To: John Jorsett
More money for less work. I believe that has been the union way for some time. Just ask all the steel workers, oh yeah, I forgot, there aren't any.
2 posted on
09/22/2006 12:41:00 PM PDT by
tigtog
To: John Jorsett
"Paycheck protection legislation has a clear negative effect on public sector union contributions to candidates for state legislative offices"
I wonder what effect it has on private sector union contributions.
3 posted on
09/22/2006 12:42:13 PM PDT by
Roccus
(Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. [Stolen from FReeper Stallone])
To: John Jorsett
Any union that does business with state, local or federal governments, police or fire, teachers, etc. should be prohibited by law from engaging in political activities, donations, or endorsements. And that's my opinion.
6 posted on
09/22/2006 12:44:37 PM PDT by
AbeKrieger
(Liberals are the Mongol hordes destroying America from within.)
To: John Jorsett
As a former union member myself I can tell you what my biggest problems with unions are.
First would be union involvement in politics. Unions need to mind their own business and stop taking money from members to support politicians the members may not support.
Second is scale based pay. I think people should be paid based on merit. There's nothing more irritating that struggling with a project because the guy watching you struggle "doesn't get paid for THAT job".
7 posted on
09/22/2006 12:47:09 PM PDT by
cripplecreek
(If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
To: John Jorsett
They also get a leadership that pursues its own priorities outside of negotiating employment conditions, priorities which may or may not reflect union members wishes. Anyone remember the California Grocery Store strike? Union leaders, who make $300,000+ a year, had these people almost destitute (while the leadership didn't miss a single paycheck), and ended up with a contract that was worse than the one originally proposed by Management.
Yeah, I want these guys on my side.
8 posted on
09/22/2006 12:47:52 PM PDT by
freedumb2003
(Insultification is the polar opposite of Niceosity)
To: John Jorsett
Doesn't matter what they want.
Doesn't matter if they got most of the mafia out of their unions.
What matters is they seem to be paid way out of line for compared to what nonunion folks do in the private sector and they in the end close down the companies they got the big contracts from and end all the jobs because the company can't compete.
The last refuge of these scoundrels seems to be government connected jobs where there seems to be the endless ability to tax people more and more to compensate people at 200% of private sector value.
IMO it needs to stop.
A nice law that no government employee job should exceed the average wage and benefits of what is found in the private sector.
Probably would pay back the national debt in 7 years with that one.
9 posted on
09/22/2006 12:49:56 PM PDT by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: John Jorsett
Unions should not spend any money on candidates or political parties.
I believe it is perfectly reasonable for unions to endorse individual candidates based on their positions and voting record.
10 posted on
09/22/2006 12:53:26 PM PDT by
toast
To: John Jorsett
What union memebers want? Well, I want the security to know I won't get fired for turnin in a legitamate safety violation. I want the security I won't lose my job because the bosses dumbass brother-in-law needs a job and can't get one because he's a dumbass. I want the security to say no to mowing the bosses lawn, building him a deck or watching his pets when he's on vacation with the idea I won't lose my job. Those are the ones that get promoted to supervision and that's fine with me. I know I'm in the minority here and I will get flamed but there are two sides to every coin. But I know YOU won't see it.
11 posted on
09/22/2006 12:57:39 PM PDT by
BipolarBob
(I get homesick when I look up in the skies and see my home planet.)
To: John Jorsett
Paycheck protection legislation has a clear negative effect on public sector union contributions to candidates for state legislative offices. These laws reduce union campaign donations by approximately 50 percent. The odds of random chance explaining these results are less than one percent. That's why unions have fought these laws tooth and nail.
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