Posted on 09/24/2006 7:06:13 AM PDT by John Carey
Hamid Mir, a Pakistani, is the only journalist to have interviewed Osama bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al Zawahiri, since 9/11.
On the fifth anniversary of the attacks, Mr. Mir was in Afghanistan again, this time to interview Abu Dawood, the new al Qaida field commander there.
Final preparations have been made for an "American Hiroshima," Mr. Dawood told him, Mr. Mir said in an interview with Al Arabiya television last week. The attack or attacks will be led by Adnan El Shukrijumah, Mr. Mir said.
Mr. El Shukrijumah was born in Saudi Arabia in 1975, but grew up in Brooklyn. He was a friend of 9/11 hijack leader Mohammed Atta, and is both a trained nuclear technician and a pilot. The FBI is offering a reward of up to $5 million for his capture.
When Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the former al Qaida operations chief who planned the 9/11 attacks was captured in 2003, he reportedly told his interrogators that Mr. El Shukrijumah would be in charge of the next major attack on America.
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No, sadly, I don't think it would. 50% of Americans would point their fingers at the Bush Administration and ask for their ouster. A percentage of that percentage would actually believe that 'Bush did it'. We are not the same Nation with the same resolve of 50 years ago. More heroism is going to be required of fewer people.
I think the enemy is perfectly aware of the divide in the country. Chavez showed that at the UN. They will hit when they know they can splinter us even more. When is that? I don't know.
A_R
Your second paragraph was very insightful in a very articulate reply!!! Bravo! Encore!
I was in grade school for duck and cover, remember it well. Because of the air force base, the helium plant, and proximity to Pantex where nukes are assembled, Amarillo was in the Top Ten of that particular Hit Parade. We believed it and lived it.
As you say, a pin prick nuke would change our world view... but would it change how we look at the internal threat, ie, radicalized home growns and border security? That our response is up for debate is an answer of sorts itself.
In order to be effective, deterrence requires warning. We need to let the Muslim world know that we are going to hold them COLLECTIVELY responsible for any "American Hiroshima"--both those who did the deed and those whose tacit sympathy and support allowed the actual perpetrators to shelter in their midst.
Bush needs to give a speech articulating the "Bush doctrine." "In the event of a nuclear attack by Muslim terrorists on American soil, we will immediately retaliate by vaporizing . . . " naming about 5-10 of the largest/ most significant Muslim cities--Mecca, Medina, Tehran, Qom, etc.
Give them a real incentive to stop Al Qaeda.
The Israelis should do this exact same thing.
Frankly, I think the world would be a much safer place today if we had nuked Mecca the morning of 9/11. Islam would have largely collapsed as an organized religion by now, and we wouldn't be dealing with all this bullshit.
What a humiliating embarrassment he must be causing you... awful!!!
Our politicians will have the blood of Americans on their hands they can't wash off.
I agree with you %100 However I doubt they would care . Most are cold blooded , self serving , greedy , corrupt power hungry morons. They have no sense of America nor do they care what really happens to it. The Democrats in particular hate Bush and want power more then they want America to survive and it's peopl eto be safe . Thats a fact I will argue with any Lib anytime , any place.
I concur. Ain't gonna happen though.
Answer; Washington D.C.... Attack Washington D.C...
The first cleanup starts in your own kitchen..
The 2nd amendment was not made to insure target practice or hunting..
I agree with Victor Hanson that you must ,BEFORE HAND, warn the sponsors of terror that THEY will be held accountable if anything happens. Be specific and talk in terms of total devestation . The leaders dont want to die , they send the unwashed idiots to die. Fro example , tell Iran if another 9/11 happens they will be one on the list of backers , regardless of what they claim . Then it's on them to reel in the maniacs of terror or die .It's the only way to go .
And America sleeps on, unrecognizant of the fact that there are the better part of a billion people out there who hate our guts and want us to die -- and I mean REALLY die, as in forever. In Shitholistan, Imam Dirkadirka kills women and kids, blows up priceless works of art, and burns the Pope in effigy; meanwhile, in the good old U.S. of A, it's hey, another starlet got fake boobs! Those among us who do get excited over the jihad are universally dismissed as talk-radio junkies, conspiracy nutters, and Klansmen; hate is not a family value, after all, and war is not the answer; if only we sat down with the Muslims and discussed our differences we could live in peace. Kum bah yah, muhlorrrrd, kum-bah-yah...
Ah, sweet slumber. But will we ever wake up?
I'm not sure. I think we'll continue in our sleep until the bastards REALLY hit us. Until they bring the war to our neighborhoods and schools and shopping centers, killing us in huge numbers and disrupting our way of life, I think we'll just dream on. Eventually they'll turn smallpox loose on us or spread radioactive dust on the freeways or blow up a You-Know-What in a big city or three. That'll get us off the couch.
At that point, however, it may be too late for us to wake up.
The problem is not that we are stupid. Even an animal knows enough to fight back when a predator attacks. The obvious, sensible, and moral thing to do when someone tries to kill you is to kill him before he succeeds. When a group of people who live in countries where a particular religous or political system holds power join forces to try to kill you, the obvious, sensible, and moral thing to do is to make war on them until their religious or political system is dead and they are no longer capable of harming you. War need not be a dreary, dragged our Vietnam-like nightmare. There's nothing particularly complicated about making war. You kill the enemy, destroy his ability to make war, co-opt his culture and religion, set up a puppet state in his homeland, indoctrinate his children, and keep your boot on his face until those children are old enough to take over. Then you station a garrison in each country and leave.
If the American nation were operating according to this common-sense policy, the War on Terror -- whatever that is -- would have been over by now: no more civilians getting killed by accident by our troops, no more Gitmo, no more ethnic cleansing, no more Sunni vs Shiite. If we'd reacted to September 11 like sane, awake, aware people, on September 12 we would have been at war -- REAL war. We would have cranked up the airplane, tank, and bullet factories, instituted gas rationing, sold war bonds, raised a huge army, invaded Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and the small fry, crushed all resistance as quickly and brutally as necessary, and installed military governments in each for fifty years.
It worked in Germany. It worked in Japan. Perhaps we should be asking ourselves "What would FDR do?"
But we don't. We didn't wake up on September 11, 2001 and decide as a nation to do what had to be done. Instead, we have allowed ourselves to be kept asleep -- by the political and media systems by which public opinion is manipulated.
This is no conspiracy theory; there is no big room where evil, cackling billionaires, politicians, and media moguls gather to hatch nefarious plans. Big shots in politics, business, and the media are as a whole no more "evil" than any other group of people. The people at the top levels of government and media do not all have memberships in some cabal of criminal conspirators; they simply share the same goal: to maintain the status quo. They are simply doing what we all do -- acting in their best interests. They have nothing to gain from a clash of civilizations (there's no money in a real world war); their best interests lie in keeping the public fat, sated, and entertained, thus preserving the system that gives them money and power.
Working separately towards the same ends, these government, big biz, and media elites act as if they were a single conspiracy -- call them the Bread and Circuses gang -- manipulating information, opinions, and money as necessary so that food and gas stay cheap and we remain distracted from ugly, scary, and dull issues of war and peace. Idiotic sports games, moronic celebrity "news", pornography, and other brain-dead "entertainment" designed to appeal to the basic physical drives are their method of control for the citizens of too-tired-to-care America. As long as there's food on the shelves, gas in the pumps, beer in the fridge, and sports on TV, the average American doesn't give a tinker's damn about anything outside of his own day-to-day life. After a hard day's work at his soul-crushing job, the typical Joe Sixpack is too numb to care abour Imam Dirkadirka from Shitholistan. Like giant infants, we are kept in a state of childhood, recognizing as important only pleasure and pain.
Violence itself won't wake us up, even on a large scale. More people died on September 11, 2001 than on December 7, 1941, yet by the nxt day we were being urged to live our lives as usual. This will continue to be the policy of the powers that be no matter how many of us they kill. Even if the Muzis were to blow up New York, the politicians in Washington (both parties) will desperately hand-job us along, grimly vowing to "bring these terrorists to justice" in exchange for our going to work, paying our bills, downloading porn, and of course showing "respect for Islam, which is, after all, a religion of peace." The almighty news media will chime in, cameras rolling as the Usual Suspects (CAIR, ANSWER, the French) march for "peace" over the dead bodies of our own people. And the sluts and studs of the fim, music, TV, and radio empires will bravely speak out against "racial profiling" and "torture camps" as if they knew what the hell they were talking about. No, even if another skyscraper full of moms and dads and brothers and sisters goes down in flames there will be no mass uprising of the American people a la Pearl Harbor; instead, we will be urged to emulate the gentle Jesus of Scripture and continue turning our cheeks to the enemy. (The angry, whip-cracking Jesus that drove the moneychangers out of the Temple will not be mentioned.) Unless the attack makes the price of gas go up, kills satellite TV, cuts off the electricity, or causes sports to be canceled, Americans outside of the blast zone will keep their asses on the couch no matter what happens. And any of us who dare to cry out for the conquest and destruction of our enemies will be branded as haters, racists, and jingoists, just as we are today.
No, I think the Muzis will have to hit us hard, several times, over and over, before we get the wake-up call. I think it will require death and destruction on a massive scale -- a scale large enough to interrupt TV, sports, cheap gas, and regular power -- to make us "wake up". Three dollar gas or football games being interrupted for boring Presidential speeches aren't going to cut it. In other words, I don't think the people of America will respond to the Muzi menauce until we're in a REAL war. I think that we'll finally get off the couch only when the carnage and damage reaches the point where the majority of us are suffering -- REALLY SUFFERING, as in death, radiation, economic collapse, lost relatives, and infrastructure destruction -- as a result of the Muzis and their jihad. Three dollar gas? Try FIFTY DOLLAR gas -- or no gas available at any price. Humiliating airport patdowns? How about NO AIR TRAVEL without government permit! Lousy cellular coverage? Imagine NO WIRELESS PHONE SERVICE without federal permission! Police roadbocks to check for drunk drivers? Picture your town under curfew from 7:00 p.m. to 7:00 am, said curfew enforced by National Guardsmen in Humvees! That's what a REAL war would be like.
At that point, however, the level of confidence in the Federal government would be so low that serious social disruption will be possible. We'll be "awake" -- but in the chaos of radiation, rioting, burning mosques, food shortages, wrecked cities, undrinkable water, and disrupton of the military and civilian chain of command, I wonder if we'll be in any position to do anything positive to save our civilization. If that ever happens, all bets are off.
I'm not proposing any solutions to this problem. Voting won't help. Both parties are owned by the bread-and-circuses gang, so it's more of the same no matter who wins. Writing letters to the editor won't help. The guys at the top don't give a damn what you think, and, except for The New York Times and The Washington Post the papers don't get read anymore anyway. Marching around with signs is pointless. The anti-war losers can put ten times as many people on the streets as we patriots can. We middle-class types have to work for a living. The ingrates are in general younger, cuter, and funnier than we are, making them better for TV.
And of course posting rants on the Internet is a complete waste of time.
So I'll simply end by repeating my point: The real war hasn't even begun yet. Nothing will happen until the suffering of war reaches into the homes of the typical American. If that never happens, great. If it does, then plan now so as to be able to protect yourself, your family, and your property when everything goes to hell..
God forbid, of course.
The only way to get the buy-in of dems is for them to have the white house and at least the house or the senate. The conservatives will support the right thing no matter what, the left will only support it if they are in power. Sad but true.
No, I am not advocating voting them in. It would be a big disaster. Pelosi would make the word "Christian" hate speech and cuddle up to any moo that had an opinion.
To prepare them for torture if captured, American pilots and special forces soldiers undergo harsher treatment in SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape) training than the CIA currently employs against al Qaida terrorists.
This is true. I think it is time to send the JAGs to SERE school. Starting with Lindsey Graham.
We were not far from a major B-52 base. The airplanes were always making contrail circles in the sky, dozens of them. I pictured all of them suddenly breaking off the circles and heading north, and that was when I would head for the bunker myself.
Well done my friend. I agree with you top to bottom . Sadly whay you say is true. It's scary for me . I live in NJ but can see the Empire State Building from where I'm sitting right now.
Yep. let the Muzzies stop monday night football or blow up HBO and we'll go into full out war.Anything short of that and we'll stay asleep.
Thank you for speaking the truth, although, imo, partially.
I say partially because until the enemy of America is fingered and dealt with, and the national, critical issues (third world illegal immigration and multiculturalism being two of those issues) facing America and the Western World are addressed , America and Americans will continue to be in mortal danger.
It is fatal to make a prediction or be appreciated in one's own times, and I'm not gonna make one.
If this happens, I pray to God that our Government will allow me to fight. At 51, I can shoot as good as these young snots who have never seen a trigger.
I remember seeing the tails of parked Buffs at the Amarillo base. The base was closed by the time of Gulf War I, but I am very well acquainted with the pilot who was awarded a medal for the ack-ack holes in his B-52 sustained during the first raid over Baghdad.
>>the people that they swore to protect and defend will tar and feather them in the streets of a smoldering America.
>More likely we'll turn on each other.
I take a bow to you. You've spoken holy words.
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