
The_Reader_David
(And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
To: mylife
"14 seconds to 2 and 1/2 minutes to spill the beans?
It just sounds to easy and effective"
Perhaps some people have never been to the dentist, nor been subjected to general anesthesia. My personal best is 25 seconds.
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posted on
09/20/2006 7:55:54 PM PDT
by
ARealMothersSonForever
(We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
To: airborne
That non-stop Barry Manilow will do it to you.
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posted on
09/20/2006 7:55:57 PM PDT
by
Arm_Bears
(See Rock City!)
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