Posted on 09/21/2006 3:00:04 PM PDT by shrinkermd
From the desk of Paul Belien on Wed, 2006-09-20 23:11 Dr Koenraad Elst, one of Belgiums best orientalists and an occasional contributor to this website (if I had time I would translate more of his Dutch-language contributions into English), told me last week that he thinks Islam is in decline, despite its impressive demographic and military surge which according to Dr Elst is merely a last upheaval.
He acknowledges, however, that this decline can take some time (at least in terms of the individual human life span) and that it is possible that Islam will succeed in becoming the majority religion in Europe before collapsing.
I am not a specialist of Islam. Hence, I do not know what to think of this analysis. Perhaps it can be argued that Islam is in agony, and that this is precisely the reason why Muslims reacted so sensitively to twelve, mostly inoffensive, Danish cartoons earlier this year and why they respond in a fury beyond all reason to the words of a 14th century Byzantine Emperor quoted last week by Pope Benedict XVI. The Pope emphasized that he did not approve of the quote, but the reactions of Muslims to the Emperors words Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, only lends credibility to what the Emperor said.
If a person is incapable of tolerating criticism, including mild criticism, and especially if he perceives criticism where there is none, this is often a sign of this persons deep psychological insecurity. Rude aggression and wild rage, too, are usually not the normal behaviour of a self-confident person, but rather of someone who knows that he will lose an argument unless he can bully others into silence.
Last Sunday, Catholics going to Holy Mass in Londons Westminster Cathedral were confronted by Christophobic Muslims, carrying hate posters such as Pope go to hell, Benedict watch your back, May Allah curse the Pope, Jesus is the slave of Allah, Islam will conquer Rome, and the like. An English blogger has some photos here. What must one make of these Muslim protestors? Do they look like self-assured people?
It looks as if Muslims cannot cope with an open society and the modern globalized world. Should we interpret their aggression the result of their inability to cope with the world as a token of strenght, or rather as a sign of inherent weakness a sign, as Dr Elst says, that the decline of Islam has visibly begun?
Last weekend a 24-year old Moroccan woman was assaulted in Antwerp by a group of male Moroccan youths. They began by reproaching her for not wearing a headscarf. When she answered back, they beat her up. When the police intervened to protect the woman the officers were attacked by about thirty youths hurling stones. Fortunately, the officers were able to relief the brave woman and escort her to hospital. She has meanwhile been discharged from hospital, though one dreads to think what may await her when she returns to her own community.
We have no figures, but we notice that there are more and more incidents of verbal abuse towards Muslim women by male immigrants who cannot stomach that they do not wear the veil, says Sven Lommaert of the Antwerp police, in one of todays papers: Often the abuse is limited to insults, but sometimes the women are attacked.
However, Dominique Reyniers, the spokeswoman of the Antwerp judiciary said: If violence is used a complaint is sometimes lodged. Verbal abuse, however, is obviously not a crime. Hence, we cannot say that there is a rise in this kind of incidents. Ms Reyniers is saying that intimidating and bullying people is not a crime, unless one beats them up. If Dr Elst is right, and the intimidation of adversaries by the islamists is a proof of Islams inherent weakness, the refusal of the West to stand up to the bullies and to defend and protect their victims is proof of an even greater weakness.
I am inclined to suspect that the intolerance of radical Muslims, even if directed against the enemy in the West, such as Danish cartoonists and the Pope, is primarily intended to intimidate and terrorize people who grew up in Muslim societies and families, in order to prevent their apostasy. It is intended to show the latter that they need not hope for any support from the West, i.e. from authorities such as those represented by Ms Reyniers.
Perhaps, as Dr Elst fears, Islam in its stage of decline might, by the mid-21st century, succeed in conquering Europe and becoming the old continents dominant religion. In this knowledge one slogan of last Sundays Islamic hatemongerers in London may be more than just hate speech: Islam will conquer Rome may be prophetic. Here, however, we ourselves are to blame, because Islamists will not find it difficult to conquer Europe. Christianity in Western Europe has virtually ceased to exist. The spirit of secular relativism that originated from the French Enlightenment has persuaded Europe (including Europes churches) to commit a protracted, two centuries long suicide, the symptoms of which were visible in Communism, National-Socialism and moral relativism in general.
Man is a religious being and needs religious faith. If European Christianity had still been healthy today it would have proselytized, it would have reached out with missionary zeal to the millions of Muslims who migrated to Western Europe since the 1970s, it would have offered them Christ. Instead, its churches became bastions of religious relativism. Europe offered the newcomers only cultural decadence, from which decent people want to shield their children, and spiritual emptiness, which one can only despise.
The Europeans, who lost the missionary zeal to reach out to the immigrants, also lacked the zeal to pass on their own civilization to their offspring. Worse still, they lacked the zeal to have offspring. Since demographics is the mother of all politics, it is, barring a miracle, certain that Islam will become the old continents dominant religion.
Unless Europe rediscovers its will to survive and it may already be too late (though as a Christian I do not exclude miracles) soon furious Islamists may be holding sway over Europe in much the same way as the Taliban did over Afghanistan, removing all visible remnants of pre-Islamic culture. The Cathedrals of Europe may share the fate of the Buddhas of Bamiyan. Christian works of art may be destroyed. Surely, a faith that forbids the depiction of human figures will be offended by the Christian art of medieval Europe and the nudes of the Renaissance. Perhaps it is wise to seriously consider salvaging as many European cultural treasures as one already can, before it is too late, and bringing them to safety elsewhere.
Incidentally, end-of-the-world sects often redouble efforts a prosletyzing after their prophecy fails. Another way to deal with doubt in one's faith is to become adamant to an extreme denying any possible alternative or even a discussion thereof. Belien seems to have the same general theme to this essay.
In extreme instances the doubter places his life on the line by becoming a suicide/homicide bomber. There is no doubt after death!
I already read this hours ago I think on FR.
Day late and a dollar short?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1705434/posts
Chicks wearing army-surplus tents is SEXY~~~!
Men should pursue shrieking boys..!
So, this means EUROPE is almost dead, and Islam is near the point where they have finally conquered it. France -as usual- surrendered without a shot being fired. It's a cute article, but it ignores the trail of blood both before and after.
Bears repeating.
Somewhat off topic too, but still relevant, imho - Muslim women living and being exposed to a Western society for the first time and experiencing real respect and status; in some instances, for the first time in their lives, are realizing, en masse, that there is a "better" way to live.
Why live as a hostage to their husbands and male family members? If they have the opportunity to meet and see how Western men hold women, in general, in esteem (comparably speaking), it serves as a great dichotemy which they can't help but notice. These women aren't living in a vacuum anymore, and are having their eyes opened to possibilities. That is a very good thing.
No, Islam is resurgent. It is on the move, confident and unafraid. Muslims feel history is with them. It is a very dangerous situation which demands leadership that is almost totally lacking in the West.
And John Kerry, and the Democrats, want us to become more like Europe.
It already IS the majority religion in France. 25% of the population is muslim. Assume half of them are religious. That's 12.5% of the population. Only about 5% of the "Christian" population of France actually goes to Church.
It looks as if Muslims cannot cope with an open society and the modern globalized world. Should we interpret their aggression the result of their inability to cope with the world as a token of strenght, or rather as a sign of inherent weakness a sign, as Dr Elst says, that the decline of Islam has visibly begun?
How should one interpret a society that allows such barbarians and thugs to wander around jumping up and down issuing such death threats? Is this collective primal scream therapy? Theater of the absurd snuff films? National geographic anthropology exhibit? Neo-primitivist chic? Have people become so jaded that threats to commit murder and anti-Christian/anti-Western genocide seem routine now in the streets of London and Paris?
Or has the moral relativism and self-loathing of Western liberals and secular humanists run full circle?
It will be interesting to see how long civilization as a mutual suicide pact lasts.
The West has shoved Christ out of the center, only to find the devil more than willing to step in.
Something a little different from the hedonistic utopia and liberal social engineering fantasies.
No one talked about Islamofascism when depopulation was being preached to the educated classes in the West in the 1960s and 1970s.
Whoops!
btt
Europe doesn't care if it becomes Islamic, so long as the Muslims get rid of the Joooos for them. To Europeans, Sharia law is a price worth paying to get a Judenrein Europe.
Even in the worst case scenario, that decadent Europe will be totally overrun by the Muslims (and it seems conceivable), I don't see a viable society with them. They'll be too busy killing each other to tend to government, social services, etc. Basically Europe would just revert to the Dark Ages, as it did after the fall of Rome.
Bin Laden is truly living in a fantasy world. He keeps hoping the Islamic world will somehow restore all the former glory of 8th century Baghdad. Even that was a myth. The corruption, cruelty, & perversion there was rife.
Islam thrived among small, self-contained tribes. There is no unity among them.
Geez, you could be talking about any American liberal here!
You are right. Somehow, I can't see them coming up with the next generation of BMWs, or a new Airbus.
Without the Europeans to live off of, they do not have an economically viable way of living in Europe. The ones there are completely removed even from subsistence farming and small-time trading.
The Christian and Catholic part of Europe is dying, however, Eastern Europe is alive and well. I was in Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary, Austria and Slovakia this summer. Many Catholics -- especially in Poland!
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